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Why the FairTax benefits Seniors
Americans For Fair Taxation ^

Posted on 09/15/2008 4:25:21 PM PDT by Man50D

The FairTax ensures Social Security’s soundness by funding it with a progressive, broad-based national retail sales tax, rather than the current regressive, narrow payroll tax.

The FairTax rebate zeros the retail taxation of necessities, up to poverty-level spending, for seniors.

The FairTax repeals the taxation of Social Security benefits and adjusts Social Security indexing to protect seniors.

The FairTax ends all record keeping and income tax filings of any kind for seniors, totally insulating them from the high costs and abusive tactics of tax preparers.

The FairTax does not tax used goods, giving low-income seniors choices.

The FairTax reduces manufacturers’, services’, and retailers’ costs, allowing them to lower costs to seniors.

The FairTax delivers a tax holiday on IRAs and other tax-deferred plans.

The FairTax ends gift and estate taxes, along with all of the unfairness to heirs and complex planning for those who earned the money.

The FairTax allows seniors to sell their homes and pay no capital gains taxes.

The FairTax generates an economic boom, which eases future budget pressure on seniors’ entitlements.

The FairTax lowers average remaining lifetime tax rates.

The FairTax ensures your grandchildren have the same opportunity you did.


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1 posted on 09/15/2008 4:25:21 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: Taxman; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; Jaysun; Bigun; PeteB570; FBD; ...
Fair Tax ping!


2 posted on 09/15/2008 4:26:03 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D
The FairTax lowers average remaining lifetime tax rates.

This is only true for those who currently pay taxes. If someone is cheating now - the nrst will increase the taxes they pay! LOL

3 posted on 09/15/2008 4:39:56 PM PDT by Principled (Vaporize the "Divide and Conquer" taxes - Have everyone pay the same marginal rate!. NRST!)
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To: Man50D

The socalled FT is NOT fair to seasoned citizens who have actually saved to take care of themselves. Saying otherwise is 0bama speak.


4 posted on 09/15/2008 4:41:30 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Palin for President! (PUMA))
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To: Man50D

The UN Fair sales tax will tax the seniors saved money that has already been taxed in the past. That is when you go to purchase something it will add a 37%+ tax to the item purchased, plus the state sales tax.

Somehow, I don’t believe the politicians will ever give up the cash cow that allows the government to confiscate your money before you even see it. (payroll withholding tax)


5 posted on 09/15/2008 4:47:32 PM PDT by chainsaw ( No racist radical Muslims in the WH)
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To: Paladin2
The socalled FT is NOT fair to seasoned citizens who have actually saved to take care of themselves. Saying otherwise is 0bama speak.

Much of those so called savings are taxed either as capital gains, income dividends or from a savings account. The Fair Tax will abolish taxes on those sources of income enabling them to be true methods for savings. That's straight talk.
6 posted on 09/15/2008 4:49:24 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: chainsaw
The UN Fair sales tax will tax the seniors saved money that has already been taxed in the past.

They're being taxed now on captial gains, income dividends, savings accounts etc... Not to mention the embedded corporate taxes the consumer pays in every item they purchase. That will end with The Fair Tax.
7 posted on 09/15/2008 4:55:12 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D
The UNFairTax ends all record keeping and income tax filings of any kind for seniors, totally insulating them from the high costs and abusive tactics of tax preparers.

The UNFairTax rebate zeros the retail taxation of necessities, up to poverty-level spending, for seniors.

double speak. A rebate denotes that you have to file a form to get your money back.

8 posted on 09/15/2008 4:55:30 PM PDT by chainsaw ( No racist radical Muslims in the WH)
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To: Man50D

No, they are previously taxed savings now taxed as spending. To indicate otherwise is BS.


9 posted on 09/15/2008 4:59:10 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Palin for President! (PUMA))
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To: chainsaw
A rebate denotes that you have to file a form to get your money back.

Let's see now filling out one form with The Fair Tax or continue to fill out a multitude of forms under the income tax that require every detail of personal information. Only one of the small number who benefits from such an invasive process would choose the latter.
10 posted on 09/15/2008 5:06:04 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Principled
The FairTax lowers average remaining lifetime tax rates.
This is only true for those who currently pay taxes.
Really? What would the lifetime rate of the Fairtax be?...and while you're at it what will the lifetime rate of the income taxes be?
11 posted on 09/15/2008 6:28:37 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Principled
The FairTax lowers average remaining lifetime tax rates.
This is only true for those who currently pay taxes.
Really? What would the lifetime rate of the Fairtax be?...and while you're at it what will the lifetime rate of the income taxes be?
12 posted on 09/15/2008 6:28:43 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Man50D
The FairTax holds many benefits for seniors, not the least of which is that it untaxes withdrawals that seniors are forced to take out of IRA's at age 70 1/2.

But the anti's will be along telling us that the FairTax won't work because it unfairly taxes the old geezers.

Never mind that they are living off of the younger work force as it is.

13 posted on 09/15/2008 7:10:18 PM PDT by groanup ("Always buy stocks after a spectacular bankruptcy")
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To: groanup
The FairTax holds many benefits for seniors, not the least of which is that it untaxes withdrawals that seniors are forced to take out of IRA's at age 70 1/2.
No it doesn't. Even before one dime is withdrawn, whether they spend it or invest it, the face value of all their assets would be reduced 23% day one of the Fairtax. Can you say hidden tax?
Never mind that they are living off of the younger work force as it is.
Poor you, everyone but you is making out fine. But they can't do it unless they're screwing someone else huh! Like Ins. sales, tax accountants, seniors with IRA's.
14 posted on 09/15/2008 10:33:02 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Principled
If someone is cheating now - the nrst will increase the taxes they pay! LOL

If someone is cheating, that someone should be prosecuted. BTW, you can tell that to Rep Charlie Rangel.

15 posted on 09/16/2008 5:15:57 AM PDT by foxfield
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To: lewislynn
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

YAWN ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Wakew me up if you ever find out that don't have the foggiest notion of the truth about the FairTax. Your deliberate ignorance on the subject has long since gone far beyond the stage of just being tiresome.

16 posted on 09/16/2008 6:23:41 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (The FairTax -- the largest magnet for capital and jobs in history. John Snow)
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To: Man50D

read http://www.thomas.gov

you will see the record keeping is totally false. Seniors STILL have to register with the goverment in order to get the monthly welfare check from the NewIRS.

Seniors also have to account for their lifestyle in order to ensure they are not avoiding sales taxes claimed by NewIRS.

It is all in the bill...


17 posted on 09/16/2008 6:28:04 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Man50D

then eliminat capital gains and investment income.


18 posted on 09/16/2008 6:30:35 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: lewislynn
Even before one dime is withdrawn, whether they spend it or invest it, the face value of all their assets would be reduced 23% day one of the Fairtax. Can you say hidden tax?

So what? As it stands now every dime that is sitting in an IRA/401(k)/403(b)/etc. is worth the net amount of value after taxes.

everyone but you is making out fine. But they can't do it unless they're screwing someone else huh! Like Ins. sales, tax accountants, seniors with IRA's

Looie, when did you first notice these symptons?

19 posted on 09/16/2008 6:32:14 AM PDT by groanup ("Always buy stocks after a spectacular bankruptcy")
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To: groanup
I hate to drop into this echo chamber......but here goes.

You are totally ignorant.

What about the "straight" saving oldster have made. They WILL be taxed TWICE under your "great" plan. Take a hike.

20 posted on 09/16/2008 8:46:45 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Palin for President! (PUMA))
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