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Bestiality flick shocks Cannes
news24 ^ | 22/05/2007 | news24

Posted on 05/22/2007 1:42:02 PM PDT by bahblahbah

Cannes - A semi-documentary about a group of US men who had sex with horses has taken the title as the most shocking movie at the Cannes film festival.

But while Zoo has drawn big, curious crowds at its screenings, the real unsettling quality about the movie is its approach: it depicts the men in a sympathetic light, one that tries to push the viewers to understanding their sexual perversion.

The documentary - in which actors recreate non-explicit scenes under audio interviews with some of the men involved - centres on a true-life incident.

In July 2005, a 45-year-old man died of internal bleeding after being anally penetrated by an Arabian stallion during a bestiality weekend in the US state of Washington.

The victim, a Boeing engineer working on top-secret defence projects named Kenneth Pinyan, suffered a perforated colon.

The ensuing investigation led police - and eventually much of the national media - to the farm where the interaction took place, outing the other members of the group.

Independent filmmaker Robinson Devor shies away from prurient imagery, instead enveloping the story in rich photography that gives it a dreamlike beauty overwhelming the sordidness of the subject matter.

Absence of judgement

"In this film, there were things with much more importance to us than the sex aspect," he told journalists after a screening in the sidebar Directors' Fortnight section.

He said the absence of judgement was a deliberate choice, one reinforced after he watched some of the actual videos the men had taken of their horse sessions - footage that doesn't make it into the film, apart from the barest of glimpses at one point.

"They showed us the videos not to show us pornography, but to show an animal that wanted to be with them," Devor said, though he added that he kept some scepticism about the taped acts.

"We don't know what the conditioning was (for the horses)."

Many reviews have been favourable to the approach taken by Devor and his team.

"They've crafted a subdued, mysterious and intensely beautiful film that presents bestiality not for the purpose of titillation?but as a way of investigating the subjective nature of morality," the movie trade magazine Variety wrote.

'Mammal to mammal love'

The men heard in the film are remarkably honest about their motivations. One of them argues "mammal to mammal" love should not be seen as wrong.

Another firmly rejects the tag "bad person" his employer lays upon him before he is sacked. They all say the horses were willing participants.

Indeed, the only judgement seemingly expressed in the documentary is not on the matter in the stable at all. It is in fleeting radio references to US President George W Bush's "war on terror" and the presumed complicity-for-profit of big companies such as Boeing.

Even the cast ended up feeling compassion for the men depicted in Zoo.

John Paulsen, who played Pinyan, said he believed the engineer had been on a self-destructive streak linked to his defence work, a divorce and injuries from a motorcycle accident.

"Here's a man whose greatest loves in his life were so secret, so private," and who abruptly had "these great secrets in his life made so public by dying in such a public and humiliating way," he said.

But Paulsen himself acknowledged the black humour surrounding the incident, and now the film, saying that "in a way, it's a classic Western, except here it's the horse riding the man."

He added with a smile: "I call this role my 15 inches of fame."


TOPICS: Hobbies; Pets/Animals; TV/Movies; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: beastiality; bestialityagenda; bushderangedsyndrom; diversity; diversityplus; hilf; isnthatspecial; moralabsolutes; naturalselection; sexualorientation; suicidebyhorse
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Are liberals even capable of keeping politics out of their beastiality advertisements?
1 posted on 05/22/2007 1:42:03 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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Didn’t this thing play at Sundance as well and couldn’t fine any buyers there either? Guess he’s checking to see if any European distributors are game.


2 posted on 05/22/2007 1:43:35 PM PDT by Borges
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To: bahblahbah

Liberals enjoy pontificating upon the perverse.


3 posted on 05/22/2007 1:43:51 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: bahblahbah
Absence of judgement

Boy, I'll say!

4 posted on 05/22/2007 1:44:37 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: bahblahbah

Excuse me while I go toss my lunch.


5 posted on 05/22/2007 1:44:59 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: bahblahbah

A prize to the best epitaph for the grave marker for the guy who died.


6 posted on 05/22/2007 1:45:01 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: bahblahbah
Cannes “shocked”? Not possible it seems.

Even with that, all the left does is rationalize sick behavior and then attacks the President for actually DEFENDING them against the islamofascists that would slaughter EVERYONE at the Cannes Film Festival and destroy all the left supposedly holds dear.

The world turned upside down.....

7 posted on 05/22/2007 1:45:09 PM PDT by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just National Socialism without the "twisted cross")
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To: bahblahbah
He added with a smile: "I call this role my 15 inches of fame."

Ah, the film should always be subservient to the PR surrounding it.

8 posted on 05/22/2007 1:45:25 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: bahblahbah

Sick, twisted, disgusting & nasty IMHO ~P~


9 posted on 05/22/2007 1:45:34 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: bahblahbah
A semi-documentary about a group of US men who had sex with horses ...

They damn well better have been girl horses, else that's sick.
10 posted on 05/22/2007 1:46:04 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: bahblahbah
They all say the horses were willing participants.

I guess the horses signed consent forms (end/sarcasm.)

11 posted on 05/22/2007 1:46:32 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: HEY4QDEMS
They damn well better have been girl horses, else that's sick.

Nope, they weren't.

13 posted on 05/22/2007 1:47:55 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: bahblahbah
Bestiality flick shocks Cannes

I'm only shocked that this hasn't been mainstreamed at Cannes
at least a decade earlier.
14 posted on 05/22/2007 1:48:00 PM PDT by VOA
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To: bahblahbah

Brokeback Mounting.


15 posted on 05/22/2007 1:48:08 PM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: bahblahbah
[...] by an Arabian stallion

I'm waiting for CAIR to complain about "stereotyping of Arabs"

16 posted on 05/22/2007 1:48:22 PM PDT by Alouette (It is reminiscent of the world-famous Jewish conspiracy, now extended to also include Jews.)
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To: hophead

“I told you to stop HORSING AROUND!”


17 posted on 05/22/2007 1:49:07 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Borges

So which one wins the Palm d’Or - this one or “Sicko”?


18 posted on 05/22/2007 1:49:14 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("By the simple exercise of our will, we can exert a power for good practically unbounded, etc, etc.")
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To: The Blitherer

Perverts!! LOL


19 posted on 05/22/2007 1:49:34 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: bahblahbah
Q. What did the pony say when it had a sore throat?

A. Sorry, I'm a little hoarse.


20 posted on 05/22/2007 1:49:51 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: bahblahbah

Countdown to thread death in....


21 posted on 05/22/2007 1:50:20 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living insult to islam since 1959.)
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To: Alouette
“Arabian stallion” took an infidel any way he could!
22 posted on 05/22/2007 1:50:31 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: bahblahbah

WILBURRRRR!!!


23 posted on 05/22/2007 1:50:45 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: bahblahbah

Nay means Nay, mister!!!


24 posted on 05/22/2007 1:50:48 PM PDT by Millee (Tagline free since 10/20/06)
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To: bahblahbah

Those that call evil good and good evil....


25 posted on 05/22/2007 1:51:06 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: bahblahbah

It would be an interesting to see which reviewers who gave this movie a positive review also gave “Sicko” a positive review.


26 posted on 05/22/2007 1:51:38 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: VanShuyten
Sick is screening out of competition. With the exception of F 9/11 (the worst film to ever win the award by far) Palm d’Or winners are generally a good bunch of films (Barton Fink, Le Enfant, The Conversation).
27 posted on 05/22/2007 1:51:49 PM PDT by Borges
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To: bahblahbah
a bestiality weekend in the US state of Washington.

Unfortunately, the remaining conservatives in Washington State
are subjected to the beastiality of liberal taxation year round...
28 posted on 05/22/2007 1:52:11 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Alouette
I'm waiting for CAIR to complain about "stereotyping of Arabs"

oh, so there was an arab doing the horse at the same time?

please don't ban me
29 posted on 05/22/2007 1:52:27 PM PDT by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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To: bahblahbah; Borges
Puts me in mind of this classic:


30 posted on 05/22/2007 1:53:46 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: bahblahbah

the more deranged, perverted, sick, indecent, evil, the more applauded by the critics. notice how the good films never get their approval. it has to be some sick device spring from the darkest corners of the human soul or they don’t bother.


31 posted on 05/22/2007 1:53:48 PM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: bahblahbah

More than met the eye??
32 posted on 05/22/2007 1:53:48 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will. - Ben Stein)
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To: Millee
Nay means Nay, mister!!!

Mister Ed?
33 posted on 05/22/2007 1:53:53 PM PDT by Borges
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John Paulsen, who played Pinyan, said he believed the engineer had been on a self-destructive streak linked to his defence work

Going so far as to try and blame "the military-industrial complex" for this guy's mental illness.

34 posted on 05/22/2007 1:54:18 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: bahblahbah

Has anyone really seen what a horse’s (you know what) looks like - how big it is? I have and I have to wonder who in their right mind would let a horse “penetrate” anything on their body? That’s just sick.

I can’t see where there would be anything “beautiful” about this kind of stuff... more like EVIL.


35 posted on 05/22/2007 1:54:46 PM PDT by redlocks322
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To: JRios1968

Beat me by 5 seconds!


36 posted on 05/22/2007 1:55:41 PM PDT by Borges
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a Boeing engineer working on top-secret defence projects named Kenneth Pinyan. . . .

How many defense projects do we have named Kenneth Pinyan?

37 posted on 05/22/2007 1:56:20 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Oh, Pinyan!)
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Which defense projects aren't named Kenneth Pinyan? /sarc
38 posted on 05/22/2007 1:58:23 PM PDT by Borges
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To: dawn53

“They all say the horses were willing participants.”

Well duh — stallions will breed a block of wood! That’s how they get the semen for artificial insemination.

Love? I don’t think so!


39 posted on 05/22/2007 1:58:30 PM PDT by Thywillnotmine ((334 days and counting))
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To: Charles Henrickson

Dunno. Concrete-penetrating bunker-busters?


40 posted on 05/22/2007 1:59:02 PM PDT by SolidWood (Save America: Thompson/Hunter 2008)
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To: bahblahbah
From Answers.com:

Prosecutors later determined that the horse, an Arabian stallion named "Bullseye"....


Aptly named, methinks.
41 posted on 05/22/2007 2:02:04 PM PDT by GOPmember
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To: Borges
I think there was one more defense project Kenneth Pinyan should have been working on.
42 posted on 05/22/2007 2:02:55 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Oh, Pinyan!)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

The dead man died having a male horse perform anal sodomy on him.

Slippery slope.

Don’t question their morals. < /s >


43 posted on 05/22/2007 2:05:01 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: bahblahbah

Does PETA know about this?


44 posted on 05/22/2007 2:05:45 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Too blessed to be stressed.)
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I hate badly written articles that leave out all the important info... did Kenneth’s insurance policy pay out?


45 posted on 05/22/2007 2:06:54 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: bahblahbah
The men heard in the film are remarkably honest about their motivations. One of them argues "mammal to mammal" love should not be seen as wrong.

Another firmly rejects the tag "bad person" his employer lays upon him before he is sacked. They all say the horses were willing participants.

They've seen the blueprint for the "normalization" of homosexuality and they know their mission.

46 posted on 05/22/2007 2:07:19 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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Pardon for the second post, but regarding this “mammal to mammal” hooey.....isn’t one of the theories of the transferance of the HIV virus to humans thought to be because of sexual contact with monkeys?


47 posted on 05/22/2007 2:07:49 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Too blessed to be stressed.)
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To: bahblahbah

Thanks for this penetrating analysis.


48 posted on 05/22/2007 2:08:22 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Oh, Pinyan!)
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According to anonymous sources on forums where such material was distributed, he was considered very experienced at receiving anal sex from stallions, and had recognized the potential risk posed by such actions.

I'm not so sure. I bet he didn't use a condom.

49 posted on 05/22/2007 2:09:48 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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He was a victim.


50 posted on 05/22/2007 2:10:11 PM PDT by llevrok (Illegal Immigration? We are a nation of laws - not scofflaws.)
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