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New Tolkien epic to be released in April
CBC Arts ^ | March 26, 2007

Posted on 03/26/2007 3:21:35 PM PDT by Caleb1411

An unfinished book by J.R.R. Tolkien that was completed by his son will be published April 17 in Canada, New Zealand, the U.S. and the U.K.

Christopher Tolkien, son of the man who wrote the Lord of the Rings trilogy, has completed The Children of Hurin, a book his father started in 1918 and later abandoned.

J.R.R. Tolkien, shown in a 1967 photo, left notes and an outline for The Children of Hurin, a novel finished by his son and to be published in April. (Associated Press) Publisher HarperCollins is not releasing details of the book, but describes it as "an epic story of adventure, tragedy, fellowship and heroism."

The younger Tolkien previously drafted The Silmarillion and History of Middle Earth from drafts of his father's work.

The Children of Hurin will be illustrated by artist Alan Lee, who won an Oscar for art direction on Peter Jackson's film The Return of the King.

Lee has provided 25 pencil sketches and eight paintings for the book.

Parts of the text of The Children of Hurin, which takes place in Middle Earth before the events of Lord of the Rings, have appeared in History of Middle Earth.

Tolkien said he has worked on the book for 30 years based on unfinished pieces and outlines done by his father.

The Lord of the Rings trilogy has sold more than 50 million copies worldwide.


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KEYWORDS: lordoftherings; tolkien
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1 posted on 03/26/2007 3:21:37 PM PDT by Caleb1411
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To: BibChr; rhema

Ping


2 posted on 03/26/2007 3:22:16 PM PDT by Caleb1411 ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own." G. K. C)
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To: Caleb1411

Cool.


3 posted on 03/26/2007 3:23:01 PM PDT by The Blitherer (What the devil is keeping the Yanks? Duncan Hunter for President '08!)
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To: Caleb1411
uh-oh. wedgie time!

kidding, i'm a nerd too.

4 posted on 03/26/2007 3:23:47 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: Caleb1411

Excellent. I have the Book of Lost Tales and Unfinished Tales, which have some very good things in them. These are part of the Works of Tolkien that Christopher T. has edited. And I think I have all Tolkien's minor works, including the Father Christmas tales.


5 posted on 03/26/2007 3:24:57 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: thefactor
kidding, i'm a nerd too.

I believe the correct term is "geek".

:-)

6 posted on 03/26/2007 3:25:31 PM PDT by The Blitherer (What the devil is keeping the Yanks? Duncan Hunter for President '08!)
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To: Caleb1411
I read the entire Lord of the Ring trilogy just so I would know what was going on when I went to see the flick. I don't know that I could torture myself to read any more.
7 posted on 03/26/2007 3:27:36 PM PDT by StACase
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To: Caleb1411

Oh sweet!


8 posted on 03/26/2007 3:30:27 PM PDT by Hexenhammer
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To: The Blitherer

not sure. i am a star trek:tng guy so i am usually called a nerd. star wars nerd is also heavily used. what do they call lord of the rings enthusiasts? might warrant further investigation.


9 posted on 03/26/2007 3:31:57 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: Caleb1411
The Trilogy kept me up late nights and virtually unable to put it aside. I took it to work with me and 'munched out on it' whenever things got slow.

I have since re-read it two more times and enjoyed it just as much as the first time. I'm hoping something similar will happen with this book and, if so, it will be widely read.

There are some great lessons in character, faith and courage in the J.R.R. Tolkien works that could benefit anyone.

10 posted on 03/26/2007 3:37:08 PM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: thefactor
what do they call lord of the rings enthusiasts? might warrant further investigation.

The term is, "Ringers".

Of which I am all-too-proud to claim!

11 posted on 03/26/2007 3:41:50 PM PDT by Old Sarge (+ /_\)
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To: ecurbh; HairOfTheDog

Hmmm...


12 posted on 03/26/2007 3:43:43 PM PDT by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Old Sarge; thefactor

That's very odd. I usually see the term 'geek' associated with Sci-fi/fantasy fans. Either way, it's a label I proudly wear!


13 posted on 03/26/2007 3:46:10 PM PDT by The Blitherer (What the devil is keeping the Yanks? Duncan Hunter for President '08!)
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To: 2Jedismom; 300winmag; Alkhin; Alouette; ambrose; Anitius Severinus Boethius; artios; athelass; ...

Ring Ping!!

FrodoHobbit Hole Troop support blog.
Anyone wishing to be added to or removed from the Ring-Ping list, please don't hesitate to let me know.

14 posted on 03/26/2007 3:50:20 PM PDT by ecurbh (Giuliani 2008 - http://www.rudygforamerica.com/)
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To: Cicero

I have all those and several other Tolkein books. Please tell me how to understand the wonderful adventures he has in them. I get so lost trying to read through them and get about 100 pages in and then have to go into rehab for two weeks to recover. I have read the trilogy three times and still do not completely understand it.

Tolkein was a master. I wish there were more like him.


15 posted on 03/26/2007 3:51:16 PM PDT by ProudFossil
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To: Old Sarge

Is it Ringers or Rangers?


16 posted on 03/26/2007 3:52:23 PM PDT by ProudFossil
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To: The Blitherer

"Ringer", in the language of the fen (plural of fan), refers to someone who is deep into the lore around the Professor's epic - not just the story itself, which is by and large one of the greatest literary triumphs of the 20th Century - but the methods he used when writing, the languages he created, and the philosophy that molded the Professor's worldview.


17 posted on 03/26/2007 3:55:06 PM PDT by Old Sarge (+ /_\)
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To: ProudFossil

LOL! It's "Ringers"...

The basic premise of the LOTR is simple: Evil must be confronted, and there is no person, great or small, wise or simple, noble or commoner, who does not have something they can contribute to the fight.

We cannot defeat every evil that faces us - but we can work our butts off to deal with the evils we can, now, today, so that someone won't have to face them tomorrow.

And oh, every aspiring writer in the genre (myself included) wishes each night on the evening star for even the least of the professor's gifts.


18 posted on 03/26/2007 4:00:10 PM PDT by Old Sarge (+ /_\)
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To: Caleb1411

WooHoo! I'll have to keep a look out for this one!


19 posted on 03/26/2007 4:00:23 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Caleb1411
Here's an outline of the likely subject matter:

One of the best stories in The Silmarillon, “the children of Hurin” is mainly about Turin and Glaurung. The story also pirouettes around the Fall of Gondolin, the story of Beren and Luthien and is the begining of the end of the gray Kingdom that was protected by the enchanted Girdle of Melian and the Wise rule of Thingol the Gray elf and contains Glimpses of the original Dark Lord- Melkor or Morgoth. Combining elements of Tragedy, heroism and self sacrifice, this is one story that should translate well in to the silver screen! Are you listening, Peter Jackson?

from: http://hariprasads.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/13/

20 posted on 03/26/2007 4:12:30 PM PDT by yatros from flatwater
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To: Caleb1411
The word I heard about it is that it is much darker than the LOTR and much more sexually explicit, including incest.

A slight turnoff to a LOTR fan, but I'll still give it a chance.

21 posted on 03/26/2007 4:26:33 PM PDT by infidel29 (Democrats show "bigfoot patriotism", many claim they've seen it, but there's no evidence to prove it)
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To: capt. norm

I used to "take two weeks in Middle Earth" every yerar. First read it in 1962.


22 posted on 03/26/2007 4:26:39 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: The Blitherer
A geek was a circus sideshow performer, who did weird things like bite the head off a chicken. Ozzy Osbourne is a reformed geek.
23 posted on 03/26/2007 4:28:05 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: ecurbh

Thanks for ping - well, guess that will be a late summer read opportunity. Looking forward to it.

Now for the Hobbit Movie...


24 posted on 03/26/2007 4:28:35 PM PDT by osagebowman
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To: Old Sarge

I have the Lord of the Nazgul, on horseback, tattooed on my arm, above the Ring Inscription, and below the Lidless Eye, wreathed in flame. Guesss that makes me a "Ringer", too.


25 posted on 03/26/2007 4:28:37 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: osagebowman

I second that!! I am glad Christopher is continuing Tolkien's legacy, but I do wish MORE were written about the hobbits. I know Tolkien had begun piecing together a story that took place a generation or two after LOTR - I would have liked to have known if any of Sam's or Pippin's grandchildren were involved.


26 posted on 03/26/2007 4:30:09 PM PDT by Alkhin (star dust contemplating star dust)
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To: yatros from flatwater
I just hope old Chris has some of his pop's talent for spinning a tale. Looks to me like he's milking his dad for all it's worth.

Most of the other subsequent books were pretty much written and just needed editing. This one sounds like it had to be co-written by Christopher.
27 posted on 03/26/2007 4:30:38 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Never underestimate the ability of a Liberal to lie.)
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To: Alkhin

The Professor did actually write an "Epilogue" of sorts, to the Return of the King.

He wrote of the Gamgee family, of which Sam and Rosie "got busy" for a while - and the chapter is set with Sam at the hearth, with the oldest kids curled up on the carpet at his feet, and he's telling them about how Aragorn and Arwen are visitng the North Kingdom, and the gamgees have received a Royal Invitation to go see them.


28 posted on 03/26/2007 4:34:51 PM PDT by Old Sarge (+ /_\)
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To: Old Sarge

Yes, I remember reading that :D - that was a fun chapter. I also know that Pippins only son - Faramir - married Goldilocks.


29 posted on 03/26/2007 4:36:30 PM PDT by Alkhin (star dust contemplating star dust)
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To: Caleb1411

What a wonderful experience to finish that which his father started. I wonder, did he at times 'feel' his father's presence during the exercise? I'll bet he did!


30 posted on 03/26/2007 4:38:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: infidel29

Well, to make a long story short, the incest was not intentional or forethought. Without posting a plot spoiler, let me just say it's a tragic story, already in the Silmarillion - and well worth reading. The Professor thought it was worth telling, as it is easily the longest part of the book.


31 posted on 03/26/2007 4:39:42 PM PDT by Old Sarge (+ /_\)
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To: The Blitherer
I believe the correct term is "geek".

What is the technical difference? Other than geeks being cuter.

32 posted on 03/26/2007 4:40:27 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Sudetenland

Say rather, that Christopher is compelled to get as much of the professor's works out there in print, so as to make the story inviolate.

Christopher also acts as the arbiter of authenticity for his father's writing. He actually did NOT want the Peter Jackson movies to be made; several interested parties helped to convince him otherwise, and we're all better off for the effort.


33 posted on 03/26/2007 4:42:37 PM PDT by Old Sarge (+ /_\)
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To: Old Sarge

I read the Silmarillion once years ago... I'll have to ask my mother if she still has it.


34 posted on 03/26/2007 4:43:25 PM PDT by infidel29 (Democrats show "bigfoot patriotism", many claim they've seen it, but there's no evidence to prove it)
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To: Sudetenland

"Most of the other subsequent books were pretty much written and just needed editing." Editing is the hardest work in writing ... and you haven't grasped the creative essence of 'finishing' someone else's novel if you think it a simple task.


35 posted on 03/26/2007 4:43:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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btt


36 posted on 03/26/2007 4:49:59 PM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus)
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To: Caleb1411

Thought the books were OK, but the movies S-CKED Hobbit balls! A bunch of fops walking and walking and walking and walking and walking...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


37 posted on 03/26/2007 4:51:14 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: Caleb1411
Well...this is very interesting.

I know of a man who wrote a book called "Isildur". It took him many years to complete.
It tells the tale of all the events proceeding from the Creation to the events leading up to Sauron's rise. It is a fascinating book, yet the author, in correspondence with J.R.R. Tolkien, was told that the professor did not approve of other authors "spinning off" from his original work and would not give permission to publish this book. It was therefore self-published by the author only for the enjoyment of family and friends.

Knowing this and Tolkien's disapproval of this sort of thing, I wonder how his son reconciled that fact with his need to embellish and publish some of his father's work.

38 posted on 03/26/2007 5:03:17 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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To: ProudFossil

That's the best kind of book, isn't it? You can read it again and again.

I've actually read The Lord of the Rings out loud twice, once to my wife and once to my kids.

After I discovered TLOTR, shortly after it was published, I went back and read The Hobbit, and then remembered that it had been read aloud to my cousins and me when I was a small boy. I had completely forgotten that, but when I read it again I remembered the riddle passage, which takes place at the bottom of the Goblins' cave on the underground lakeshore, with Gollum, after Frodo accidentally finds the Ring. I don't know how old I was at the time, maybe 4 or 5.


39 posted on 03/26/2007 5:05:28 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: The Blitherer; thefactor
Stop, you're both right!

Gibert: I just wanted to say that I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds. I mean uh, all our lives we've been laughed at and made to feel inferior. And tonight, those bastards, they trashed our house. Why? Cause we're smart? Cause we look different? Well, we're not. I'm a nerd, and uh, I'm pretty proud of it.

Lewis: Hi, Gilbert. I'm a nerd too. I just found that out tonight. We have news for the beautiful people. There's a lot more of us then there are of you. I know there's alumni here tonight. When you went to Adams you might've been called a spazz, or a dork, or a geek. Any of you that have ever felt stepped on, left out, picked on, put down, whether you think you're a nerd or not, why don't you just come down here and join us. Okay? Come on.

Gibert: Just join us cos uh, no-one's gonna really be free until nerd persecution ends.


40 posted on 03/26/2007 5:08:06 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: infidel29
The word I heard about it is that it is much darker than the LOTR and much more sexually explicit, including incest. Tolkien was a professor of linguistics and Old English. He also knew the Scandinavian mythology. I would guess that some of this would be based on mythic materials that Wagner adopted in Der Ring Des Niebelungen. Siegmund and Sieglinde committed incest, and the whole tale revolves around a stolen ring that ends up with the Gotterdammerung--the War of the Gods and the End of the World.

Tolkien made use of this mythology--and other tales of dragons, dwarfs, and so on--but I am sure he would do so in a way that should not offend his readers.

41 posted on 03/26/2007 5:11:41 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: yatros from flatwater

I personally did not think the tale of the Children of Hurin was all that happy myself. In fact, it's a very dark and depressing tale. (You're talking to a diehard fan; Books of Lost Tales, Silmarillion, assorted other histories.)


42 posted on 03/26/2007 6:03:29 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free.)
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To: infidel29

It's not sexualized in a prurient fashion, but Turin's sister is bewitched into amnesia, and runs around without her clothes before being found by Turin and his group. They clothe her, and she winds up marrying Turin. They both die in the end, but so does the dragon.


43 posted on 03/26/2007 6:04:29 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free.)
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To: yatros from flatwater
Are you listening, Peter Jackson?I don't think we need to worry about Peter Jackson. It's the suits at New Line, and whoever gets chosen to film "The Hobbit" (Sam Raimi?!?!?!?!) that need convincing. Apparently billions of dollars in profits still doesn't speak loudly enough.

Jackson is the only director who has proven he can take $300 million, several years worth of work from several thousand people, and turn out three movies that are the best, if imperfect, adaption of Tolkien possible.

44 posted on 03/26/2007 6:10:37 PM PDT by 300winmag (Overkill never fails)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

As in our own history - light and dark contend with each other - and like Hurin's children, the Eldar, and Men we have to choose how we will deal with our own quests.


45 posted on 03/26/2007 6:20:15 PM PDT by yatros from flatwater
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To: thefactor

"not sure. i am a star trek:tng guy so i am usually called a nerd."


Yeah, you're a nerd.


46 posted on 03/26/2007 6:57:35 PM PDT by gate2wire
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To: PzLdr

"I have the Lord of the Nazgul, on horseback, tattooed on my arm, above the Ring Inscription, and below the Lidless Eye, wreathed in flame. Guesss that makes me a "Ringer", too."

Yes.


47 posted on 03/26/2007 6:59:55 PM PDT by gate2wire
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To: Old Sarge

PING!!!
Ms.B


48 posted on 03/26/2007 7:27:04 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (women who behave rarely make history)
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To: MS.BEHAVIN
{{{{{ MISS BEEEE!!! }}}}}

Are you feeling ANY better?

49 posted on 03/26/2007 7:42:53 PM PDT by Old Sarge (+ /_\)
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To: Yo-Yo

Ah, such magnificent dialogue, from a old favorite movie of my youth!


50 posted on 03/26/2007 7:46:26 PM PDT by Old Sarge (+ /_\)
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