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To: samiam1972
Freeman Dyson claims,

Since the modern nation-state was invented around the year 1500, a succession of countries have taken turns at being top nation, first Spain, then France, Britain, America. Each turn lasted about 150 years. Ours began in 1920, so it should end about 2070. The reason why each top nation’s turn comes to an end is that the top nation becomes over-extended, militarily, economically and politically. Greater and greater efforts are required to maintain the number one position. Finally the over-extension becomes so extreme that the structure collapses. Already we can see in the American posture today some clear symptoms of over-extension. Who will be the next top nation? China is the obvious candidate. After that it might be India or Brazil. We should be asking ourselves, not how to live in an America-dominated world, but how to prepare for a world that is not America-dominated. That may be the most important problem for the next generation of Americans to solve. How does a people that thinks of itself as number one yield gracefully to become number two?

54 posted on 06/20/2008 2:07:13 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug; samiam1972
Ours began in 1920, so it should end about 2070.

How did he arrive at 1920?

The reason why each top nation’s turn comes to an end is that the top nation becomes over-extended, militarily, economically and politically.

Again, looking back at the past, a major contributor to the extermination of these great societies was litigation. Essentially, they collapsed under the weight of so many laws. We, as a nation, have already arrived there.

56 posted on 06/20/2008 4:09:51 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: onedoug

According to Mr. Dyson, I’ll probably be dead before America reaches the number 2 position. However, just recently my husband and I think we are being called to get out of town and on to some land. I feel like it is important for my kids to learn that milk doesn’t come from the grocery store and strawberries aren’t grown in plastic containers.


62 posted on 06/20/2008 9:37:13 PM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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