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Tropical Storm Fay
NOAA/NHC ^ | 15 August 2008 | NOAA/NHC

Posted on 08/15/2008 1:25:37 PM PDT by NautiNurse

The tropical system currently over Hispanola has been teasing weather watchers for days, as hurricane hunters were unable to locate a surface center of circulation. Meanwhile, the system has looked remarkably like a tropical depression for greater than 24 hours. Local Florida weather forecasters are urging Floridians to keep a close eye on this system.

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Atlantic Tropical Info

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Storm Track Models

Category Wind Speed Barometric Pressure Storm Surge Damage Potential
Tropical
Depression
< 39 mph
< 34 kts
    Minimal
Tropical
Storm
39 - 73 mph
34 - 63 kts
    Minimal
Hurricane 1
(Weak)
74 - 95 mph
64 - 82 kts
28.94" or more
980.02 mb or more
4.0' - 5.0'
1.2 m - 1.5 m
Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2
(Moderate)
96 - 110 mph
83 - 95 kts
28.50" - 28.93"
965.12 mb - 979.68 mb
6.0' - 8.0'
1.8 m - 2.4 m
Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3
(Strong)
111 - 130 mph
96 - 112 kts
27.91" - 28.49"
945.14 mb - 964.78 mb
9.0' - 12.0'
2.7 m - 3.7 m
Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4
(Very strong)
131 - 155 mph
113 - 135 kts
27.17" - 27.90"
920.08 mb - 944.80 mb
13.0' - 18.0'
3.9 m - 5.5 m
Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5
(Devastating)
Greater than 155 mph
Greater than 135 kts
Less than 27.17"
Less than 920.08 mb
Greater than 18.0'
Greater than 5.5m
Catastrophic building failures possible


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: alabama; fay; florida; georgia; invest92; mississippi; noaa; tropical; tsfay; weather
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To: NautiNurse

It’s marvelous having this real time imaging of the storm; since it is still rather new it’s hard to compare to older storms but I can’t remember a storm staying so concentrated over land before; all the models have it crossing into Cuba and exiting only for a short time over warm, regenerative waters before making landfall again in the Keys and the mainland.

Bunches of rain, at least.


201 posted on 08/16/2008 5:29:24 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: NautiNurse

Two important notes there... westward motion continues, despite predictions of more northerly component beginning. The storm has slowed... allowing more time to re-organize near that super heat content. I think chances are getting better of seeing some real intensification south of Cuba.


202 posted on 08/16/2008 5:39:36 PM PDT by nwctwx
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To: NautiNurse
I wish Fay would make her ditzy mind up. I'm down here in St. Augustine this weekend, and I was beginning to worry that she was gonna ruin the vacation. Now, it looks like our house in 'Bama is going to get wet one way or the other - I'd just like to know how close the center will pass.

203 posted on 08/16/2008 5:57:56 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Barak Obama is as inept as a bear cub with his dink.)
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To: rodguy911
a Pridam Singh project ... he gives lawyers and developers a bad name

the last city engineer was degreed in chemical engineering ... it's a rather corrupt little island and it competes for corruption with the rest of the county

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204 posted on 08/16/2008 5:59:47 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: rodguy911
this isn't big enough to worry about .. yet ... I was on Cudjoe when Georges hit .... there is a good reason they build those houses on stilts on the north side of the key .... LOL

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205 posted on 08/16/2008 6:05:11 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee

problems galore ,you are right.


206 posted on 08/16/2008 6:13:09 PM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: Elle Bee
Yeah for sure one of my best friends finally had enough. He still has a place on Cudjoe Bay but after getting flooded numerous times he put it up for sale.
207 posted on 08/16/2008 6:14:21 PM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: rodguy911

Tropical Storm Public Advisory

Statement as of 11:00 PM EDT on August 16, 2008

...Fay expected to strengthen on Sunday...

A Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect for Cuba from the
province of Sancti Spiritus eastward to Guantanamo...and also for
Cayman Brac and Little Cayman.

A Hurricane Watch remains in effect for Cuba from the province of
Matanzas eastward to Sancti Spiritus.

A tropical storm watch remains in effect for the central Bahamas...
Jamaica...and the Cayman Islands.

At 11 PM EDT...0300 UTC...the Tropical Storm Warning for Haiti has
been discontinued.

Interests in western Cuba...the Florida Keys...and the Florida
Peninsula should monitor the progress of this system.

For storm information specific to your area...including possible
inland watches and warnings...please monitor products issued
by your local weather office.

At 1100 PM EDT...0300 UTC...the center of Tropical Storm Fay was
located near latitude 19.4 north...longitude 76.3 west or about 175
miles...280 km...southeast of Camaguey Cuba and about 100 miles...
165 km...north-northeast of Kingston Jamaica.

Fay is moving toward the west near 14 mph...22 km/hr. A gradual turn
toward the west-northwest and northwest with a decrease in forward
speed is expected during the next couple of days. On this
track...the center of Fay will continue to move near or over the
southern coast of eastern and central Cuba Sunday...and will be
near or over western Cuba Sunday night or Monday.

Maximum sustained winds are near 45 mph...75 km/hr...with higher
gusts. Some strengthening is forecast during the next 24 hours and
Fay could be approaching hurricane strength as it nears western
Cuba.

Tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 105 miles...165 km
from the center. Guantanamo Cuba recently reported sustained winds
of 44 mph...71 km/hr with gusts to 52 mph...83 km/hr. Rainbands
associated with Fay are affecting the Bahamas and are approaching
the Florida Straits.

Estimated minimum central pressure is 1005 mb...29.68 inches.

Tides of 1 to 3 feet feet above normal can be expected in the
warning area in areas of onshore flow.

Fay is expected to produce total rainfall accumulations of 4 to 8
inches over Haiti...eastern and central Cuba...Jamaica...and
the northern Cayman Islands...with isolated maximum amounts of 15
inches. These rains could produce life-threatening flash floods
and mud slides. Rainfall accumulations of 1 to 3 inches are
possible over Grand Cayman and over the central and southeastern
Bahamas.

Repeating the 1100 PM EDT position...19.4 N...76.3 W. Movement
toward...west near 14 mph. Maximum sustained winds...45 mph.
Minimum central pressure...1005 mb.

An intermediate advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane
Center at 200 am EDT followed by the next complete advisory at 500
am EDT.

$$
Forecaster Avila


208 posted on 08/16/2008 7:47:45 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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Tropical Storm Fay Discussion Number 6

Statement as of 11:00 PM EDT on August 16, 2008

a reconnaissance plane spent several hours earlier this afternoon in
Fay and found that the cyclone has a well defined circulation with
the area of strongest winds to the north and east of the center. In
fact...Guantanamo Cuba recently reported sustained winds of 38
knots and gusts to 45 knots. Initial intensity is set at 40 knots.
Satellite images indicate that the cloud pattern is gradually
becoming better organized after being disrupted by the high
mountains of Hispaniola. Fay has a large envelope with plenty of
convection and well-established upper-level outflow. Surrounding
surface pressures have fallen on the order of 5 mb since
yesterday...and in general this is an indication of development.
All these factors suggest strengthening. However...the rate of
intensification depends on how close to land the center moves...and
if Fay is able to develop an inner core. At this time...the
official forecast calls for a modest strengthening. If Fay remains
over water it could reach the coast of central Cuba as
a hurricane...but this is most likely to occur in the southeastern
Gulf of Mexico as indicated in the forecast. It is interesting to
note that the HWRF and GFDL models are no longer indicating an
aggressive intensification in the most recent run.

Fixes from a reconnaissance plane and data from Cuban radars
indicate that Fay is moving toward the west or 275 degrees at 12
knots. Fay is already reaching the southwestern edge of the
subtropical ridge so a gradual turn to the northwest is expected
during the next 24 to 36 hours. This will be followed by a
northward turn around the western edge of the high. On this
track...Fay should be moving very close to the South Coast of Cuba
for the next day or so...and then it should move northward over the
extreme eastern Gulf of Mexico very near or over the west Florida
coast. Track guidance has not changed significantly...and most of
the models are in extremely good agreement for the next 48 hours.
The spread becomes much larger beyond 48 hours with some models
bringing Fay over Florida and others keeping it over the Gulf of
Mexico. The official forecast is on top of the consensus...which is
in the middle of the guidance envelope.

On this track...watches may be required early Sunday for portions of
South Florida and the Florida Keys.

Forecast positions and Max winds

initial 17/0300z 19.4n 76.3w 40 kt
12hr VT 17/1200z 20.0n 78.0w 45 kt
24hr VT 18/0000z 21.5n 80.0w 55 kt
36hr VT 18/1200z 23.0n 81.5w 50 kt...inland
48hr VT 19/0000z 24.5n 82.0w 60 kt
72hr VT 20/0000z 27.8n 82.5w 70 kt
96hr VT 21/0000z 31.0n 82.5w 35 kt...inland
120hr VT 22/0000z 34.0n 82.5w 25 kt...inland

$$
forecaster Avila


209 posted on 08/16/2008 7:48:45 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: NautiNurse

Thanks NN,Ive got half the house shuttered, my wife said it’s too dark. I have to wait for the other half.
My plan is to close one shutter take a sip, close another take another sip, etc etc.


210 posted on 08/16/2008 7:55:29 PM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: rodguy911; Elle Bee
Ive got half the house shuttered, my wife said it’s too dark. I have to wait for the other half.

Take the plunge and treat yourself to kevlar hurricane screens for at least a few of the windows. They are a tad expensive, but you can see through them--and they are easy to put up/take down. I got terribly depressed with the windows shuttered for weeks during 2004.

I've pinged Elle Bee, 'cause that's who sold me on them. An excellent investment.

211 posted on 08/16/2008 8:05:32 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: NautiNurse
OFF TOPIC: MICHAEL PHELPS makes Olympic history!!!!! Talk about churned waters....!!!!
212 posted on 08/16/2008 8:15:55 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: yield 2 the right

Yes, we interrupted hurricane prep schedule to watch the Olympics tonight. Phelps is certainly a humble gentleman. I got chills watching the Phelps Phans in Raven’s Stadium in Baltimore.


213 posted on 08/16/2008 8:31:51 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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Tropical Storm Public Advisory

Statement as of 2:00 am EDT on August 17, 2008

...Fay strengthens slightly as it turns west-northwestward...

a Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect for Cuba from the
province of Sancti Spiritus eastward to Guantanamo...and also for
Cayman Brac and Little Cayman.

A Hurricane Watch remains in effect for Cuba from the province of
Matanzas eastward to Sancti Spiritus.

A tropical storm watch remains in effect for the central Bahamas...
Jamaica...and the Cayman Islands.

Interests in western Cuba...the Florida Keys...and the Florida
Peninsula should monitor the progress of this system.

For storm information specific to your area...including possible
inland watches and warnings...please monitor products issued
by your local weather office.

At 200 am EDT...0600 UTC...the center of Tropical Storm Fay was
located near latitude 19.6 north...longitude 76.8 west or about 140
miles...230 km...south-southeast of Camaguey Cuba.

Fay is moving toward the west-northwest near 12 mph...20 km/hr. A
turn to the northwest with a decrease in forward speed is expected
within the next 24 hours...with a turn to the north-northwest
expected on Monday. Fay is expected to be moving very near the
South Coast of Cuba today...cross central Cuba Sunday night...and
emerge into the southeastern Gulf of Mexico or Florida Straits on
Monday.

Maximum sustained winds are near 50 mph...85 km/hr...with higher
gusts. Some strengthening is forecast during the next 24 hours and
Fay could be near hurricane strength when it reaches central
Cuba.

Tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 105 miles...165 km
from the center.

Estimated minimum central pressure is 1004 mb...29.65 inches.

Tides of 1 to 3 feet feet above normal can be expected in the
warning area in areas of onshore flow.

Fay is expected to produce total rainfall accumulations of 4 to 8
inches over Haiti...eastern and central Cuba...Jamaica...and
the northern Cayman Islands...with isolated maximum amounts of 15
inches. These rains could produce life-threatening flash floods
and mud slides. Rainfall accumulations of 1 to 3 inches are
possible over Grand Cayman and over the central and southeastern
Bahamas.

Repeating the 200 am EDT position...19.6 N...76.8 W. Movement
toward...west-northwest near 12 mph. Maximum sustained winds...50
mph. Minimum central pressure...1004 mb.

The next advisory will be issued by the National
Hurricane Center at 500 am EDT.

$$
Forecaster Franklin/Rhome


214 posted on 08/16/2008 10:57:41 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: NautiNurse

NHC advisory 6a puts the wind at 50 mph.


215 posted on 08/16/2008 11:04:08 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: NautiNurse; nwctwx
We’re on the coast.

I am in Ocala, which is due to get nearly a direct (inland) hit.

216 posted on 08/16/2008 11:19:16 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Current track indicates a direct hit here too. I was hoping to get some rest...then I noted the tide schedule for Tuesday. It’s a remarkably high tide following the full moon. High tides for Sarasota to Tampa Bay will be Tuesday afternoon.


217 posted on 08/16/2008 11:34:57 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: NautiNurse
Keeping you Florida Freepers in my prayers. Be safe.
218 posted on 08/16/2008 11:46:43 PM PDT by Pebcak
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To: Pebcak

bump


219 posted on 08/17/2008 1:40:43 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Seinfeld was a show about nothing - so is Obama.)
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To: NautiNurse

WE'RE DOOMED!

Now that that's off my chest, this trajectory, right up the West coast, is pretty unnerving. I mean, Wilma came at us from the West as well. Of course Wilma fed off the GOM before it arrived, but it was estimated at Cat 1, too, and look what we got.

I am truly hopeful the storm breaks up severely over Cuba's mountains.

Please be safe everyone. Thanks for the thread, Nautinurse, I'll be looking for followups. I'm still deciding whether to go fill my generator fuel supply or wait another day. I hate storing noxious substances.

220 posted on 08/17/2008 2:55:23 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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