Skip to comments.A Vote Against McCain = A Hillary White House ZOT!
Posted on 01/20/2008 12:17:49 PM PST by kelly.s
As much as I prefer Rudy Giuliani for President, I just can't fathom voting against McCain and giving the White House to Hillary. Hopefully, most Republicans will see the lesser of two evils when casting their vote.
How 'bout a Giuliani/McCain ticket (or vice versa) for Pres. & VP? Think Independents would come on board?
I don't mean to sound like a desperate Republican, but sometimes you've just gotta call it like it is. :o)
That would REALLY motivate the base...not.
This ought to be interesting.
Normally I hold your view, but in the case of McCain v Hillary, I see both as damaging the country just about equally.
I’d rather give my vote to Fred or Romney. Remaining true to the Conservative Ideals instead of selling out.
I had to wait until I was done throwing up.
I am not voting for ugly in the GOP anymore, ugly with no principle is not what I can stand.
And if Hillary loses to McCain, she can always run as a Republican next time.
I can't say it enough.
You know, sometimes folks got to see how bad it gets beefore they know they even need a cure. Think Jimmuh “the dumb” Carter.
The lack of a national leader for conservatives for so long has been bad. In Florida I voted for the RINO, and all I got was this “stop global warming” tee shirt. Don’t need two.
lol. true... she’ll out-republican him by a mile next cycle.
FRED THOMPSON is the best person to lead this country. He is a true conservative and has been his entire life. All one has to do is check his record to see this.
During my time in the Army as an Intelligence Analyst, I served under both Presidents Carter and Reagan (as my commanders in chief). Without argument, President Reagan was the best commander-in-chief a military person could ever have served under. Fred Thompson possesses the same qualities and vision as President Reagan in that he is strong on national defense and sees a dire need to secure our borders and control immigration.
I can think of no better person to lead this country and fix the problems we have. He is the only candidate from either party who has specific and detailed plans on border security and immigration reform; revitalization of Americas armed forces; saving and protecting Social Security; and tax relief and economic growth. These are detailed on his Web site at www.fred08.com . I challenge you to find any other candidate who has laid out specific plans to fix anything.
Fred Thompson has published his first principles, some of which are mentioned above. In addition to those, he strongly believes in individual liberty, personal responsibility, limited government, federalism, traditional American values, the rule of law and is a strong proponent of the Second Amendment all concepts established during the birth of our country and documented in our Constitution.
Again, try to find any candidate who has laid out their plans to fix this country. You will find they all speak in vague and abstract terms on their plans.
For those who have heard Fred Thompson speak, you will usually hear him say that the Fred Thompson you see today is the same Fred Thompson you saw yesterday and is the same Fred Thompson you will see tomorrow. He stands by his principles and values and doesnt shift his positions based on polls or public opinion; in other words, he doesnt say what the voters want to hear just to get elected, but remains steadfast on his views and convictions.
During his time in the Senate he focused on three areas: to lower taxes, strengthen national security and expose waste in the federal government. Fred Thompson has foreign policy experience, having served as member of the Senate Foreign Relations and Senate Intelligence committees.
As chairman of the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee, he opened the investigation in 1997 on the Chinese governments attempt to influence American policies and elections, and this investigation identified connections with the Clinton administration (documented in the committees report).
As a member of the Finance Committee, he worked tirelessly to enact three major tax-cut bills. Fred Thompson remains steadfast and even though a person may not agree with all his views and he understands some may disagree with him, you can count on him to be consistent and unwavering.
Dont be fooled by his laid back approach and what critics call his laziness. As a former assistant U.S. attorney, he earned a reputation as a tough prosecutor and he possesses the toughness this country needs in order to tackle todays and tomorrows issues.
I ask that you take a hard look at what this country needs, then take a hard look at all the other candidates views, policies, their records and their track record on consistency. Fred Thompson possesses integrity, loyalty, commitment, energy and decisiveness, all traits of an effective leader, and will emerge as the best person to take this country boldly forward.
Please help Fred win in 2008:
Romney will be a much, much more formidable opponent than McCain.
Seriously. He’s on a roll:
Romney has already won three times.
Romney is so far ahead in delagates, he’s got almost double his nearest competitor.
Romney is nice. People like him. And frankly, women find him attractive - and I’ve seen a number of (FR) women right here on these boards, saying they’ll vote for Romney, pretty much just for that reason.
He’s got strengths which play directly against democrats.
If hillary is the nominee - Romney makes strong inroads into hillary’s otherwise lock, on “soccer moms”.
If Osama-bama is the nominee - Osama-bama’s religious ambivalence is (way) more unsettling to voters, than Romney’s faith.
And Edwards just ain’t happening.
Way I see it, Romney wins the election.
January 21 2009: Mitt Romney takes office. And Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid, still won’t be able to do ... squat.
8 more years of clintons in the white house? Is that what those who say they will stay home really want? You g uys really want a repeat of clinton scandals, higher taxes, soft on terrorists?
“How ‘bout a Giuliani/McCain ticket (or vice versa) for Pres. & VP?”
What’s your DU screen name?
McCain will sell us down the river and get a lot "accomplished", mostly bad stuff; defacto amnesty, more CFR, global warming reg.,maybe gun control, "moderate" judges, and so on. No thanks, never. NEVER. Hes already shown his tue colors.
I’ve come to a very similar conclusion. And if the nation is going to take a mind-numbing hit out of this next election, I’d rather the Dims get the ultimate blame for it.
She's a one termer. For sure.
Just look at the damage McCain's already done.
If he gets the nom, and Fred and Rudy are likely to swing their support to McCain--it's all over for the Reagan coalition.
I can’t believe what I’m reading here.
I’m afraid if Hillary wins the nomination she will choose Obama as her running mate. Any thoughts on that? I can see a hillary/obama ticket getting their base motivated.
I don’t care much for some of the republican candidates, but I’ll take any of them over hillary.
I agree. One term of Hillary and the GOP might just pull their heads out of their collective butts and remember what they stand for.
This is madness.
swatted yourself a live one. lol
Gets my vote for the absolute dumbest statement ever posted on FreeRepublic!
GEEZE what are these people thinking?
Don’t be so sure it would be that easy to have hillary for just one term. I’m sure a lot of people thought they’d be able to get rid of bill after 4 years.
His wife Cindy - the other woman with baggage of her own - is not what most Americans hope of the First Lady and will be a constant reminder of his adultery and the cruel way he betrayed his first wife.
I agree. McCain is not really a conservative, but one of those old democrats.
Giuliana/McCain. You have lost every marble in the bag. Rooty-toot AND Juan? Makes me wonder what the hell is going on here with this election. We have FR posters suggesting Rooty and Juan. At least with the media you know you are being backstabbed...
(just today on CNN)
McCain(1st), Huckabee(2nd), Romney (4th), and Giuliani(6th), but not a damn word about Fred Thompson(3rd).
Same with FOX. Right now Rooty has been on live for about 11 minutes. This morning CNN had Rooty on live for about 30 minutes. I have been sitting here at work watching the FOX and CNN monitors and today, ALL DAY, there has been less than 3 minutes TOTAL for Fred Thompson on the two COMBINED.
Tell you the truth I have royally had it with the media, my observations of it here clearly indicate that there is an agenda to blackout Fred and Promote the liberal RINO's
BTW, all the time I have been typing this, CNN STILL has Julie-Annie on live in FL. It has been about 18 minutes now.
If this nation sinks because of a thinly-veiled communist Presidency we can look squarely to the liberal DBM.
I've been listening to you moderates try to tell me for the past year that only a moderate can beat Hillary Clinton. It looks like you're about to see if your plan works - good luck with that - I predict it's going to be a massive failure.
P.S. The only reason McCain won in South Carolina is because he got the votes of Independents - not for the reason you probably think - but because they are trying to mess up the Republican Party's chances to win.
Let’s not all be so pessimistic. While I’m still devastated with Duncan Hunter dropping out yesterday, there are still other candidates (other than McCain) that may have a chance.
While I know there are TONS of Romney haters here on FR, he seems to have a decent platform, from what I’ve seen. Or even the Huckster may be OK.
Whoever we get, we will be settling, that’s for sure. But the McCain nomination is not a foregone conclusion as of yet!
McCain could go to convention and negotiate for the nomination, but he would be defeated if he did.
I think the latter may be the most likely scenario.
If he even looks like the nominee, The third party ticket will siphon off so many republican votes that Billary would waltz into the White House without a sweat or a plurality of the vote. Just like her husband did.
Without a doubt, Cinnamon, but my original point assumes that Fred or Romney won’t make it to the nomination.
Yeah, I’m been feeling ill quite a bit lately myself.
No way, NEVER!
This is WHY I decided to post this topic today...
...and one term is way too long...
Yes, unfortunately, the Reagan coalition seems to be spiraling downward, gosh! What horrible predicament!
Sen. John McCain
Sen. Lindsey Graham
[Graham up for re-election November 4, 2008]
Sen. Jon Kyl
Sen. Arlen Specter
Sen. Mel Martinez
Yes, I heard about the possible Clinton/Obama ticket...just this past week. Hillary’s no dummy.
And I agree, I’ll take ANY republican candidate over Hillary...and I still don’t feel like I’d be selling out.
I just like something in all the Repub candidates, well, ok maybe not so much McCain-—uh, let me think, well, alright, the surge is working.
It would be nice if all the good qualities in the candidates could be rolled up into one candidate.
Hey, I can still dream, you know! :o)
I’m thinking, whether I like it or not, that John McCain just MAY wind up being the Republican nominee!
Exactly. Makes no sense to be overconfident anymore.
I never said I was a McCain fan.
There are 2 potential major outcomes of this election that will destroy conservatism in this country forever:
1. The continued toleration, if not complete embrace, of illegal immigration, resulting in millions of additional Democrat voters.
2. The appointment of at least 2, maybe 3 Supreme Court justices to replace Stevens and Ginsberg, and possibly Scalia.
If Hillary, Obama or McCain are elected President, conservate movement is doomed.
The Globe hates Romney for good reason. he changed the dynamics in Massachusetts to the dismay of the liberal establishment and made them all look silly.
Sure, you can find a few quotes from the campaign against Teddy Kennedy, but it must be understood that the environment in Massachusetts does not make it easy for a conservative to thrive. In fact, just the opposite.
Romney is indeed a traditional conservative. He has proved this time and time again with his actions and most of his rhetoric. He has the energy and drive to be great president, and if you plus that up with his acumen for organization and management, it makes him a very strong candidate.
Social conservatives are not all in opposition to him, and those who are may be doing so for the wrong reasoning, but it is possible to get the majority of them on his side by the time of the general election, so he can unite the party. He can be the nominee.
And he can beat Billary or Obama in a head to head, if he gets that needed support from the rest of the factions. Assuming of course, that Bloomberg and his money stay out of the Independent candidacy. He will stay out if McCain crashes. Those votes will largely go to Mitt.
A vote for McCLoon or Tooty Fruity Rooty....you get Hitlery. Even if McLame or Rudy were elected, you get the Clinton agenda without voting for it.
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