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NetFlix to HD Owners: We Know You'll Pay More (Netflix raises Blu-Ray prices because it can)
tvpredictions.com ^ | April 22, 2008 | Phillip Swann

Posted on 04/22/2008 3:56:40 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave

NetFlix yesterday said it would soon raise monthly subscription fees for Blu-ray high-def disc rentals.

And the online DVD rental service couldn't have been clearer as to why it will hike those prices.

High-def owners are accustomed to being charged more than the average consumer, the company said.

"Consumers are used to paying more for High-Definition content in every other channel, including video rental stores, video-on-demand, and cable channels," explained Netflix CEO Reed Hastings.

In other words, Hastings is saying that it's okay to gouge the high-def owner a bit because he/she is used to being gouged a bit.

The executive was referring to the fact that HD VOD movies usually cost $1 more than standard-def VOD films; that most cable and satellite operators charge an extra monthly fee for HD programming packages; and that the HDTV itself cost far more than a non-HD Digital TV.


Is this the picture of a high-def owner, according to NetFlix?

While Hastings is unusually honest about his feelings on the subject, he is not alone. In March 2006, Peter Chernin, president of News Corp., which owns Fox Studios, told a financial conference that his company was talking to cable and satellite operators about charging $25-30 to watch a movie in HDTV 60 days after its theatrical release.

Asked if the $25-30 cost seemed unfairly high, The Hollywood Reporter quoted Chernin as saying that some high-def owners would be "desperate consumers" because there is relatively little HDTV programming available on cable and satellite.

To date, News Corp. has not followed up on Chernin's plan. But Hastings' remarks indicate that the industry's belief that it can take the high-def owner for a ride has not changed.

However, one thing can change.

If you're a NetFlix subscriber, you can decide to change your DVD rental service.

In fact, Blockbuster recently announced that it would increase the number of stores carrying Blu-ray rentals to about 5,000. When NetFlix reveals its new Blu-ray subscription price, I suggest that you check out your local Blockbuster -- and Blockbuster's online service.

And, if Blockbuster offers a better deal, take it.

That will show NetFlix that you won't just "take it."


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1 posted on 04/22/2008 3:56:41 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave
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2 posted on 04/22/2008 3:57:26 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, June 2004.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave
Blu-Ray is more costly to produce, so this makes sense.
3 posted on 04/22/2008 4:05:31 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Las Vegas Dave
Instead of being an improvement in product, the industry has taken the transition to HD as a chance to change their business model.

Their revenue has gone down, rather than looking at their product and realizing that most of their movies hold no interest to the majority of people, they have tried do come up with a way to make more money with a generally lousy product.

We have seen it in the theaters, they are taking more and more money from the theaters leading to $5 cokes and candy.

Now they desperately want us to buy $500 players and spend $30 per disc on lousy movies. They forced Blu-Ray/HD DVD war outcome giving us the more expensive alternative.

Well they have had the opposite effect on me. I no longer buy day and date movies. I may rent a movie if it sounds good and then wait and buy used.

If a movie is HD worthy, I wait until it is on TV, record it with my computer and watch it on my media player.

Well their business model has an upside, my movie budget has gone way down leaving more money in my pocket.

4 posted on 04/22/2008 4:24:56 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: Las Vegas Dave
I checked out NetFlix and didn't find them to be much of a savings on regular DVD's. As for Blue Ray, my Hollywood Video has one small rack of them and they of course are more expensive than the regular DVD's.

In my opinion, the escalated price for renting the BR's is BS.........DVDs on my Pioneer plasma are just fine and so I'm not about to go into overkill for the sake of BR.

Additionally, I'm now in the habit of getting my DVDs from my local library. Granted, what I pick up are older but at least they are free..........

5 posted on 04/22/2008 5:15:08 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My company's union supported Granholm...we all lost our jobs.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
You should check out Windvd 9, it makes regular DVD movies look similar
to HD. If, you have a 720p or 1080i screen the difference is very noticeable.
6 posted on 04/22/2008 5:26:53 PM PDT by MaxMax (It's not the politics I despise, It's the politicians for being so stupid..)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Red Box is great, too....$1 per movie....for a 24 hour rental


7 posted on 04/22/2008 5:49:44 PM PDT by goodnesswins (20 is the new 10)
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To: Las Vegas Dave
In other words, Hastings is saying that it's okay to gouge the high-def owner a bit because he/she is used to being gouged a bit.

So using his analogy it's okay to also gouge car owners on insurance rates, auto repairs since they are being gouges on gas prices. This is not capitalism, this is pure greed.
8 posted on 04/22/2008 6:14:31 PM PDT by FORTRUTHONLY
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To: Las Vegas Dave

There are fewer blu-ray titles and fewer blu-ray customers than the general public. It presents an investment in non-compatible discs.

Where is the start up company that only offers blu-ray discs and what is there monthly service fee?


9 posted on 04/22/2008 6:25:23 PM PDT by weegee (Vote Obama 2008 for a bitter America.)
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To: MaxMax

There is a product that uses super resolution techniques to increase real resolution. It’s not real time but it does add real resolution to the video.

Toshiba is supposed to have a DVD player coming out sometime around the end of the year with a cell based processor that does super resolution in real time. I wouldn’t expect Blu-Ray quality but it shoud turn regular DVD into real 720p.


10 posted on 04/22/2008 7:23:57 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: dangerdoc
Now they desperately want us to buy $500 players and spend $30 per disc on lousy movies. They forced Blu-Ray/HD DVD war outcome giving us the more expensive alternative.

I'm still in the 'wait and see' stage - I remember probably only about 7 years ago, when my family was looking at standard DVD players, it was difficult to find one for less than $100, and IIRC the average price was closer to $200. Now, they're dirt cheap and everywhere. Similarly, DVD's used to be well over $20 each, and now you can find them for about $7 at places like Best Buy. Give it some time, and it might just be affordable, but until then I'm sticking with DVD.
11 posted on 04/22/2008 10:00:59 PM PDT by Hyzenthlay (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

That’s what happens when you eliminate the competition (HD-DVD). With only 1 alternative, prices were bound to go up. No surprise here.


12 posted on 04/23/2008 4:22:17 AM PDT by Hurricane Andrew (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

What business owner doesn’t charge every penny they can for a product?


13 posted on 04/23/2008 4:30:32 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Sorry, Netflix. I LOVE your service, but my upconverting DVD player does a decent job on making regular DVD’s look good on my LCD, so I don’t care about Blu Ray.


14 posted on 04/23/2008 7:26:58 AM PDT by Born Conservative (Visit my blog: Chronic Positivity - http://www.chronicpositivity.com)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

This is too bad.
Netflix actually lowered my monthly bill a few months ago.
Never seen that before.


15 posted on 04/23/2008 8:01:54 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: Las Vegas Dave

I dropped them long ago for “throttling”.


16 posted on 04/23/2008 8:51:27 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: Las Vegas Dave
I dropped Netflix after many years when they dumped HD DVD. I had several HD DVD titles in my queue at the time, and they were changed to SD DVD. Some were new releases that I wanted to preview before buying or not (Assassination of Jesse James, American Gangster, etc).

I went over to Blockbuster Online, and was able to rent them there. Indeed, I have rented several HD DVD titles since switching. This new Blu-Ray plan of Netflix' does not look promising either. I'm glad I am rid of them.

17 posted on 04/23/2008 9:48:35 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: Straight Vermonter

“What business owner doesn’t charge every penny they can for a product?”

A business owner interested in growth and long-term health rather than short term profit. I think the American automobile industry would be a good example.


18 posted on 04/23/2008 12:21:45 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: dangerdoc
...america used to make cars?

Humph, I did not know that.

Netfkix is beginning to appear to care about "customers".

I called them the other day to give them a throttling about "throttling" ( delaying deliveries sometimes by 3 days for me).

They, of course lied & said they didn't or it was someone elses fault (gee, who could that be?).

But, now my DVD's are arriving at jet speed.

19 posted on 05/16/2008 1:12:29 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

BR discs cost them more to buy, it’s not gouging to send the costs to the customer.


20 posted on 05/16/2008 1:33:48 PM PDT by boogerbear
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