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Noble Savages? The era of the hunter-gatherer was not the social and environmental Eden some suggest
Economist.com ^ | December 19, 2007

Posted on 01/01/2008 11:54:37 AM PST by billorites

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1 posted on 01/01/2008 11:54:40 AM PST by billorites
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To: billorites

-bflr-


2 posted on 01/01/2008 12:10:04 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: billorites

The early agriculturalists had another advantage: cereal grains are easier to store and preserve than wild hunter-gatherer foods, therefore providing protection against famine. Also, the article neglects a whole life style: pastoralism, and the benefits of domesticated livestock. It’s a lot easier to get protein if one has milk and meat produced right in the village, requiring no hunting. Domestic oxen provided power far beyond that of human beings, and horses gave mobility, making it easier to migrate in times of famine.


3 posted on 01/01/2008 12:14:43 PM PST by hellbender
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another advantage: cereal grains

Ah....beer.

4 posted on 01/01/2008 12:16:11 PM PST by SouthTexas (Happy New Year!)
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To: billorites

More here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1946604/posts


5 posted on 01/01/2008 12:19:25 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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ping for later


6 posted on 01/01/2008 12:23:31 PM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: billorites

The last sentence is the most laughable.


7 posted on 01/01/2008 12:36:02 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Algore - there's not a more priggish, sanctimonious moral scold of a church lady anywhere.)
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I really get tired of full posts from The Economist. I pay $125 for my subscription. I don’t appreciate this copyright infringement,


8 posted on 01/01/2008 1:28:26 PM PST by Fractal Trader (.)
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You may want to check fair use laws. It allows for copyrighted materials to be used for the sake of criticism or analysis.

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html


9 posted on 01/01/2008 1:47:27 PM PST by mnehring
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To: billorites

==> “When we eventually reverse the build-up in carbon dioxide, there will be another issue waiting for us.” <==

Reducing atmospheric CO2 will reduce food crop production, which may finally induce the masses of humanity to eat the environmentalists, which is all that they are good for.


10 posted on 01/01/2008 2:19:28 PM PST by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Geez, where do they get this stuff?


11 posted on 01/01/2008 3:36:49 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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So was agriculture “the worst mistake in the history of the human race”, as Jared Diamond, evolutionary biologist and professor of geography at the University of California, Los Angeles, once called it?

I read one of Diamond's books for a class a couple years ago and remember thinking at the time that there had to be something wrong with his reasoning. If agriculture was really so much less healthy a lifestyle, then people would have tried it for a while then the survivors would have gone back to the old ways.

This article gives a plausible explanation for what really happened. Once people recognized that more of their children were surviving than used to, they would put up with a lot of other problems rather than go back.

12 posted on 01/01/2008 4:09:21 PM PST by irv
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To: Fractal Trader

Get over yourself. Sheesh.


13 posted on 01/01/2008 5:10:39 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: hellbender
Once upon a time there was a discipline called cultural anthropology. It died at the hands of the postmodern critical theory marxists perhaps twenty years ago. This kind of half-baked pastiche of idle speculations and armchair theorizing is what replaced it.
14 posted on 01/01/2008 5:27:13 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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the article neglects a whole life style: pastoralism, and the benefits of domesticated livestock.

I believe that pastoralism is ignored for two reasons:
1)there is archaeological evidence that pastoral lifestyles came after farming and evolved as a way to exploit land that were marginal at best for grain crops.
2)The authors may have considered pastoralism another type or extension of farming (despite the long tradition of hostility between pastoralists and farmers).

15 posted on 01/01/2008 5:38:06 PM PST by Fraxinus (My opinion worth what you paid.)
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"HUMAN beings have spent most of their time on the planet as hunter-gatherers."

"Geez, where do they get this stuff?"

Out of their p00p shutes would be my guess. The second generation of humans were growers and shepherds; when were there any significant numbers of hunters?

16 posted on 01/01/2008 7:59:28 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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" I pay $125 for my subscription. I don’t appreciate this copyright infringement"

If you pay money to read this kind of rubbish, you're not a discriminating buyer! Few readers of the economist have any discernment of reality, so they get away with it.

17 posted on 01/01/2008 8:04:09 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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It’s not even the hunter-gatherer stuff, it’s the speculations about what happened, why, how,....

All that from a few fossils.

Must be some dandy stuff they’re smoking...


18 posted on 01/01/2008 8:11:02 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Note: this topic is from 1/01/2008.

Thanks billorites.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


19 posted on 08/12/2012 8:54:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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“War is normality. Peace is anomaly, the interlude between wars.” Bert


20 posted on 08/12/2012 11:54:22 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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