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Okay - I'm a 5'3" girl and I WANT ONE!!!
http://www.taurususa.com/video/taurus-theJudge-video.cfm ^ | Taurus Int's

Posted on 03/25/2008 7:20:35 PM PDT by Dooderbutt

Okay - Sorry, But this gun gets me ... well, a weeee bit excited (I'm a female) I can shoot, not GREAT, but rather well...I WANT THIS GUN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps that was one "!" to many - or not enough..


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1 posted on 03/25/2008 7:20:38 PM PDT by Dooderbutt
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To: Dooderbutt

it’s all about SIZE ;-)


2 posted on 03/25/2008 7:23:14 PM PDT by itsLUCKY2B (?Borders, Language, and Culture.?)
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To: itsLUCKY2B

Did you watch the video??? You HAVE to!


3 posted on 03/25/2008 7:23:55 PM PDT by Dooderbutt (Al Gore - now the most sanctimonious lardbutt Yank on the planet ~ D. Thompson)
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To: Dooderbutt
We can't keep them in the shop I work at on weekends. In fact the last one was brought in on a trade and we had it re-sold before the guy who traded it had his check.

Best thing I can tell you is to special order it, instead of waiting for one to show up at your favorite gun shop.

4 posted on 03/25/2008 7:24:53 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Remember, no matter how bad your life is, someone is watching and enjoying your suffering.)
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To: Dooderbutt

Here come da Judge.


5 posted on 03/25/2008 7:25:27 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (PUT AN END TO ORGANIZED CRIME. ABOLISH THE I.R.S.)
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To: Dooderbutt
Well, perhaps the title to this was a little more, ummm, provocative than I thought to begin with...but this is...just look at the video..please.
6 posted on 03/25/2008 7:26:14 PM PDT by Dooderbutt (Al Gore - now the most sanctimonious lardbutt Yank on the planet ~ D. Thompson)
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To: Dooderbutt

5’3”? You are but a Keebler Elf! I am 6’3”! (smile)


7 posted on 03/25/2008 7:26:44 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Pistolshot

How much are they going for?


8 posted on 03/25/2008 7:27:02 PM PDT by Dooderbutt (Al Gore - now the most sanctimonious lardbutt Yank on the planet ~ D. Thompson)
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To: Dooderbutt
(BTW, I did watch the video...very nice!)
9 posted on 03/25/2008 7:28:02 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day

Hey - I’m a Keebler Elf with a JUDGE, you better watch out (and I’m 1/2 Irish!!) LOL


10 posted on 03/25/2008 7:28:03 PM PDT by Dooderbutt (Al Gore - now the most sanctimonious lardbutt Yank on the planet ~ D. Thompson)
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To: Dooderbutt

I hope that thing shoots better than that video loads.


11 posted on 03/25/2008 7:28:14 PM PDT by ShadowDancer ( Losers always look for excuses. Winners never quit.)
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To: Constitution Day

I think I may be a freak. I WANT this gun!!!! I REALLY, really do!


12 posted on 03/25/2008 7:29:11 PM PDT by Dooderbutt (Al Gore - now the most sanctimonious lardbutt Yank on the planet ~ D. Thompson)
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To: Dooderbutt

Wow. THAT is a great gun!


13 posted on 03/25/2008 7:29:28 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ShadowDancer

“To ensure smooth playback allow video to load completely,
if necessary drag the playhead to the start of video.”


14 posted on 03/25/2008 7:30:19 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Dooderbutt

$550-$600 dealer price depending on availability and dealer. THey are very popular and hard to find wholesale.


15 posted on 03/25/2008 7:30:32 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Remember, no matter how bad your life is, someone is watching and enjoying your suffering.)
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To: ShadowDancer

Yeah, it loads slower than it plays. What I did was after a couple of minutes started it over. It then played fine.


16 posted on 03/25/2008 7:30:45 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Dooderbutt

I sell them. Aside from the fact that it is a Taurus, and their quality control leaves something to be desired, there’s the ammunition cost, how many ranges will let you fire it, and the effectiveness of the weapon. .45 Colt ammo is stupid expensive right now. Whatever you’re paying for .45 ACP cartridges, add ten bucks. The .410 buckshot and slugs that it can fire cost about $1.40 apiece, or $70.00 for fifty shots.

A good .357 Magnum will give you better durability, choice, and cost of ammunition. If you want some real hot stuff to put in it, Remington sells a 165 grain hunting load for it that has some stones.


17 posted on 03/25/2008 7:31:57 PM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: Dooderbutt

I wish I could help you, but I’m in the middle of getting my ‘55 Chevy back on the road, and I can’t fit one of these into my budget, much less two. :)


18 posted on 03/25/2008 7:32:33 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Dooderbutt

Dual rounds .45 or 410 handgun nice.


19 posted on 03/25/2008 7:33:44 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Dooderbutt

It will be my second Taurus after my PT99.


20 posted on 03/25/2008 7:34:20 PM PDT by bmwcyle (McCain has yet to give conservatives a reason to vote for him)
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To: Constitution Day
My first wife was 4'11", which makes her an Amazon.


21 posted on 03/25/2008 7:35:17 PM PDT by Viking2002 (I hope the AG pounds the Mann Act up Spitzer's ass with a sharp stick.)
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To: Dooderbutt

The Judge, Jury and EXECUTIONER!!!

Damn. That thing is scary!!


22 posted on 03/25/2008 7:36:15 PM PDT by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: sig226

I have said (I’m not a complete ‘gun freak’) I want them available to me, but I am not that knowledgeable...But, it some a##hole comes to my front door, I’d love to see the look on his face when I pump the shotgun I have in my hand...However, this handgun just gives me shivers...can’t help it.


23 posted on 03/25/2008 7:36:29 PM PDT by Dooderbutt (Al Gore - now the most sanctimonious lardbutt Yank on the planet ~ D. Thompson)
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To: Viking2002

I once dated a girl who was 4’11”. You make a valid point.


24 posted on 03/25/2008 7:37:04 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Ronin

Well, scary, but cool as h-e-double hockey sticks.


25 posted on 03/25/2008 7:37:29 PM PDT by Dooderbutt (Al Gore - now the most sanctimonious lardbutt Yank on the planet ~ D. Thompson)
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To: Dooderbutt
Well, thank ya'll for replying. It's almost 11:00 here and I'm ready for bed. You guys (and gals) have a wonderful night

I have dreams of the Judge through my head...you live in S Florida!

26 posted on 03/25/2008 7:42:31 PM PDT by Dooderbutt (Al Gore - now the most sanctimonious lardbutt Yank on the planet ~ D. Thompson)
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To: sig226; Dooderbutt
Dittos, sig.
Dooder, watch out for the recoil. Your hands/wrists could take a pounding. There are many great personal defense sidearms available that would comfortably fit you. Just ask. FR has a lot of really experienced people that will help.
27 posted on 03/25/2008 7:46:24 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (El Conservo Tribal Name: Fishes with Dynamite. ---- Illegetimi non carborundum.)
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To: Dooderbutt
If your concern is defence when in a car, get one of these. It's a car hijackers nightmare.
28 posted on 03/25/2008 7:47:01 PM PDT by SJackson ( G-d da*n America, J Wright; Don't tell me words don't matter!, BH Obama)
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To: Dooderbutt

I’m a 5’4” and I’d prefer an H&K Mark 23, with threaded barrel, and suppressor.


29 posted on 03/25/2008 7:48:06 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: Dooderbutt

Coool .45 ot .410 shot or even plugs..


30 posted on 03/25/2008 7:49:16 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: wastedyears; All

5’4” male

=(


31 posted on 03/25/2008 7:51:49 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: Dooderbutt

Everyone in my amily has one. Loaded with 000 Buck it is my choice when there is a noise at night. I get them for $385. My wife shoots it with no problem.


32 posted on 03/25/2008 7:59:03 PM PDT by chesty_puller (70-73 USMC VietNam 75-79 US Army Wash DC....VietNam was safer.)
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To: Dooderbutt

You’re still taller than my ex-girlfreind


33 posted on 03/25/2008 8:11:22 PM PDT by John Will
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To: Dooderbutt

My Mom’s 5’1”. Grandma was 4’9” tall. You’d be the family Hagrid.


34 posted on 03/25/2008 8:14:59 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: SJackson

That looked......uh...... painful.


35 posted on 03/25/2008 8:17:17 PM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: chesty_puller
Loaded with 000 Buck it is my choice when there is a noise at night.

I guess OOO buck makes more sense than OO which just seemed rather silly (why use a 0.3" ball in a 0.41" barrel?) but I wonder why nobody's come up with interesting 28ga shotguns with a fixed choke to 0.498"? I'm not sure the BATF would call a barrel with a fixed choke "rifled", so such guns might be limited by the 18"/26" restriction, but keeping the bore below 0.5" would avoid the "sporting purposes" restriction. I would think a bull-pup semi-auto shotgun could be configured to allow reasonably effective point-shooting from the hip (use stock adjustments to match point of aim to the shooter's expectation) while possessing excellent retention characteristics (only 6" or so in front of the grip, while a "fork" would be cradled in the shooter's forearm).

36 posted on 03/25/2008 8:20:16 PM PDT by supercat
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Yeah, it loads slower than it plays

I thought you were talking about the gun, for a minute there.

37 posted on 03/25/2008 8:21:18 PM PDT by SmithL (Reject Obama's Half-Vast Wright-Wing Conspiracy)
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To: Dooderbutt
Taurus revolvers are great. I've got one of these myself,

a Taurus Tracker in 41 Mag. The Taurus rubber grip design is great. I have some ultra hot Corbon hunting loads and it really helps with the recoil. I imagine the 410s are a handful.

38 posted on 03/25/2008 8:28:09 PM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: Dooderbutt

for later


39 posted on 03/25/2008 8:34:48 PM PDT by AprilfromTexas
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To: PzLdr; John Will

Short chicks rock


40 posted on 03/25/2008 8:41:01 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: NCC-1701
Here come da Judge.

Jury and executioner too. There ain't going to be any survivors from one of those rounds.

That's a mean little bugger. Kind of scary.

41 posted on 03/25/2008 8:41:08 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Dooderbutt

You don’t happen to be up in Wisconsin, maybe talking on the radio?


42 posted on 03/25/2008 8:46:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: sig226

That and I know Glaser or some other makers make bullets that fire pellets and give a shotgun-type blast.


43 posted on 03/25/2008 8:48:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: sig226
Aside from the fact that it is a Taurus, and their quality control leaves something to be desired...

I dunno, I have two Taurus guns, a .357 Total Titanium ported snubby and a new PT-1911 and I'm completely satisfied with their performance and durability.

The 1911 is awesome in its' accuracy compared to some others I have had over the years,maybe because of the Laser grips which have helped me with staying on target,or maybe because of the standard Henie sights or the custom fitted barrel and slide...all standard...not bad for $600!

44 posted on 03/25/2008 8:49:21 PM PDT by oldsalt (There's no such thing as a free lunch.)
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Penis envy is such a sad thing to see.


45 posted on 03/25/2008 8:49:39 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: Dooderbutt

For the Size!

I would go with a Walther P99, or a Walther PPK(my preference), or a PPK/S. I have both Walther’s (P99 and a PPK)and they are an absolutely great piece, my opinion only! I know nothing about the Taurus!

But that Taurus is kinda huge, so I’ll give you that, for the size ONLY!

Size matters, I guess for some people!

But the Walther’s (P99 and PPK) both have nice stopping power, and they are small, and fit quite nicely in the hand!

I like a Walther piece!

I will buy more, that’s for sure!


46 posted on 03/25/2008 8:51:43 PM PDT by eaglegso
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To: sig226
Aside from the fact that it is a Taurus, and their quality control leaves something to be desired, there’s the ammunition cost, how many ranges will let you fire it, and the effectiveness of the weapon.

I've owned several of them from the 1980s on and was never unhappy with the QC. This is an old myth that goes back to the 1970s when the brand originated in Brazil, IIRC. Somebody once told me that Brazil nationalized a Beretta and a S&W factory and took them both over which is why early models so closely resembled their better known competition, but I can't verify that tidbit.

I do know that the Judge has a lot going for it in the role for which it has been specifically designed: Anti Car Jacking or dedicated vehicle defense weapon. The rifling in the barrel will cause the shot load to open way faster than would be possible with a smooth bore so you really don't have to be dead centered to a hostile face in the window to keep from becoming dead yourself. The shot load would just blow your face off and I rather doubt that a bad guy is going to be concerned with continuing his criminal act under such conditions.

Somebody mentioned GLASER and MagSafe. I live in South Florida and that is all I have loaded in any of my carry weapons, be they my 9mm Sig P226 "Blackwater Edition" or my Sig P245. But if I lived in a colder climate I'd be using something more conventional. In any case, the magsafe and glaser are still a single projectile. The "shot" really doesn't become a factor until the round has penetrated the body. It still requires good accuracy and shot placement.

"The Judge" really doesn't need excellent accuracy when using the 410 but of course would with the 45 Colt loading. As I understand it, that load is somewhat under-powered in the sense that it was designed to be used in older model guns and therefore the mushroom effect can be problematic. But with hot enough loads they'd be fine. I don't think I'd enjoy getting hit with any 280gr lead object at any velocity.

As for availability, well at all the gun shows I attend each year here in Miami FL I have seen at least a dozen examples all over the show. Gun show prices on them don't seem to improve much over the retail store purchase. However, a better deal can be made in a TRADE I have found. If you've got something that you either don't shoot much or isn't really near and dear to your heart, you might make a good deal.

47 posted on 03/25/2008 9:18:07 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: sig226
I sell them. Aside from the fact that it is a Taurus, and their quality control leaves something to be desired

I have to admit that I haven't stayed current on firearms, but I guess this sort of surprised me, as I had wonderful luck and support on a Taurus PT99 that I bought back around 1989 or so. The construction was terrific, and I really beat the heck out of it in bowling ping and USPSA competition. I even got an "Ernie Hill Speed Leather" rig for it!

I would guess that since then, I figure that I've put well over 75,000 rounds through it, and the only 2 problems I ever had were that the rear sight fell off while I was competing in a match: Talk about focusing on the front sight! I realized that "something" had changed, but I didn't know what it was during the match. And the second problem was that I found these really cool IMI 9mm FMJ Boat Tail bullets (I seem to recall they were 169gr) and some loading data that let me shoot "major power factor" in my 9mm! Well after about 100 rounds, my pistol stopped cycling. One of the locking lugs had sheared off and dropped down, jamming the action. I shipped the gun to Taurus for repairs, and the replaced the locking block and told me that every thing else checked out OK. It wasn't until well later that I found out the loading data I had used was for sub-machinegun loads, well past the +P+ pressures! But it didn't cause any problems, and it's been well over 10 years since Taurus fixed my pistol, and it still shoots great (though I don't shoot it as much, and haven't used SMG loads in it since then!)

I guess I'm just sort of surprised and saddened that Taurus quality control has suffered.

Mark

48 posted on 03/25/2008 9:21:33 PM PDT by MarkL
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So this pistol doesn’t count as a “sawed off shotgun” because it has a rifled barrel? I don’t know how the regulations work here.


49 posted on 03/26/2008 8:29:04 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Dooderbutt

I have had one on order since November 3. Still waiting.....


50 posted on 03/26/2008 8:31:26 AM PDT by Space Moose
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