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Columbus debunker sets sights on Leonardo da Vinci
Reuters ^ | Jul 28, 2008 | Tim Castle

Posted on 07/28/2008 6:04:40 PM PDT by decimon

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To: Kevmo
This propaganda will work it's way into the Chinese text books. Chinese children will be taught that there is nothing in the West to emulate, that all so-called Western achievemnents were stolen from the Chinese.
21 posted on 07/28/2008 7:51:40 PM PDT by JC85
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Let's see...what we have here is a political ideology that evokes a mythical golden age and exalts a rabid nationalism.

If only we had a word for this.

22 posted on 07/28/2008 7:51:41 PM PDT by JC85
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To: decimon
I got about two hundred pages into this book...

I'm pretty certain Menzies is a crackpot.

23 posted on 07/28/2008 7:53:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: 12Gauge687

“The two words in Chinese, jung guo, actually mean Middle Kingdom”

Personally, I think the phrase is better translated, “The Kingdom at the Center of the Universe.” That captures the spirit and intent much better, I think.


24 posted on 07/28/2008 8:10:51 PM PDT by dsc
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To: 12Gauge687

Certainly in the “modern” view, there were countries on the map, and China never traded with Egypt, they were too primitive “back then” to actually talk and trade and exchange ideas...which is bunk of course.

Even the Romans had trade relations with India for example, as did the Caliphates with the Far East...

As I recall, the large trading centers in Western China ended up succumbing to desert encroachment.


25 posted on 07/28/2008 8:12:30 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Romans 10.10/Eze 11.2)
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To: decimon

Chinese scientists also invented electricity and light bulbs, but the dastardly lamp oil industrial complex stole the patents and buried them to keep their monopoly.


26 posted on 07/28/2008 8:54:14 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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Reminds me of this piece:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040804135444/http://www.mepc.org/public_asp/workshops/musexpl.asp

Before Columbus, there were—or so we are told— natives in the Americas who amazingly spoke Arabic.


27 posted on 07/28/2008 8:55:01 PM PDT by JC85
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First publish propaganda in pseudo-scholarly forums. Then quote the material in textbooks.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/04/liberal-high-school-text-book-claims.html


28 posted on 07/28/2008 8:55:04 PM PDT by JC85
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To: decimon

a chinese fleet going to ITaly would certainly have to take thte long way around. there was no direct sea route to china back then - they’d have to go around the horn, at the very least. than find the relatively narrow gap at gibraltar and enter the mediterranean and finally come up against italy - whilst missing every other landfall.

sure.


29 posted on 07/29/2008 7:16:20 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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a chinese fleet going to ITaly would certainly have to take thte long way around. there was no direct sea route to china back then - they’d have to go around the horn, at the very least. than find the relatively narrow gap at gibraltar and enter the mediterranean and finally come up against italy - whilst missing every other landfall.

They'd have had to make stops along the way to find provisions. As you indicate, why Italy and why Venice? Spain and/or north Africa should have warranted visits.

30 posted on 07/29/2008 7:28:50 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

funny how nobody else saw them.


31 posted on 07/29/2008 8:04:01 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: grey_whiskers
Anti-Chinese-suckup-revisionism Sarcasm Torpedo...

"Anti-Chinese-suckup-revisionism Sarcasm Torpedo"? You are quite imaginative.

32 posted on 07/29/2008 11:33:42 AM PDT by ponder life
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I’ll bet he has a Chinese Honey he wants to impress.


33 posted on 07/29/2008 6:33:21 PM PDT by happygrl
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You nailed it.

I've read that 90% of the so-called "genocide" in the Western Hemisphere was actually disease.

The reduction of the natives also included a large amount of interbreeding. Apparently there is little of the original Y chromosome in North America natives, and the Rio Grande south are largely Mestizo populations, with pockets of Europeans and Indians.

34 posted on 07/29/2008 6:45:11 PM PDT by happygrl
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This topic was posted 7/28/2008, thanks decimon.
More Chinese junk, just not the ship kind. No one asked, but I'm really glad Menzies is dead.
And don't even start with the "Marco Polo never went to China" horse****, 'kay?

36 posted on 10/23/2021 9:45:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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