American Jailed Under Patriot Act

vanity | 03/03/08 | no-to-illegals

[no-to-illegals]

I too am left shaking my head.

[Red6]

“I know not what was typed by Randy, and I do not support violence (Randy’s writing may have been interpreted as violence), “

So you don’t know what he said but have a strong opinion on this.

I have an idea, get the facts and then post them, *maybe* then I can share your views.

[RDTF]

maybe you should wait to see the evidence before you panic? The US govt doesn’t have the manpower or money to waste it on someone that is just having fun on the internet. Use your common sense.

[RDTF]

by the way - is he related to LA DJ Rick Dees?

[ravingnutter]

First of all, you don’t know what he wrote and don’t know if he served...why do you call him a Patriot? The FedGov isn’t into locking up people without cause. Let the facts come out, then you can make a determination on his guilt or innocence. Until then, considering you don’t even know him, I don’t think I’d get involved.

[raybbr]

Here's a video on Youtube.

I have no opinion on this just passing it on.

[DeLaine]

Just that video alone should get him locked up. Yuck.

[no-to-illegals]

I take my family member’s word. btw...my family member, I spoke with, served.

[SoldierDad]

Ping for later so I can research the name. I too shake my head - at the reason why this thread exists without any knowledge about what this man may or may not have done.

[no-to-illegals]

I trust my family member....It may be removed....I will have no ill will. I posted to General/Chat, not News. The mods always can have their way...I posted for information purposes.

[nicmarlo]

In general, I share your concerns.

However, in particular, I cannot state anything concerning
this person. There are no particularities upon which to
base any opinion. I do not know what he said, to whom it
said it, or in what context the statement was made.

That does not take away from your family’s opinions, but
that is, indeed, all it is. That does not mean weight is
also given to the state, either.

I do not like the government intrusion into, or retraction
of, American’s Constitutional freedoms “in the name of”
MOST anything. Merely expressing opinions, where it puts
no one into danger (as it would with, say, shouting “fire”
into a theater) is removing our right to free speech.

Either we are either free citizens or we are not.

[no-to-illegals]

Thank You, for commenting....I have done some research concerning this situation, and I trust my family member, but sometimes research does leave us lacking information, as with the thread, we both, have been on. I do not intend to invite anyone else over to view this post...but may many read. I realize some may do some research and some may not....but my only desire is to warn everyone to not post something in the heat of an argument that may cause one’s family grief. This is a reminder to myself, as well.

[nicmarlo]

...warn everyone to not post something in the heat of an argument that may cause [one OR] one’s family grief.

And likely some will (as I see some already have) scoff at that idea/warning. I do not.

[IllumiNaughtyByNature]

Here is all that can be found on the first 5-7 google posts. Its the same everywhere with no additional data:

> On Dec 20, 2007, Long Beach Police executed a search warrant on the home in Long Beach where he was renting a room from the owner. Police broke down the front door at 7am (no one was home; Randy had already left for work), ransacked the whole house, confiscated Randy's computer and two legally registered firearms and magazines and then ripped the power box out so the power could not be turned back on. They also took many of his important files. The search warrant was for DOMESTIC TERRORISM! This search warrant was issued due to a remark regarding the ACLU on the SOS forum a few months earlier. The post was seen by one of our open borders enemies who complained about it to the San Bernardino Police Department.

> Randy had plane tickets to fly out of LAX the next day, Friday Dec 21 to go home to North Carolina for the holidays. Although he was shaken by the unexpected raid on his residence, he had no fear that any crime had been committed. He consulted with an attorney Friday morning and then packed up for his trip home. At about 3pm on the 21st, Long Beach Police called Randy to tell him a warrant had been issued for his arrest and that he needed to surrender to the Long Beach Police Station by midnight.

They told him if he tried to get on his flight at 8pm, he would be arrested at LAX. Randy notified his lawyer and was told to turn himself in. Randy and a friend went to the police station at about 6pm to surrender to the still unknown charges. He was immediately booked and bail was set at $550,000. Randy was transferred to county jail in Santa Clarita in late December and has been there ever since. He was brought back to Long Beach on Jan. 15th for a hearing and the judge told Randy he is facing 4 1/2 years in prison on still unspecified WEAPONS charges. Randy has another hearing in February. His situation is looking bleak and he has lost confidence in his lawyer. We are currently working with Randy to see how we can help him.

[no-to-illegals]

Thank You. Another mystery.

[IllumiNaughtyByNature]

Someone on one of the links made a good point. Where is the outrage and all the blogging on this? You can't have a hampster fart without a blog launching a cyberwave about it? No post to original post of his, no paraphrase, nothing.

Ra^ther strange?

[IllumiNaughtyByNature]

A youtube video has a message that two pot plants were found in addition to the two guns. THAT is what could be missing from the info.

Dont have any validity to post but just snooping around.

[Ramius]

OK... I guess I don’t understand this post. What, exactly about this case has anything to do with the patriot act?

Domestic terrorism (if indeed it has anything to do with this case) was already against the law. There’s also something pretty nonspecific about “weapons” charges. Hard to say what that means, but there’s not much new there either. Supposedly some statements or threats were made but we don’t know the nature of those. There were already plenty of ways to get in trouble for threatening the life or limb of another person, so who knows whether there’s anything new there? We don’t.

He’s been arrested. He’s got an attorney, and he’s getting due process. He’s not in Gitmo, even.

All we know is that some guy has done some things we don’t know and he’s been arrested. Well... so what?

Not a lot to go on. I’ll need a little more info before I think Bush is the bad guy in this.

[no-to-illegals]

Thank you for your comments.
may I type, President Bush didn't arrest Randy Dees, nor did President Bush report Randy Dees? Looking over this situation, I am simply shaking my head....I do not know what to think, so I simply typed a warning for others. Is the ACLU involved...I do not know.

[no-to-illegals]

Thank You for snooping....Two days ago, I saw some things, I did not read, which said were writings of Randy Dees. Found them with keywords: Randy Dees, California. If these alleged writings, of Randy Dees, are gone, the mystery has deepened. Again, Thank You.