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To: Swordmaker
I can think of only four ways that that Diplodocus could have taken a single step without a total and soon fatal collapse: I cast my vote for the last one of these.
87 posted on 03/21/2008 11:05:05 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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88 posted on 03/21/2008 11:25:52 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (a fair dinkum aussie)
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To: ThePythonicCow

Cosmological solutions are the work of crank physics. There isn’t any plausible scenario that involves reduced gravity.

I don’t have a solution, but the simplest guess is simply that the weight estimates for these creatures are way off.

It’s amusing that creationists are quick to criticise paleontologists for extrapolating entire creatures from a few bones, but when such extrapolations suggest that Newton and Einstein are wrong about physics — hey, let’s scrap physics.


92 posted on 03/22/2008 12:44:36 AM PDT by js1138
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To: ThePythonicCow
I can think of only four ways that that Diplodocus could have taken a single step without a total and soon fatal collapse:

How about this one:

? We also have the distinct problem that Diplodocus' difficulty with his morning amble 67 million years ago is not the only mega-fauna with problems... the Teratorns of both North and South America must have been having a large problem with flying to look for that early sloth within the last 20,000 years... going extinct only 12,000 years ago.

Was the air denser then? No, that can't be the answer because the keeled breastbone of the Teratorns is NOT a proportionately super large adaptation compared to modern birds... indicating that it didn't have to anchor huge flight muscles (27 times wider and thicker) to overcome his 27 times non-proportional increase in mass than the smaller birds. In addition, the wing area, although larger than modern Condors, is only 9 times larger.... to support 27 times the mass in flight. Not a very good aerodynamic design... and one that shows no adaptation to having to support a lot more mass. Ergo, the force that the bird was designed to counter... gravity... had to be less.

Could a humming bird scaled up just three times its normal size and 27 times its normal mass still fly? How much energy would it need to consume to stay in the air and hover... and how large would the wings have to be?

94 posted on 03/22/2008 12:59:19 AM PDT by Swordmaker (There ain't no such thing as a free app...)
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