[PeterFinn]

Whatever. Ben Stein still gets props from me for simply speaking out against the eduocracy.

[nmh]

We're seeing Expelled tomorrow!

We can hardly wait. We pay no attention to the atheists in Scientific America who are partly behind the suppression of opinions that vary from theirs. No surprise they are up in arms about Ben. The liberal elite, Scientific America is no longer about genuine science. Scientific American is all about a leftist, godless agenda. It has fallen from a fine magazine to a liberal rag.

[theBuckwheat]

People who assert evolution have a fundamental problem: origins. Their theory depends upon life appearing spontaneously from non-living matter. Nothing they can say about subsequent life forms on this planet change that fact. Yet, they artfully dodge this essential issue by saying they don't deal in origins, even as their faith in the secular depends on the very origin they refuse to consider.

[elfman2]

Thanks for the post, will read closer when time allows.

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

Lying for Darwin ping!

[ClearCase_guy]

The speech shown at the beginning and end was staged solely for the sake of the movie.

Really?? But, the parade in "Ferris Bueller" -- the one where Matthew Broderick sings "Danke Schon" -- that wasn't staged, right? I mean, you're not telling me that film producers actually set some of this stuff up, are you?

[mnehring]

Bump for detailed reading later. Some good points there, especially the last. Many religious people accept evolution in some form. I personally believe in Theistic Evolution.

[higgmeister]

Seven: How banal and inane his Movie Trailers are!

[Paved Paradise]

Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

[Rick.Donaldson]

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG you mean the Right can’t have it’s own Micheal Moore (someone who actually isn’t LYING all the way through the movie) but the Socialist CAN?

Give me a BREAK!

[jagusafr]

Thousands of other biologists across the U.S. who all know evolution to be true are also still religious.

No bias in THAT statement, is there?

[DManA]

What ever you think Ben Stein believes, what he DOES is contribute to radical left wing Senate candidates.

[NavVet]

“The scientific method involves rigorously observing and experimenting on the material world. It accepts as evidence only what can be measured or otherwise empirically validated (a requirement called methodological naturalism). That requirement prevents scientific theories from becoming untestable and overcomplicated.”

What a crock. Global Warming, Big Bang Theory, and I think we’re on our third theory about what killed the dinosaurs just since I’ve been around. Science has no problem speculating when it suits them.

[snarks_when_bored]

Ben Stein is an engaging personality, a smart guy, a funny actor and a savvy investor. He has every right to believe what he wishes to believe about the results (or what he views as the lack of results) of scientific inquiry. But the question he asks the "dude" professor in his television commercial for this movie is, frankly, silly: asking the professor how he explains life's origin—and thereby implying that if no answer is immediately forthcoming from science, none ever will be—is mere sophistry. Three hundred and fifty or so years ago, skeptics (with amazingly advanced astronomical data somehow in hand!) could have asked Isaac Newton this question: "How do you explain the precession of the perihelion of the orbit of Mercury using your inverse square theory of the gravitational force?", and Newton would have been unable to answer. Why? Because that precession is not predicted by Newton's theory of gravity; it took Einstein's development of his theory of general relativity to explain it.

To suggest, as Ben Stein's funny question suggests, that if a scientific answer to how life came to be cannot be made right this minute, then no scientific answer will be forthcoming, ever, is to suggest something which is false.

[FourtySeven]

LOL! WHEE, a soon to be 500+ post thread which, out of these 500 replies, probably 1% will actually address the points.

Point 6 actually might be a popular one, if only to say, “Well, of COURSE it’s the godless CATHOLICS that would accept eevil-loution!”, over, and over, and over again.

But oh well, we can’t have anyone taking the words of Scripture metaphorically at times, especially when there are so many one handed, one-eyed people out there that are in danger of loosing their other appendages. (cf Matt 5:30, Matt 18:8, Mark 9:43, Mark 9:45)

[trumandogz]

It seems Ben Stein went to the Michael Moore School of “Documentary” Making.

[LS]

Looks as if Ben Stein has hit a home run, judging from the nature of the whiney criticisms. It's a FILM. I think he has a right to "stage" a lecture for a MOVIE.

And having worked on dozens of books, there are lots of times that the title of the book or even some of the direction changes a little after you get into the information.

[absolootezer0]

only six points, some as dumb as “that wasn’t a real audience”?
still has more truths than any moore or gore “documentary”

[savedbygrace]

It’s very kind of you to provide all this free advertising for the film. Lots more people will go see it as a result, I’m sure.

I almost never go to the theater to see films, but after seeing how intently the pro-evos are slamming it, I’m seriously thinking of seeing it this weekend.

[Liberty Valance]