Posted on 07/17/2008 7:16:27 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark
So far the internet provides little to no information about Obama's IQ Score, his college transcripts from Harvard, his GPA, his SAT or LSAT scores. Could Obama actually be as dumb as Al Gore? Wait... that's not possible. We know that Obama has less experience than a Home Owner's Association President, but could he have an IQ to match? Help me out if you find information about his IQ and other test scores. Thanks.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/02/the_barack_obama_test.html
YAHOO: Who has a higher IQ Barrack Obama or George W. Bush?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080710201803AASiRbH&show=7
JUSTANSWER: What is the IQ of Barack Obama?
http://www.justanswer.com/questions/19ivb-iq-barack-obama
JUSTANSWER answers the question with a best guess answer from
http://www.kids-iq-tests.com/d-prez.html
We know Obama is dumb as a brick, but really,
shouldn’t his test scores be posted ... ping?
It doesn’t really matter when you are an America hating socialist... which he is.
After all, our new President-Elect B. (whose middle name, according to McCain, must NEVER be spoken) Obama will take on ANY PRESIDENT, PRIME MINISTER, OR DICTATOR--ANYWHERE, ANYTIME--when it comes to one-on-one on a basketball court!!! /s
Half of what he thinks it is.
“Help me out if you find information about his IQ and other test scores.”
Don’t you pay attention to the news? He’s brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. The nation has seen few in his intellectual category. And the same for Michelle, brilliant and stunning beautiful and stylish.
Actually, I’ve asked in a thread or two if anyone knew Barack’s SAT scores. That information is normally out there fairly early about nominees. I’m not buying the brilliant part. Seems like a lightweight to me, due either to a poor education or a subpar intelligence and/or common sense. No nominee has ever made near the gafffes that he’s made. And usually the ‘clarifications’ just confuse things more.
Give ‘em time, they need to finish doctoring up that birth certificate first, and then they’ll have time to fuss with the SAT and IQ score documents. Give ‘em time.
Even Monica Crowley called her "unquestionably brilliant" (on the BOR Factor tonight). I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and guess she never read Michelle's rambling and error-strewn college thesis.
I’ll give him a 1016. :^) His knowledge of World History should just about take us there.
He is probably as smart as Al Gore. Remember in 2000 we were constantly told what a brilliant policy guru he was. Then came the first debate with President Bush. Gore performance that night was mostly strange noises coming from his microphone, because he didn’t understand that it was turned on while Bush was answering questions. Funniest thin I ever saw in my life.
The last link in your post admits they don’t know his LSAT score, but assume it is the average of all Harvard Law students! From that flimsy starting point, the conclude that he could qualify for MENSA.
Without documentation it’s a free for all.
Soon guessed answers from a kids website
will become fact.
I get physically ill whenever
I see Algore on the news.
My husband and son qualify for Mensa. Qualifying for Mensa doesn’t mean much. You can be smart and be a terrible leader and have terrible stances on issues.
That LSAT to MENSA leap is shameful.
If he doesn’t release it, the value will be determined by his detractors. That goes with anything. Be it scores, lifestyle, character, or opinion. He must trust that to those that know him best and they must release it. Otherwise, his VRWC BS doesn’t hold any water at all. Same as Bill.
Woodrow Wilson’s IQ was possibly the highest of any President, and he gave us the income tax, the Fed, US entry into WWI, the League of Nations and many other things we still regret.
I know a couple of Mensa people. Altho we are good friends — I’m not impressed.
My wife just asked me, from the other room, what is so funny. I have the feeling she would understand.
Based on the fact that he doesn’t/didn’t know how many states are in the Union (which I and a nephew I recently asked both knew by age 8), I’ll hazard a guess that Hussein’s verbal SAT would have been a bit higher than his math SAT.
Any guesses?
“Woodrow Wilson’s IQ was possibly the highest of any President”
I think JFK had the correct appraisal of that subject:
‘At a 1962 dinner for 49 Nobel laureates, President John F. Kennedy quipped that the event was “the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever gathered at the White House, with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone.”’
[... Woodrow Wilson’s IQ was possibly the highest of any President, and he
gave us the income tax, the Fed, US entry into WWI, the League of Nations ...]
Stop! That’s frightening!
My guess is under 120. That’s just not
acceptable if you are the Quissats Haderat.
He was editor of the Law Review and graduated magna cum laude. I don't know if that qualifies him for Mensa, but clearly he's easily smart enough to be dangerous.
If Obama isn’t that smart, anyone who calls attention to this will be labeled “racist!”
If his IQ is not known, why not just make up a number? Look at that bogus report many years ago that said GWB’s IQ was lower than average. The media picked up on that and trumpeted this phone story. Turns out it was a big hoax and the “institute” that released the story never existed.
I’m surprised Obama’s camp hasn’t already said his IQ is 150 or something astronomically high. After all, they enjoy making up falsehoods about their candidate to make him look good. And who is going to go digging for the real truth, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSN etc? Ha ha.
You mean he actually has one? ;-)
Oh... My... Gosh! “Being There” is about Barack Obama!
I totally missed that movie because Peter Sellers gives me the
creeps. I’ll have to rent the movie now.
"I've met the Quissats Haderat. And Nobama aint't no Haderat."
Perhaps Obama is a MAD Haderat?
Do you mean Kwisatch haderach?
I’m surprised Hillary hasn’t latched onto
this. She could reverse the nomination if
she exposed his phony pedigree and vague
credentials.
All haderats go mad! It’s all that looking into the future and finding the golden path that get’s you.
Isn’t it the truth?
Amazing!
Kwisatch Haderach - yes! I always forget how
to spell it, so instead of looking it up, I spell it
phonetically. Give me a break ... I am only the
Shadat Mapes.
OK, let’s give this a try...I am Mensa qualified (143) and scored a 48 out of 50 on the old LSAT (the one Barack actually took), which was in the 97th percentile. Now that I have crowed about my credentials, since we applied to Law School the same year, I know something of the processes back then. Harvard still accepted the LSAT back then (though shortly thereafter it became optional). I don’t think the LSAT translates to IQ score or Mensa well.
Given all that, the tell tale evidence on Barack’s raw skills lies in the acceptance and matriculation to Occidental Collge in Los Angeles. Punahou is Hawaii’s best high school. The era was the height of affirmative action. If he had the goods back then, he could have easily done better than Occidental which is ranked by US News & World Reports on the much smaller Liberal Arts list at number 36 (list does not include the majors or the ivys). My guess is an IQ in the low 120s and an SAT between 1100-1200 (largely on the strength of the verbal) and an LSAT score between 39 and 41 (old test). That is where my smart, African American friends back in law school fell. One was a Princeton grad who may have actually been there with Michelle Obama (early to mid 80’s). It’d be interesting to see how close I am to pegging this.
OK, let’s give this a try...I am Mensa qualified (143) and scored a 48 out of 50 on the old LSAT (the one Barack actually took), which was in the 97th percentile. Now that I have crowed about my credentials, since we applied to Law School the same year, I know something of the processes back then. Harvard still accepted the LSAT back then (though shortly thereafter it became optional). I don’t think the LSAT translates to IQ score or Mensa well.
Given all that, the tell tale evidence on Barack’s raw skills lies in the acceptance and matriculation to Occidental Collge in Los Angeles. Punahou is Hawaii’s best high school. The era was the height of affirmative action. If he had the goods back then, he could have easily done better than Occidental which is ranked by US News & World Reports on the much smaller Liberal Arts list at number 36 (list does not include the majors or the ivys). My guess is an IQ in the low 120s and an SAT between 1100-1200 (largely on the strength of the verbal) and an LSAT score between 39 and 41 (old test). That is where my smart, African American friends back in law school fell. One was a Princeton grad who may have actually been there with Michelle Obama (early to mid 80’s). It’d be interesting to see how close I am to pegging this.
OK, let’s give this a try...I am Mensa qualified (143) and scored a 48 out of 50 on the old LSAT (the one Barack actually took), which was in the 97th percentile. Now that I have crowed about my credentials, since we applied to Law School the same year, I know something of the processes back then. Harvard still accepted the LSAT back then (though shortly thereafter it became optional). I don’t think the LSAT translates to IQ score or Mensa well.
Given all that, the tell tale evidence on Barack’s raw skills lies in the acceptance and matriculation to Occidental Collge in Los Angeles. Punahou is Hawaii’s best high school. The era was the height of affirmative action. If he had the goods back then, he could have easily done better than Occidental which is ranked by US News & World Reports on the much smaller Liberal Arts list at number 36 (list does not include the majors or the ivys). My guess is an IQ in the low 120s and an SAT between 1100-1200 (largely on the strength of the verbal) and an LSAT score between 39 and 41 (old test). That is where my smart, African American friends back in law school fell. One was a Princeton grad who may have actually been there with Michelle Obama (early to mid 80’s). It’d be interesting to see how close I am to pegging this.
You lose 3 points for triple posting!
It’s not good to know your own IQ. I once learned mine and since then have felt like an underachiever.
However, I agree with the point that MENSA is raw intelligence only. Some (or many) of MENSA members are dumb as ditch water when it comes to real-world functioning. (Been there, done that, bought the T-shirt.)
Congressman Billybob
First four in the series, "American Government: The Owner's Manual" are here, and also on FR
I’m teasing of course, but why do you mensa folks post your messages three times? ;-)
I enjoyed your post. I share your interest in knowing more about Obama’s credentials.
Sailer doesn't offer a number for Obama, but the commenters discuss it. One comment, taking issue with another's estimate of 120, remarked:
Law school grades are incredibly correlated with IQ. It's nothing like grades in college classes. It would be incredibly difficult for someone with a 120 IQ to be Magna at HLS as Obama was.Don't have the numbers for Obama's class, but Harvard has always been an elite law school. The most recent LSAT data reports a 25th/75th percentile split of 169-175. A 169 is 97.55 and a 175 is 99.67. Those are percentiles of people who take the LSAT; ie, college graduates planning on going to law school. Law school grades are strictly curved and based on hihgly g-loaded blindly graded "issue spotting" exams. I really cannot emphasize enough how different this is from simply getting As as a political science undergrad.
Obama was in the top quarter of his class at ruthlessly competitive Harvard Law School. It's impossible to argue he's not very bright. He's not just eloquent or charismatic.
[... Woodrow Wilson’s IQ was possibly the highest of any President, and he
gave us the income tax, the Fed, US entry into WWI, the League of Nations ...]
And more...
UNION THUGGERY ... Clayton Anti-Trust Act allowed important labor tools like strikes, pickets, and boycotts (1914)
PROHIBITION ... Eighteenth Amendment ratified prohibiting alcoholic beverages (1919)
UNION THUGGERY ... Nineteenth Amendment ratified giving women the right to vote (1920)
I saw the Steve Sailer blog as well.
I’m just sayin’... if he has an IQ
score, why not just report it?
I am generally unimpressed with Obama’s scholarship. As best I can determine, there is not a whole lot of there there. Whenever Bambi talks about a subject I know well, it becomes evident that he does not know what he is talking about.
The punditocracy is confusing his gift of gab and ability to read off a teleprompter with high-level intelligence. FGS, Al Sharpton has a gift of gab. I would not count on either one to solve any problem involving public safety.
I would guess Bambi’s IQ to be in the 120-130 range.
I have read Michelle’s thesis. Why anyone considers her brilliant is lost on me. Besides, she has said one dumb thing after another on the campaign trail.
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