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Are You Ready For A Gun Fight?
http://www.handgunsmag.com/ ^ | 060606 | Duane Thomas

Posted on 08/24/2008 9:29:35 AM PDT by B4Ranch

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To: AndyJackson
Special forces trained to deliver 1" accuracy headshots with a handgun at 20 yds after tenth second determination that the target deserves to die.

Nobody shoots more or practices harder than pro level practical shooters. Not even SF.

For the most part, the best special operators are trained by guys like Todd Jarrett, Bennie Cooley and Matt Burkett - guys that earned their credentials winning matches.

41 posted on 08/24/2008 12:53:00 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: B4Ranch

Good info. I was out of practice..time just got away from me. I didnt realize how rusty I had become till I was out shooting one day. It was an eye opener.


42 posted on 08/24/2008 12:53:08 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: Steel Wolf
That's inexcusably incompetent

But lucky for you...

43 posted on 08/24/2008 12:56:25 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: P8riot

LOL


44 posted on 08/24/2008 12:57:40 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: marktwain

I have been lucky enough to just show my HOLSTERED weapon and difuse the situation. Push the situation, forcing me draw it, then the odds are someone is going to get shot. The last thing I want is to have my revolver in my hand and for it NOT to be pointed at some, about to recoil. If I allow the threat to get that close and haven’t killed him, that would indicate someone else has done it for me.


45 posted on 08/24/2008 1:05:15 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: B4Ranch
Posted by B4Ranch:

“I have been lucky enough to just show my HOLSTERED weapon and difuse the situation. Push the situation, forcing me draw it, then the odds are someone is going to get shot. The last thing I want is to have my revolver in my hand and for it NOT to be pointed at some, about to recoil. If I allow the threat to get that close and haven’t killed him, that would indicate someone else has done it for me.”


From marktwain:

I am glad that you were able to avoid a shooting. It is the more common experience. In a number of states, however, just showing that you have a firearm can be effectively the same as “brandishing”. I put “brandishing” in quotes because we do not have a “brandishing” statute in Arizona, but there probably is a state that has such.

One thing that has stood out to me in the past several years is this: Criminals lie. There is a disturbing trend for criminals, when thwarted in a crime, to call the police and complain about how someone with a gun threatened them. Montana and Arizona have put forward legislation to redress this issue by explicitly making it legal to display a firearm in the act of self defense. I do not believe that this legislation has yet passed in either state.

Displaying a gun can have consequences, but we always have to weigh the benefits and costs.

46 posted on 08/24/2008 1:15:19 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: B4Ranch
I'm a 1, 2, 3 and 5. Never have done 4.

Where does that leave me in the mix?

47 posted on 08/24/2008 1:23:25 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe

Duane Thomas would be the one to ask, not me.


48 posted on 08/24/2008 1:32:36 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: B4Ranch

Righteous rage. Beautiful when harnassed with lethal force.


49 posted on 08/24/2008 1:38:27 PM PDT by IGOTMINE (1911s FOREVER!)
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To: B4Ranch

You can effectively practice at a regular outdoor range. The whole idea that you have to be a Navy Seal to defend yourself is just plain stupid BS.


50 posted on 08/24/2008 1:48:50 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: B4Ranch

No offense, but threads like this typically bring out the mall-ninja types. So far it looks like it’s going OK.


51 posted on 08/24/2008 1:51:24 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: AndyJackson

Those first person shooter PlayStation games are a lot of fun.


52 posted on 08/24/2008 1:57:52 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: JillValentine

Yes, and ammo is a funny thing too. Using too little can get you into trouble. Use too much and well.......


53 posted on 08/24/2008 2:00:22 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: B4Ranch

“Burglars and robbers are not going to step on the kids noisemaking toys twice. You only get one warning when things go wrong. If you hear the WRONG sound when you should NOT be hearing it consider that your ONE AND ONLY WARNING. That’s when you have to act. Are you prepared to do so?”

Um... Yes. If someone breaks into my house I’m quite prepared to act. That’s a damned dumb question.

What do I win?


54 posted on 08/24/2008 2:01:06 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: B4Ranch

“If you pull your weapon out and don’t fire it, in most cases that’s likely to be considered brandishng.”

... which is exactly the right action in some situations. Brandishing a legal firearm isn’t illegal if you are threatened with bodily harm.


55 posted on 08/24/2008 2:04:07 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Poser

>What do I win?<

The freedom to keep breathing until the next thug steps up and thinks you are too cool.


56 posted on 08/24/2008 2:07:38 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: Poser

True but the right DA can make you prove you were threatened with bodily harm. Can’t prove it. Oh dear, there goes your ticket to carry concealed.


57 posted on 08/24/2008 2:09:23 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: B4Ranch

“The freedom to keep breathing until the next thug steps up and thinks you are too cool.”

If you pull your weapon, you need to be prepared to use it. It isn’t a requirement. I would prefer not to kill anyone, but if I have to fire, it’s going to be 4 rounds: two rounds to the chest, one to the groin and one to the head. Then I’ll stop shooting and reassess the situation.


58 posted on 08/24/2008 2:12:12 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: B4Ranch

“True but the right DA can make you prove you were threatened with bodily harm.”

I seem to remember something about being judged by 12 men instead of being carried by 6. If you are pulling a gun in a situation where the threat isn’t obvious, you shouldn’t be pulling a gun. If you pull a gun in an obvious self defense situation and the DA prosecutes, you should have moved out of Massachusetts much sooner.


59 posted on 08/24/2008 2:15:31 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: B4Ranch

The shotgun and pistols are where I can find them in the dark. The only ones in the house are the dogs and me and I doubt they can jack a round in. A bear did try to get in one night and the next day I got the shotgun out, Slugs and 00 alternating for unexpected intrusion.


60 posted on 08/24/2008 3:02:44 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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