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Egypt: 4 Women Die of Bird Flu
NYT ^ | 01/03/08 | DONALD G. McNEIL Jr.

Posted on 01/04/2008 10:32:47 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

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To: nicmarlo

The WHO (World Health Organization) puts out new information every day. I don’t necessarily trust them or their figures - but do keep an eye on their reports:

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2007_12_27/en/index.html


21 posted on 01/04/2008 11:29:51 PM PST by yorkie
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To: isom35

I need to tune it in , this sounds like a classic Art Bell, I wonder if it can be transmitted by migratory birds ?


22 posted on 01/04/2008 11:45:13 PM PST by KTM rider ( SCOTUS '08 it's more than the oval office this time)
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To: nicmarlo

The following are sites with some very informative links concerning the avian flu:

http://www.pandemicflu.gov/

http://migratorybirds.fws.gov.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/birdflu.html

http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/health_medicine/bird_flu/


23 posted on 01/04/2008 11:45:21 PM PST by yorkie
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Four people die and the world is put on alert by the NYT. Will wonders never cease.


24 posted on 01/04/2008 11:47:24 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; Battle Axe

micro ping


25 posted on 01/05/2008 12:17:38 AM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping (Thanks, neverdem!)


26 posted on 01/05/2008 12:52:45 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: taxesareforever
Four people die and the world is put on alert by the NYT. Will wonders never cease.

Four more. It does not seem like many, but overall in Egypt alone, the death rate is 44%. Not quite half the people who get this bug die from it.

It is not yet efficient at human to human transmission, although there have been small clusters of cases which appear to have been transmitted that way.

Migratory birds have spread the disease from Southeast Asia to Europe and Africa, millions of domestic fowl have been culled as a result of infections within the flocks, and wild birds have been found with low path H5N1 in the US.

If it becomes better at human to human transmission without losing virulence, the resulting pandemic could conceiveably kill 2+ Billion people worldwide, effectively collapse the world economy, and perhaps civillization as we know it.

Maybe that won't happen, but I think the situation bears watching.

27 posted on 01/05/2008 1:07:53 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I’m betting on the bird flu. Let’s see, 38,999,996 more to go.


28 posted on 01/05/2008 3:04:25 AM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I anticipate renewed vigor in the Class Warfare area by the Clintonistas; playing the gender card (to woo young women the “glass ceiling” issue) and trying to portray the Hildabeast as a “victim” of male dominated politics....


29 posted on 01/05/2008 4:21:06 AM PST by traditional1 (Thompson/Hunter '08)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
HA HA HA, I laugh at anything the NYT’s puts out.

Why do you all believe any of this, seeing as how
we are in the liberal political high volumn news season .... come on

30 posted on 01/05/2008 5:09:25 AM PST by ThreePuttinDude ()... Cevapi & Slivovitz for everyone....()
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To: geopyg; yorkie

Sound advice, to be sure. (Glad it was cozy for ya, too : )


31 posted on 01/05/2008 6:05:15 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: yorkie

Thanks for posting the links.


32 posted on 01/05/2008 6:05:42 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: yorkie

I don’t trust any UN organization, the CDC, or their numbers....however, I do pay attention to what they claim.


33 posted on 01/05/2008 6:06:36 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Smokin' Joe

Note that tagamet can prevent the death by “cytokine storm”. I have stocked up on the generic version.


34 posted on 01/05/2008 8:42:20 AM PST by darth
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To: darth

Do you have a link to more info on that? I’d sure like to see it!


35 posted on 01/05/2008 8:55:11 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: darth
I have not been able to find that Tagamet stops a cytokine storm - this link seems to say that it stops T cells and keeps the immune system UP. This site talks about what might prevent a cytokine storm and doesn't list Tagamet there, only that it might help against a cold or flu virus.
36 posted on 01/05/2008 12:02:21 PM PST by Yaelle (If Fred loses it's our loss. Not his.)
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To: nicmarlo

It’s a matter of of ongoing receptor binding changes and there are already strains resistant to some of the antivirals.


37 posted on 01/05/2008 3:58:56 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...vitamin D to the rescue?)
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To: Domestic Church
there are already strains resistant to some of the antivirals.

I understand that to be the case. However, aren't they right now concerned about its mutation into a transmissible virus from chicken to human? Are you saying that measures taken to kill H5N1 (the 1919 mutation of the flu) have proven resistant???

38 posted on 01/05/2008 4:02:16 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Most if not all the cases have been due to direct contact with birds. Some reports of human to human transmission have been made but this is not certain. When the final mutation comes, according to Coast’s guest last night, the human population of earth will be devastated very quickly, he was talking about thousands left.


39 posted on 01/05/2008 4:02:59 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: yorkie

According to Coast’s guest, the reason it stopped is that it mutated to a non-dangerous form.


40 posted on 01/05/2008 4:04:27 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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