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The Girl With the 85-lb Bow
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Posted on 10/07/2007 9:25:17 AM PDT by damondonion

The girl with the 85-lb bow:



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1 posted on 10/07/2007 9:25:21 AM PDT by damondonion
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To: damondonion

She can go fishing with me.


2 posted on 10/07/2007 9:31:12 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: damondonion

I can see only two things that might get in her way


3 posted on 10/07/2007 9:32:13 AM PDT by sure_fine (• " not one to over kill the thought process " •)
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4 posted on 10/07/2007 9:32:24 AM PDT by jdm
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To: damondonion
I was thinking this would be something about Paris Hilton wearing a bow to counter balance the offset tilt her head seems to always have when a camera is around.

Oh, its not because of the camera? Her head is always twisted and tilted to the side?

5 posted on 10/07/2007 9:33:09 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: jdm

She can pull an 85 lb bow.... she’d hit your teeth into last Wednesday....


6 posted on 10/07/2007 9:33:35 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: jdm

You got to get by her Bow first.


7 posted on 10/07/2007 9:34:12 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: damondonion

I dig tomboys with painted toenails.


8 posted on 10/07/2007 9:34:44 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: damondonion

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9 posted on 10/07/2007 9:35:55 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: damondonion

Teressa Hagerman was born in Texas and raised in Southwest Missouri. She graduated from Missouri Southern State University with a BS degree in psychology, with minors in sociology, math, political science, and history. She also played basketball, softball, and rugby while in college.

Teressa began hunting at the age of 24 in South Africa. A year later, she started marketing for Out of Africa Adventurous Safari’s and became a Professional Hunter in South Africa. While working for Out of Africa she honed her hunting skills in the bush, guiding.

Teressa is a life member of Safari Club International, and serves on the board of directors for the Kansas City SCI chapter. She is also a member of the NRA, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, National Wild Turkey Federation, and the SCI Sables.

She has lectured on African safari’s in numerous venues including; schools, women’s organizations and safari club meetings.


10 posted on 10/07/2007 9:39:40 AM PDT by randita
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To: damondonion

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11 posted on 10/07/2007 9:44:38 AM PDT by diverteach
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12 posted on 10/07/2007 9:45:16 AM PDT by diverteach
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To: randita

There can’t be more than about 3% of American men who could pull an 85-lb bow easily enough to hit anything with it, if at all.


13 posted on 10/07/2007 9:46:22 AM PDT by damondonion
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To: diverteach

I was glad I was able to assist Teressa in her quest.


14 posted on 10/07/2007 9:47:11 AM PDT by Glennb51
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To: damondonion
I don’t know about that. Those new fangled compound bows are pretty easy to hold steady. The draw weight decreases as you pull back on the string.

Now, an 85# recurve is a different matter. That would be a tough one to shoot.

15 posted on 10/07/2007 9:49:34 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: damondonion

The ancient English military bows were about 120 pounds pull. Shot right through French armor at Agincourt.


16 posted on 10/07/2007 9:53:03 AM PDT by RightWhale (50 years later we're still sitting on the ground)
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To: RightWhale

French armor?

Oxymoron of the day?


17 posted on 10/07/2007 9:59:00 AM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm

The only thing more dangerous than being a French armored knight was being the one who had to string the bow.


18 posted on 10/07/2007 10:00:43 AM PDT by RightWhale (50 years later we're still sitting on the ground)
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To: mamelukesabre
I don’t know about that. Those new fangled compound bows are pretty easy to hold steady. The draw weight decreases as you pull back on the string.

There's still that little thing about the 85 lbs at mid draw. Like I say, there's probably about 3% of American men who'd get past that point.

19 posted on 10/07/2007 10:01:31 AM PDT by damondonion
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To: RightWhale

At Agincourt the frogs charged into a funnel-shaped field and then trampled themselves at the narrow part of the funnel. Some historians claim that even if no English had been present and the frogs had only been required to plant their lances in straw targets, half of them would have still died.


20 posted on 10/07/2007 10:03:09 AM PDT by damondonion
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To: osagebowman; g'nad; Sam Cree; Ramius
Check this babe!!
I tried to pull back my Daddy's hunting bow once, and I thought I'd herniate myself!
21 posted on 10/07/2007 10:03:45 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: RightWhale

I love archery!


22 posted on 10/07/2007 10:04:05 AM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: damondonion

Let them practice for a few days. Most men and many women have plenty of strength for that if they work up to it.


23 posted on 10/07/2007 10:04:49 AM PDT by RightWhale (50 years later we're still sitting on the ground)
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To: damondonion
For us in the Peanut Gallery -— you mean it weighs 85 lbs.? It does not look that heavy. We had an archery class in high school but the bows were nothing like that. They were like cowboy & Indians bows and we wore an armguard on our arms to protect from getting bruised by the string.
24 posted on 10/07/2007 10:05:01 AM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: damondonion
That’s why I am a guns slinger. 1.5 pound trigger pull. Easier on the beer opening finger.
25 posted on 10/07/2007 10:05:58 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (SF- the $hitty by the Bay.)
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To: damondonion
“...there’s probably about 3% of American men...”

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If so then people are alot wimpier than I would have ever imagined. Somehow I think your estimate might be a bit low. I don’t really believe I’m in the top 3% for strength.

26 posted on 10/07/2007 10:11:37 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: A knight without armor
Appearances can be deceiving. I admit my bow is only 60-some pounds but only on a good day can I comfortably separate the string from the frame.
27 posted on 10/07/2007 10:12:39 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: A knight without armor
you mean it weighs 85 lbs.? It does not look that heavy

Uhhh... no.

85 pounds force applied to the string.

28 posted on 10/07/2007 10:17:19 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: damondonion
The Girl With the 85-lb Bow

The stern is not bad, either.

29 posted on 10/07/2007 10:17:54 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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That’s a compound bow. Anyone can pull it. Try a recurve 85 pounder and no way could she pull it.
30 posted on 10/07/2007 10:20:13 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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“That’s a compound bow. Anyone can pull it. Try a recurve 85 pounder and no way could she pull it.”

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

I shoot archery competitively, and of all the archers I know, about 5% shoot more than 80 lbs (none of them are women). Of the 5%, probably 50% of them are shooting too much weight and can’t shoot it well, in addition to almost certainly experiencing joint and rotator cuff problems in the future.

Of the recurve and longbow shooters I know, most shoot 45 lbs for target shooting, and 60 for hunting. The power lifter that I know that shoots a recurve shoots 65 lbs for hunting.

I have that same model bow that she does in 60 lbs. I can bench press 190 lbs, curl 90 lbs, and can just shoot it comfortably. The bow she’s shooting rises rapidly to 85 lbs approximately at mid-draw, and then drops to around 25 lbs, where she holds it to shoot.


31 posted on 10/07/2007 10:32:36 AM PDT by ex-NFO
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To: sure_fine; damondonion

Hopefully, she won’t do what the Amazons did.


32 posted on 10/07/2007 10:38:36 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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Maybe I’m dense but your in your whole post I don’t see where you are proving me wrong. An 85 # compound is as easy to pull as a way lighter regular bow. Right? (not easy but easier) You yourself just said that it is hard for only half the pull then it goes to about 25 pounds. My point exactly. And, statements like, “you don’t know what you are talking about” wont win you any friends. I am American Indian and do know just a little about the bow and arrow.


33 posted on 10/07/2007 10:47:30 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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a) I don’t care if you’re an American Indian

and

b) I was addressing your comment “That’s a compound bow. Anyone can pull it.”


34 posted on 10/07/2007 10:51:41 AM PDT by ex-NFO
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"An 85 # compound is as easy to pull as a way lighter regular bow. Right?"

And 85 pound compound bow is just as hard to pull as an 85 pound recurve. They both take exactly the same amount of force to get them started. The difference comes as the compound bow passes a point where the cams let off a lot of the pull required to hold the drawn bow.

Most active archers today do not have the physical capability to pull an 85 pound bow and use it. I would bet that 75% of todays active archers would be unable to full pull either an 85 pound compound or recurve at all. Of the 25% who could pull that weight most of them wouldn't be able to use it accurately.

I hunt comfortably with a 70 pound compound Hoyt bow. I have to practice to use it. I weigh 220 pounds and owned a welding shop for the last 20 years. Now I sit at a computer all day and if I don't spend a couple days a week with my bow I get to where I have to give it an uncontrolled jerk to get it pulled. AN hour a week of practice over a few days and I am comfortable.

The lady with the 85 pound compound is exemplary. She is one heck of an athlete to accomplish that task competently. I am impressed.
35 posted on 10/07/2007 11:02:32 AM PDT by Borderline
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To: mad_as_he$$

Doubt it.
Only if you’re benchrestng or going to the Olumpics wth a .22.


36 posted on 10/07/2007 11:02:38 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: damondonion

It’s a compound bow, so how much does she actually have to pull?


37 posted on 10/07/2007 11:16:23 AM PDT by DocH (RINO-rudy for BRONX Dog Catcher 2008!!!)
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To: damondonion

It’s a compound bow, so how much does she actually have to pull?


38 posted on 10/07/2007 11:16:38 AM PDT by DocH (RINO-rudy for BRONX Dog Catcher 2008!!!)
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To: Izzy Dunne
The Girl With the 85-lb Bow

At her bow, are they 42.5 pounds EACH then? :)

And I agree about her stern.

39 posted on 10/07/2007 11:20:05 AM PDT by DocH (RINO-rudy for BRONX Dog Catcher 2008!!!)
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To: fish hawk

” I am American Indian and do know just a little about the bow and arrow.”

We don’t stereotype minorities around here.


40 posted on 10/07/2007 11:21:58 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: fish hawk
"Maybe I'm dense..."

Bingo

An 85 pound recurve goes from zero gradually to 85 at full draw; a compound goes from zero to 85 at mid-draw, then relaxes to 42-60, depending on the percentage of let-off.

When I bowhunted, I shot at 72#. On a mule deer hunt in CO a PSE Archery rep had a custom 110# compound. I was able to pull it, but it hurt like hell.

Only reason he could handle it was being a pro shooter who shot for hours every day.

By the way, if you are an Indian & don't know any more about "bows'n'arrows" than you let on, I'm betting on the Cowboys.

41 posted on 10/07/2007 11:26:24 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Shooter 2.5
My “target rifle” is set at 1.5 pounds. My field rifle is set at 3 pounds - checked it Friday. And yes both will fire if dropped on the butt. Also my field rifle which is a Sako has very little slack on the trigger. I am the only one who shoots either of them.
42 posted on 10/07/2007 11:28:21 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (SF- the $hitty by the Bay.)
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To: DocH
"It'a a compound bow, so how much does she actually have to pull?"

She must pull 85, but hold less at full draw. An 85# recurve can be shot at less than 85#, perhaps as little as 60#, by 'creeping the string'; that is slightly relaxing your bow-holding elbow to reduce your draw length.

43 posted on 10/07/2007 11:35:26 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: mamelukesabre
" don’t know about that. Those new fangled compound bows are pretty easy to hold steady. The draw weight decreases as you pull back on the string."

Letoff is one thing -- being able to pull back 85 lbs. to the point of letoff is another. This gal is impressively strong.

I shoot right at 50 lbs. and had to work hard to get there. Of course, a razor sharp broadhead, well placed, will bring down anything, even at only 50 lbs.

44 posted on 10/07/2007 11:35:45 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: damondonion

Odyssean.


45 posted on 10/07/2007 11:41:14 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (All my posts represent my opinions.)
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To: damondonion

I’m impressed - not by the bow thing - but that she is a Registered Professional Hunter and guide in South Africa.

Used to hunt with a Bear Kodiak Magnum, a nice recurve, but my fingers just cannot take the strain at my age. BTW, I quite bowhunting when the trees started growing feathers.

I go out here in Alaska, and carry a shotgun for defense against all the fauna that views me as a meal.

In Africa, there be ever more beasts that would welcome a tasty treat. So, very impressive for her.

Thanks for posting!


46 posted on 10/07/2007 11:48:59 AM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Don’t tell anyone, but increasing draw weight doesn’t necessarily increase arrow speed.


47 posted on 10/07/2007 11:54:58 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: SuziQ; Sam Cree; Ramius; g'nad

Thanks for the ping - interesting article. That’s a right respectable bow weight to pull. 60# was the most I shot with, and that were a good many years ago. I found 48# in longbows and recurves was my ideal bow weight for hunting, roving/stumping, and 3-D shoots. There’s a group of English Longbow shooters, one of which that shows up each year at MoJAM, that shoot 125-140# yew longbows. He shoots a 135# in matches and 110# for practice. It takes years of dedication and training to build up to that weight and the skill level to shoot effectively.


48 posted on 10/07/2007 12:02:28 PM PDT by osagebowman
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To: fish hawk

The guy’s right, you’re totally clueless.


49 posted on 10/07/2007 12:27:45 PM PDT by jeddavis
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To: DocH
It’s a compound bow, so how much does she actually have to pull?

All of it. In this case, 85 lbs.

50 posted on 10/07/2007 12:29:17 PM PDT by jeddavis
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