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The State of Blu-ray
Gizmodo ^ | Thursday, November 8, 2007 | Wilson Rothman

Posted on 11/17/2007 12:54:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv

The root of the problem is that Blu-ray did not have a finished specification when devices went into production. Instead, there were two or three "profiles," outlined in the chart above. After November 1, any Blu-ray player had to meet 1.1, sometimes called "final standard profile." Panasonic planned a mid-November launch of its 1.1 player, and a production delay caused Samsung to update its player to the spec. Denon always planned to ship its first Blu-ray player in December, so it planned for 1.1 all along. Meanwhile, Sony, Pioneer and others introduced Blu-ray players in the fall that shipped just before the November 1 deadline, thereby ensuring that they did not have to be "final standard." Instead, they met the requirements of the simpler "initial profile." ...

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Computers/Internet; Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: bluray; hdtv; hdvd; hvd
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1 posted on 11/17/2007 12:54:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

There is a huge battle of the formats, but nobody seems to care.


2 posted on 11/17/2007 12:58:34 PM PST by Always Right
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To: SunkenCiv

I don’t think blew-ray is gonna be a-maken’ the grade.


3 posted on 11/17/2007 12:59:14 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: SunkenCiv
Beta-ray is doomed.

Sony has pissed off all their best customers. They are dead to me.

4 posted on 11/17/2007 12:59:53 PM PST by Dinsdale
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To: SunkenCiv

There’s an easy way to forcast which format will win out:
Find which one Sony is pushing and go with the other one. :-)

They make nice stuff, but they never seem to get their way.


5 posted on 11/17/2007 1:05:20 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: SunkenCiv
If the Blu-ray manufacturers can’t get their act together soon, they will have to retool for HD-DVD players if they don’t want to loose their shirts.


6 posted on 11/17/2007 1:05:48 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Always Right
There is a huge battle of the formats, but nobody seems to care.

Not much incentive to care unless you're an early adopter. Like HDTV, BluRay/HD DVD offers incremental improvement. Impressive, certainly, but hardly of the magnitude of color, or stereo.

And who wants to replace the hundreds of DVDs already purchased for a slight improvement in picture quality. How many Americans have audio set ups that can truly take advantage of Blu Ray's potential.

People are buying HDTVs because they're flat and big, not because they have a great picture, although that's a nice side benefit. Most are hooked up to plain old cable.

I can live without it until one or the other assumes a controlling position.

7 posted on 11/17/2007 1:10:18 PM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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8 posted on 11/17/2007 1:10:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

This is that link...


9 posted on 11/17/2007 1:11:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xsrdx
Not much incentive to care unless you're an early adopter. Like HDTV, BluRay/HD DVD offers incremental improvement. Impressive, certainly, but hardly of the magnitude of color, or stereo.

I disagree. HDTV is a quantum leap over the old standard television signals. Any average Joe can see the obvious difference between watching a football game in HDTV vs. regular TV. But I agree, that most people scratch their heads at the quality difference between DVD and HD-DVD. It is very incremmental to the average consumer. I think DVD is good enough for most folks, and this pissing contest between formats of HD-DVD/BlueRay in the end will be meaningless. We will probably have players that play all three, and it will be transparent to the consumer. There will be no rush to upgrade their libraries like there was going from VHS to DVD's.

10 posted on 11/17/2007 1:23:45 PM PST by Always Right
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To: xsrdx

Somewhere I read that most consumers appear to be buying uprated DVD players — players (and they’re cheap) which improve the picture output for standard DVDs, making them look much better on HDTVs. I could go for that...


11 posted on 11/17/2007 1:28:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Dinsdale

That’s the sentiment of one or two comments at the topic link. :’)


12 posted on 11/17/2007 1:30:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ramius

It does seem to work out that way, doesn’t it? :’) Still...

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13 posted on 11/17/2007 1:31:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I hope it dies!!! I like my DVD’s. Sorry for those who like Blu-ray, but we don’t need another video system. We have one that is adequate. This is one area that I don’t believe in capitalism...lol.


14 posted on 11/17/2007 1:31:58 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

I don’t see any conflict; I used to have bunches of VHS tapes (and since I never throw much out, they must still be around here somewhere), I now have DVDs, and I don’t consider either to be an investment. They do the job they’re supposed to, and relay content to me. Years ago, the guy who ran SuperMac Technology was interviewed in one of the Mac mags, and stated that although he was involved in (what is now) HDTV standard-setting, his view was that there’s not much point to improving the picture without improving the content.


15 posted on 11/17/2007 1:39:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: darkwing104

My guess is — and as wild guesses go, it’s pretty wild — that neither one will prevail per se, that high capacity media of other kinds, as well as various wireless technologies, will kick the hell out of both of them, leaving us with orphaned formats, as well as DVD (the latter playing the role of once-ubiquitous VHS, for low-budget distribution). Those media will be hard drives and flash memory.


16 posted on 11/17/2007 1:43:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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17 posted on 11/17/2007 1:53:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Those media will be hard drives and flash memory.

Outside of Satillite downloading mush of the U.S. and the world is cerverly limited in reguard to Wireless technology. Many cable companies internet systems couldn't handle the bandwith such players would take up.

I am sure the Studios won't be too crazy about putting their products on recordable media. I also can see someone is working on a limited use, one time recording flashcard to replace the DVD.


18 posted on 11/17/2007 1:56:05 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: darkwing104

:’) There are ways to deal with those reservations. It’s clear that people like A) capacity growth and B) portability. Hard drives have the edge over everything for capacity growth, and flash memory has the edge over everything for portability.


19 posted on 11/17/2007 2:02:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Always Right
Any average Joe can see the obvious difference between watching a football game in HDTV vs. regular TV.

I guess I'm not very average. The most notable difference I can see is that the picture is wider, and slightly sharper. Big deal. That's great with movies, but TV is a waste. There isn't anything on T.V. that I care to see wider and slightly sharper, and precious few movies, either.

When the college football season is over, I'm canceling my HD service with Comcast and giving back the set top box I have to pay rent on. That'll save me $15 per month, for no loss.

20 posted on 11/17/2007 2:12:40 PM PST by jimtorr
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