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FR Gun Club - House guns
8/25/08

Posted on 08/25/2008 3:58:21 AM PDT by sig226

When most of us think of a house gun, we think of a gun that sits in the house. I like the ones that cost as much as a house. So far, the best collection I've seen is at DeWing's in West Palm Beach, Florida. I was driving around the city and I saw a sign that said, "Gun Store." Well, I've got to go in there.
DeWing's

Here's a nice Boss 28/410 gauge set.

Only $370,000.00.

This David Brown 28 gauge is only $85,000.00, if you prefer a condo gun.

Beretta has a gallery in New York City, and another one in Dallas.
Berreta Gallery

An SO9 runs around $50,000.00 right now, so I can only guess what an SO10 EELL (EELL is the highest grade) might cost. An SO6 EELL is also less than the SO10, I think. Beretta does not post prices. I assume this is because if you have to ask, you can't afford it.

If you prefer a truck gun, you can always visit with Griffin and Howe in Bernardsville, New Jersey, or Greenwich, Connecticut. Several of their offerings cost as much as a nice F-350. They also have a couple of Stoegers on the list, so if you'd like to visit, you might actually buy something.
Griffin and Howe

They use large format images, so I won't post them here. There are some nice A.H. Fox guns, pre '64 Winchesters, and the like.

Of course, Cabella's also offers a selection of fine guns. This Merkel .470 Nitro Express double rifle is only $11,999.00

So if you're planning your next safari, or just can't figure out what to do with all the money Auntie Wilma left you in her will, I hope these links and pictures were helpful.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banglist; frgc; frgunclub
If you have links to similar stores, or pictures of some top shelf guns, please post them.
Enjoy. :)
1 posted on 08/25/2008 3:58:22 AM PDT by sig226
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To: CholeraJoe; Slip18; sig226; Shooter 2.5; Manly Warrior; DaveLoneRanger; Eaker; P8riot; ...

ping


2 posted on 08/25/2008 3:59:33 AM PDT by sig226 (Obama '08 - No, You Can't.)
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To: sig226

Wow, very nice! Now, where are those Freepers that are going to tell me that these guns are going to be taken out in the field to go hunting?


3 posted on 08/25/2008 4:04:07 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: sig226

Woof!..them sure are pretty.


4 posted on 08/25/2008 4:07:27 AM PDT by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: sig226

Don’t know about the hunting but we have had several Berettas that ran 30-40K in the gun corral at our fall Turkey Shoot for the Boy Scouts. The older the boys the more expensive their toys applies. Their are usually some family heirlooms present as well. The camp uses Berettas but they are the plain black ones the expensive ones are usually expensive because of their artistic beauty.


5 posted on 08/25/2008 4:26:51 AM PDT by scottteng (What ever happened to principles and self reliance?)
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To: caver

If I could afford such a gun comfortably, why not?

I know people that drive $80,000 cars around. I know people that drive $200,000 (and often more) motor homes around.

If you buy a gun for it’s artwork to put on the wall, buy a couple of paintings for the same price instead.

Especially the Nitro. I’d love to be able to afford it and pack it on a safari.


6 posted on 08/25/2008 4:32:59 AM PDT by Weya (Barack Hussein Obama hates the United States of America. No question about it.)
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To: sig226
Years ago (pre-Rudy,9/11,Bloomberg) I visited a custom shop in NYC (can't remember the name of it) that had some absolutely amazing custom guns that were in the $30K to $100K range (if I remember correctly). Unless I hit it really big, I'll never own anything like them.

That said, the most expensive weapon I own is a genuine, full auto H&K MP5SD3. It set me back over $10K about 5 yrs ago, now I see them being sold for almost twice that. If a $370K gun is considered a "house gun", I guess you consider mine a "used car gun."

7 posted on 08/25/2008 4:43:01 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: scottteng

I have seen some very expensive Berretta’s at the local Army post trap and skeet ranges. I have ehard the guys using them talk about spending $20K or more on the gun and than having it customized for them by a gunsmith. I guess that you are right about the older boys toys and their prices.


8 posted on 08/25/2008 4:43:47 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: caver

There’s hunting and then there’s shooting. If you were to book a date of grouse shooting in Scotland, you’d be driven to the field in a Land Rover and dropped off at your grouse butt. You’d stand and shoot as the drivers flushed the grouse toward the butts. The only danger to your guns (you’d probably be shooting a matched pair) would be if either you or your loader dropped one in the exchange (loading one’s own guns slows down the shooting, and who needs the bother anyway?).

Extra fancy Presentation type guns are probably destined to live their life in the display cabinet, but there are plenty of very expensive guns that are indeed shot in the field. If I were able to afford one, a David McKay Brown gun would at the top of my list.


9 posted on 08/25/2008 4:44:43 AM PDT by Stevenc131
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To: caver

There’s hunting and then there’s shooting. If you were to book a date of grouse shooting in Scotland, you’d be driven to the field in a Land Rover and dropped off at your grouse butt. You’d stand and shoot as the drivers flushed the grouse toward the butts. The only danger to your guns (you’d probably be shooting a matched pair) would be if either you or your loader dropped one in the exchange (loading one’s own guns slows down the shooting, and who needs the bother anyway?).

Extra fancy Presentation type guns are probably destined to live their life in the display cabinet, but there are plenty of very expensive guns that are indeed shot in the field. If I were able to afford one, a David McKay Brown gun would at the top of my list.


10 posted on 08/25/2008 4:44:48 AM PDT by Stevenc131
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To: caver

Actually I do know people who bird hunt (not just shoot) with their custom sidelock (generally, more reliable and complicated than boxlocks) shotguns. One anethesiologist I met a few years ago has a matched pair of side-by-side Piottis. Old man Piotti personally fitted the fellow for his guns. Each gun cost about $20,000.

The doctor has gone through North Woods alder in search of woodcock and ruffed grouse so the stock has already been scratched. The engraving on his guns is fairly simple but the wood is absolutely magnificent.

Although the doctor brought them to Scotland for a couple of driven shoots, his main focus is here in the States.


11 posted on 08/25/2008 5:11:30 AM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: sig226

My most expensive gun is a DU limited edition Browning O/U in 20 gauge. I have no idea how much it cost because I won it in a raffle. I doubt it even approaches these so maybe it’s a “tar paper shack” gun.


12 posted on 08/25/2008 5:18:12 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Just another event in the long series of bitter disappointments that has become my life.)
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To: sig226
wow...

I'll simply describe my best as 'Bob Villa specials'...

Ecept for great grandpappys ole single 12 guage, no money will buy that...

13 posted on 08/25/2008 5:44:10 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: sig226

Even the screws are engraved.


14 posted on 08/25/2008 6:07:39 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Truthism Watch)
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To: sig226

I can understand how a $300K sportscar would out perform my Silverado, but I can’t understand how a high priced shotgun can perform any better or different than my field gun.

My guns aren’t cheap, but they all see work.


15 posted on 08/25/2008 6:09:01 AM PDT by umgud
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To: sig226
Well, this costs a couple of houses, if the houses are in Detroit:

Mine's due in September, the scope in January, if my buddy can score a couple of Schmidt u Benders at the SHOT show.

16 posted on 08/25/2008 6:42:43 AM PDT by 300winmag (Deterrence is an activity, Destruction is a profession)
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To: umgud

Dittos ... I’m in the process of switching to .357 for revolver and a lever action rifle for ‘house guns’ using the same ammo. When loaded for home defense they will have hollow points in them, when on the range they will fire mostly .38 special round nose. Tools should be used but not abused.


17 posted on 08/25/2008 7:25:15 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: sig226
Boy, did I misread the title.

To me, 'House Gun' is the carry gun is currently sitting on the night stand, or the shotgun hiding behind the cabinet, or the 'Ugly Stick' (Hi-Point 9mm Carbine) in the basement.

$370K for a gun! Wow. I am such a bottom-feeder. ;)

18 posted on 08/25/2008 7:33:00 AM PDT by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: MHGinTN

I’m not sure what I’d consider my “house gun.” I try to keep at least one in each room!


19 posted on 08/25/2008 7:33:42 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: kAcknor
"I am such a bottom-feeder."

I'm regularly called a "basement dweller." I prefer the term, "guardian of the foundation."

20 posted on 08/25/2008 7:36:25 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: 300winmag

couple houses in detroit? so that’s a $100 gun? :P


21 posted on 08/25/2008 7:57:19 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: sig226

http://www.hollandandholland.com/~newyork/index.htm

h&h guns. very nice.


22 posted on 08/25/2008 7:58:36 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: MHGinTN
I’m in the process of switching to .357 for revolver and a lever action rifle for ‘house guns’ using the same ammo.

Good plan.

23 posted on 08/25/2008 8:00:48 AM PDT by umgud
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To: Joe 6-pack

Ever met a “caveman”?


24 posted on 08/25/2008 8:11:46 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: B4Ranch
"Ever met a “caveman”?

Troglodyte has a much nicer ring to it ;-)

25 posted on 08/25/2008 8:31:32 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: sig226
At $11,000 each, the new semiauto versions of the German WWII FG42 are at least the cost of a good cabin, if not a full-sized house. And that's also pretty close to what an H&K PSG-1 costs, so one cased in either hand would indeed be a couple of pricy handfulls for such no-frills shooters. I suppose someone out there will have one engraved, but I can't really see it.

The new price of the semi automatic FG42 is $10,000.00 plus 10% federal excise tax plus shipping and insurance to the buyers FFL holder.

I've always thought that custom engraving was more fitting on handguns, though I've never owned one meself. The closest I've ever come, or care to come again, is the nice look of a Renaissance Browning Hi-Power.


26 posted on 08/25/2008 9:06:35 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: Joe 6-pack; B4Ranch
"Ever met a “caveman”?

Troglodyte has a much nicer ring to it ;-)

Let's take the average caveman, at home, listening to his stereo....

27 posted on 08/25/2008 9:10:49 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy; Joe 6-pack

“Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me, Bertha Butt.”

LOL


28 posted on 08/25/2008 9:25:24 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: archy

Why spend that much on a PSG-1, which fires 7.62, when you can spend less and get a Barrett, which fires .50?


29 posted on 08/25/2008 9:35:57 AM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: wastedyears
Why spend that much on a PSG-1, which fires 7.62, when you can spend less and get a Barrett, which fires .50?

If you want to kill a truck, or a fuel tank, or a satellite dish antenna at 1500 meters, yep, the Barrett is indeed the better choice. But if you want a better than 50% probability of hitting the truck driver, or the tech hooking up the antenna at the same range, and you have to carry your own rifle, and your ammo, and your food and water, and maybe a radio and some other useful novelties, the PSG-1 might be the way to go.

And certainly there are other semiauto sniper and target rifles that shoot as well or nearly as well as the PSG-1, some costing much less. But whether they will remain capable of that same level of accuracy after a thousand rounds, or 3000, or 5000 is something else again.

I know of three very capable and qualified shooters who have their choice of equipment, anything in the world, and they took PSG-1s as their semiauto. And I've known one of them since 1998, and though he shoots around a thousand a year through it, last year it still shot as well as it did ten years and circa 10,000 rounds ago.

30 posted on 08/25/2008 11:01:33 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy

Well that sounds like a trustworthy piece to have. What about the SR-25? If I had any choice of long-range semi-auto, that would probably be it, if only because it’s used by the SEALs.


31 posted on 08/25/2008 3:17:51 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: 300winmag

I know one guy who actually bought one of those things. It was a Lapua, too. We all looked at that little muzzle brake and even though it weighed 16 pounds, no thank you.

Have fun. :)


32 posted on 08/25/2008 5:47:04 PM PDT by sig226 (Obama '08 - No, You Can't.)
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To: sig226
We all looked at that little muzzle brake and even though it weighed 16 pounds, no thank you.

I have a Winchester 1886 in 45-90. It has the traditional curved "rifle butt", known even in those days as a "pain intensifier". Shot a lot of 500 gr cast bullets through it.

The welt on my shoulder, and the partial paralysis, only lasted a couple of days.

33 posted on 08/25/2008 6:30:33 PM PDT by 300winmag (Deterrence is an activity, Destruction is a profession)
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To: Joe 6-pack
"guardian of the foundation."

Ahh.. I like that. A touch of class in and amongst the roomsfull of $100 rifles.

34 posted on 08/25/2008 6:59:26 PM PDT by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: wastedyears
Well that sounds like a trustworthy piece to have. What about the SR-25? If I had any choice of long-range semi-auto, that would probably be it, if only because it’s used by the SEALs.

They have a great many novelties in their toybox, and the SR-25 is certainly one that was very highly thought of in that community. Lately, seems to be the big item on their want lists....

35 posted on 08/27/2008 9:37:41 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy

http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg41-e.htm

Beats the Mark 48 in rounds per minute.


36 posted on 08/27/2008 1:38:28 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: archy

Not quite a thousand yard rifle, but pretty damned close.

L

37 posted on 08/27/2008 1:49:51 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: wastedyears
http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg41-e.htm

Beats the Mark 48 in rounds per minute.

Just so. But it's not in 7,62 x 52mm NATO.

The equivalent Stoner gun would be the Stoner 62 LMG, which never reached large-scale production or adoption.

38 posted on 08/27/2008 2:49:17 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: sig226

Wish I had such a collection. I keep a basic Remington Express 12 Gauge within reach at all times at my place. Still deciding whether I should switch to 00 shot over the 1 shot I keep handy.


39 posted on 08/27/2008 2:54:20 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Lurker; Squantos
http://bp1.blogger.com/_Rbf_wKnsQ-c/R0iOHmC9VhI/AAAAAAAAAA8/4Nj6iZ16Bb4/S660/My+M1-A1.jpg

Not quite a thousand yard rifle, but pretty damned close.

L

The 7.62 NATO can do the job out to a thousand meters pretty well, and it looks like you've got enough glass on top to be able to see what you're doing out that far.

I once was out with a commanding officer of mine who had been snookered into a bet with a British Royal Marine veteran of the Falklands War who favoured the British L42A1, essentially a WWII #4 Lee-Enfield rebarrelled to 7,62 and topped with a 4x scope. The bet was on a leaky 5-gallon Jerrycan on the 1000 meter line: for every hit the Brit made my boss owed him a dollar; for every miss the Brit would pay him two.

Thirty-six dollars in the hole later, my boss called it quits. Two misses out of forty tries made it pretty clear that the RM shooter had things pretty well dialed in. And that was with the British 144-grain L2A1 ball ammo, not match loads.

With 175grain M118LR or Black Hills equivalent, you ought to be able to do about as well....

40 posted on 08/27/2008 3:02:40 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: sig226
And here I thought my $1800 Browning Ultra XS O/U was expensive.

The most expensive firearm I think I ever held was an original Henry. Looked like crap when the owner handed it to me, and told me NOT to drop it. (I had already handled a pristine looking one and no such warning was given.) I sorta gave him a funny look; he stated that it was used at the battle of the Little Big Horn - by the winning side! Which explained why it looked like crap. I mean the crap part was all the decorations on it, most of which appeared to be upholstery tacks.

41 posted on 08/27/2008 3:15:28 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: archy
who favoured the British L42A1, essentially a WWII #4 Lee-Enfield rebarrelled to 7,62 and topped with a 4x scope.

I did something very similar to an Ishapore Enfield I bought a few years back. Put a synthetic 'sporter' stock on it, had a gunsmith drill and tap it, smooth up the trigger a bit, and then topped it with a decent 4 power glass.

While I haven't had the chance to work it out at 1K meters, at 400 yards I've had no trouble ringing an old 10 inch cast iron skillet like a church bell.

I wish I'd bought half a dozen of those Ishies...

L

42 posted on 08/28/2008 7:16:58 AM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: archy
and it looks like you've got enough glass on top to be able to see what you're doing out that far.

The glass is an original Springfield Armory rangefinding scope. I know they had a rep for 'poor quality', but I haven't had any issues with mine.

Maybe I got lucky.

L

43 posted on 08/28/2008 8:18:32 AM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: Lurker
I did something very similar to an Ishapore Enfield I bought a few years back. Put a synthetic 'sporter' stock on it, had a gunsmith drill and tap it, smooth up the trigger a bit, and then topped it with a decent 4 power glass.

The Brits beworked their #4s a bit differently than the Indians did, using a stamped sheet-metal ejector spotwelded to the magazine body rather than the original Enfield screw-in ejector. The rimless 7,62 Nato cartridge was not what the Enfield was designed for....

I wish I'd bought half a dozen of those Ishies...

There are still some around to be had, though not at the remarkably low prices for which they once could be obtained. And now I can pick up Youg M48 Mausers for what an Ishapore 2A runs.

I've always preferred the #4, mostly for personal reasons, though the headspace adjustment via different sized bolt heads is a nice touch, and the #4 is a bit easier to fit with a scope mount.

44 posted on 08/29/2008 2:39:35 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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