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Stunning new video of Flight 800 crash site (Missle strike theory)
World Net Daily ^ | 10-15-07 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 10/15/2007 12:25:05 PM PDT by yankeesdoodle

What we concluded, in fact, is that this extraordinary video has the potential to break the TWA Flight 800 case wide open.

The video had been shot from a U.S. Navy P-3 Orion that had been flying almost directly above TWA Flight 800 when it exploded off the coast of Long Island on the night of July 17, 1996. For the record, the P-3 is a long-range, antisubmarine warfare patrol aircraft with advanced submarine detection and avionics equipment.

According to the P-3 crew, all of whom remained stubbornly evasive about their mission when questioned, the plane was flying at 22,000 feet and heading south when the first explosion occurred about a mile away. One unnamed member of the crew was a New York Police Department representative of the NYPD/FBI Joint Task Force – tasked with fighting terrorism in the New York City area.

When the crew members learned of the blast, they promptly circled back over the area for half an hour and offered to help. This video was shot during that period. There is no mistaking the perspective as the

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: aerospace; flight800; shoebomb; twa; twaflight800; worldnutdaily; wot
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This is one of those videos where you kind of say- uh, what am I looking at? But the theory that flight 800 was done in by a rocket wouldn't surprise me. The Beltway sniper, Muhammed-- he wasn't a terrorist. Certainly not. The kid who ran over those college kids in the SUV shouting "Allah is great!"- definitely not a terrorist. Or the Egyptian copilot who slammed the jet into the ground- hey wasn't he also yelling that he was keen on Allah? But certainly not terrorism. The kid with the bomb that blew himself up outside the football game was certainly not realted in any way to a terrorist organization.
1 posted on 10/15/2007 12:25:19 PM PDT by yankeesdoodle
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To: yankeesdoodle

The libs don’t talk about this conspiracy theory do they?

Wonder why not?


2 posted on 10/15/2007 12:26:59 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: yankeesdoodle
Nothing to see here, move along...TM
3 posted on 10/15/2007 12:28:27 PM PDT by null and void (Lib-uh-rulz can't foresee even the clearest consequences to their actions...)
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To: yankeesdoodle

Seems like that is supported by several eye-witness accounts. I am not one for conspiracy theories, but this one has some merit.


4 posted on 10/15/2007 12:28:47 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: yankeesdoodle
According to the P-3 crew, all of whom remained stubbornly evasive about their mission when questioned,

"Stubbornly"? Go to bloody hell.

DUTIFULLY is the correct word.

5 posted on 10/15/2007 12:31:11 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: yankeesdoodle
SmileyCentral.com
6 posted on 10/15/2007 12:31:19 PM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools these mortals be!")
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To: yankeesdoodle

bookmark


7 posted on 10/15/2007 12:31:43 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: yankeesdoodle
TWA 800 "It wasn't terrorists. It couldn't have been."

ML/NJ

8 posted on 10/15/2007 12:32:51 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: yankeesdoodle

Hillary-paid moonbats arriving to debunk, delay, deny, obfuscate in ... 3 . 2 . 1 ...


9 posted on 10/15/2007 12:33:36 PM PDT by ikka
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To: yankeesdoodle

“...this extraordinary video has the potential to break the TWA Flight 800 case wide open.”

According to Nelson Demille in “Night Fall,” the tape was in the WTC and destroyed on 9-11.

Oh. That was fiction.

Oh. This is from World Nut Daily.


10 posted on 10/15/2007 12:35:24 PM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: yankeesdoodle

Asmodeus, NTSB field interviewer, would be posting his insult graphic links, his “Epert” text in inch tall letters, and his ‘missile withness myth’ text, all while ignoring everything that doesn’t it with his employer’s offical stance.
But he ain’t here.
*Snicker*


11 posted on 10/15/2007 12:36:38 PM PDT by Darksheare (If you set something free, and it returns, it must really like being captive.)
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bump


12 posted on 10/15/2007 12:37:00 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: PurpleMan

LOL
Great book!


13 posted on 10/15/2007 12:37:17 PM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: yankeesdoodle

OOps, doesn’t fit.
(Doesn’t it.. me and my typos..)


14 posted on 10/15/2007 12:37:43 PM PDT by Darksheare (If you set something free, and it returns, it must really like being captive.)
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To: yankeesdoodle

I couldn’t make anything out in the video except for the cross hairs and an outline of something. My eyes aren’t what they used to be.


15 posted on 10/15/2007 12:41:38 PM PDT by jerri
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To: ml/nj
Quite a while ago, there was a very plausible story on a DC radio talk station, which said that if terrorists shot down Flight 800, then the Secret Service (& FAA) could not guarantee the safety of air traffic in the US. Consequently, the President would have to travel by train. Ergo, Flight 800 was not shot down by terrorists - no matter what eye witness saw or what available films showed..

This was a case when the nation was under attack, and we were too "dumb" to realize it. Lets see, whe was President then? Did his name begin with C?

16 posted on 10/15/2007 12:44:48 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: Always Right; yankeesdoodle
>>>I am not one for conspiracy theories, but this one has some merit.<<<

I'm with you! Many clues point to a missile. But none is as compelling to me as the change in FBI TWA 800 Chief Investigator James Kallstrom's demeanor and body language from the time he was indicating that a missile was his prime theory to his abrupt change that it was an internal explosion.

Someone directed him to change his tune - it was so abrupt, and he looked so uncomfortable in trying to pull off something he clearly did not believe, that it is prima-facia evidence of a cover-up to me.

Not to mention some 300 witnesses that said they saw a streak of fire going up from the surface of the ocean [missile track] that were suddenly discounted as hallucinating.

17 posted on 10/15/2007 12:45:10 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out of Qurans)
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To: yankeesdoodle
One unnamed member of the crew was a New York Police Department representative of the NYPD/FBI Joint Task Force

It wasn't John Corey, was it?

18 posted on 10/15/2007 12:45:20 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: jerri

actually you pretty much summed it off so don’t be too hard on yourself


19 posted on 10/15/2007 12:45:48 PM PDT by yankeesdoodle
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To: yankeesdoodle

I wonder at what price the Clintons stopped this information?

I also wonder how the FBI Director is still alive?


20 posted on 10/15/2007 12:49:54 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: freekitty

The hamburglar most likely took that info also from the national archives.


21 posted on 10/15/2007 12:52:57 PM PDT by jerri
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To: yankeesdoodle
The whole story in the article seemed to be leading up to some dramatic statement that the new "burning object" was the engine that was "blown off" the plane by a missle strike.

Except in the last paragraph he says:

He is convinced that a missile blew the engine off three miles from where the bulk of the plane descended into the ocean. All evidence supports him, including now, a literal smoking gun, an object with sufficient fuel of its own to still have been burning at least a half hour after the crash. And that object is not likely the engine.

So, what was it? Someone burning a pile of leaves in the back yard? A house fire? some bums at a rail yard gathered around a 55-gallen drum with oily rags? He doesn't say.

22 posted on 10/15/2007 12:54:44 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: freekitty
I wonder at what price the Clintons stopped this information?

Just their souls.

23 posted on 10/15/2007 12:55:58 PM PDT by null and void (Lib-uh-rulz can't foresee even the clearest consequences to their actions...)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Leaves burning out on the water?


24 posted on 10/15/2007 12:57:18 PM PDT by Darksheare (If you set something free, and it returns, it must really like being captive.)
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To: yankeesdoodle

I can’t get it to play. :^( It sounds interesting, though.


25 posted on 10/15/2007 12:57:32 PM PDT by Shelayne (NO running or relenting until the problem has been dealt with-decisively,systematically,permanently.)
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To: yankeesdoodle

Stunning video. What was it?


26 posted on 10/15/2007 12:59:32 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (I'm supporting a Conservative not a RINO http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: CougarGA7

FLIR in ‘black hot’ mode.
Objects that are black, are hot.
Progressive shades of grey are less hot.


27 posted on 10/15/2007 1:01:59 PM PDT by Darksheare (If you set something free, and it returns, it must really like being captive.)
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To: SteveMcKing
"DUTIFULLY "

And covered under Clinton's EO.

28 posted on 10/15/2007 1:02:34 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I wondered about that sentence as well. Could it be a typo in a really “critical” sentence? It just doesn’t fit in with the rest of the paragraph at all.


29 posted on 10/15/2007 1:05:02 PM PDT by Shelayne (NO running or relenting until the problem has been dealt with-decisively,systematically,permanently.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
Quite a while ago, there was a very plausible story on a DC radio talk station, which said that if terrorists shot down Flight 800, then the Secret Service (& FAA) could not guarantee the safety of air traffic in the US.

Is the Secret Service charged with guaranteeing the safety of air traffic in the US?

30 posted on 10/15/2007 1:07:01 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (I made a prank call...pretended I was a mime.)
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To: yankeesdoodle

I could be believe there was a missile but not from this video.


31 posted on 10/15/2007 1:07:52 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Shelayne
Could it be a typo in a really “critical” sentence?

And, if so, who put the typo there? I think it was Soros.

32 posted on 10/15/2007 1:11:13 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (I made a prank call...pretended I was a mime.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Quite a while ago, there was a very plausible story on a DC radio talk station, which said that if terrorists shot down Flight 800, then the Secret Service (& FAA) could not guarantee the safety of air traffic in the US. Consequently, the President would have to travel by train.


Mmmmmkay.


33 posted on 10/15/2007 1:11:36 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Darksheare

The article didn’t indicate that the burning was in the water.

If it was, then you would have to wonder how it could be the engine, which certainly would have been at the bottom, not on the surface.

And the engine wouldn’t have had enough fuel “self-contained” to leave a slick that would be burning a half hour later, would it?

Maybe I misunderstood the entire article. :-)


34 posted on 10/15/2007 1:12:41 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Deaf Smith
And covered under Clinton's EO.

Yes, as did Bush rig the World Trade towers to fall.

35 posted on 10/15/2007 1:20:50 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: yankeesdoodle

So the government could get hundreds of other people to shut up and rig all kinds of records, but they can’t control the taking and dissemination of a video from an aircraft they own?

I watched the FLIR footage, there’s nothing there of interest. Order more tinfoil.


36 posted on 10/15/2007 1:20:53 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: null and void

What souls? The Clintons sold them long before this TWA incident.


37 posted on 10/15/2007 1:23:53 PM PDT by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

LOL. No conspiracy. Just bad proofreading. That—or I misunderstood the intent of the article.

It wouldn’t be the first time. ;^)


38 posted on 10/15/2007 1:27:50 PM PDT by Shelayne (NO running or relenting until the problem has been dealt with-decisively,systematically,permanently.)
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To: yankeesdoodle

Does anyone else remember that there was a warning from the terrorists that something big was going to happen? And then flight 800. And then that ridiculous little bomb under a park bench at the 1996 Olympics, to make it look like that was what the terrorists meant (supposed perpetrator completely exonerated and in fact suing the people who ruined his life).


39 posted on 10/15/2007 1:35:25 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The burnig was on the water.
That is obvious from the video, the location of the crash, and the video having been shiot from a P3.
If the burning was on land, there would have been objects visible in it to ID it as being on land, instead there’s all white void, meaning it is on cool water.
It’s FLIR in black hot mode.
Objects in black are hot.
Progressive shades of grey are less hot.
White is cold.


40 posted on 10/15/2007 1:35:30 PM PDT by Darksheare (If you set something free, and it returns, it must really like being captive.)
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To: SteveMcKing

I have no idea where you are going with that statement.


41 posted on 10/15/2007 1:36:11 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Shiot????

My typos are getting worse.
Shot.
*sigh*

The artticle could have been written better, yes.


42 posted on 10/15/2007 1:37:42 PM PDT by Darksheare (If you set something free, and it returns, it must really like being captive.)
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To: SteveMcKing

Dubya said, “This is a terrorist attack”.
Clinton?
“Oh Moooonica...”


43 posted on 10/15/2007 1:40:37 PM PDT by Darksheare (If you set something free, and it returns, it must really like being captive.)
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To: angcat

Besides being great reads, his books have laugh out loud lines.


44 posted on 10/15/2007 1:57:00 PM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: yankeesdoodle

There’s no video at the link.


45 posted on 10/15/2007 1:58:31 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: yankeesdoodle

Why don’t we spell missile correctly? One would think that with all the Scud missiles, cruise missiles, antiballistic missiles, interplanetary missiles, and other flying missiles we would be familiar with spelling missile by now.


46 posted on 10/15/2007 1:59:43 PM PDT by RightWhale (50 years later we're still sitting on the ground)
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To: Old Seadog

What souls? Ever see The Producers?


47 posted on 10/15/2007 2:36:15 PM PDT by null and void (Lib-uh-rulz can't foresee even the clearest consequences to their actions...)
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To: yankeesdoodle
I am very skeptical of a possible missile attack for one reason: there is no warhead fragmentation blast pattern consistent with known MANPAD missile types. The warhead of a Stinger, SA-7 or SA-18 missiles will fragment in a very specific manner upon detonation, but somehow we don't see it anywhere on the remains of TWA 800. That right there rules out a MANPAD terrorist attack. A few years ago, an A300B4 cargo plane was hit by a MANPAD missile near Baghdad, and after the plane safely landed you can easily tell the impact pattern of the MANPAD missile warhead on the plane.
48 posted on 10/15/2007 2:38:56 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Good place to bump this thread.


49 posted on 10/15/2007 4:53:47 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq— via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.))
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The Launch Vehicle, a boat set on fire by the launch of a missle that over 300 eyewitnesses report in great detail.


50 posted on 10/15/2007 4:56:28 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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