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Germans wary of Tarantino’s new Holocaust-era movie
Cross Action News ^ | 10-07-08 | Israel Today Staff

Posted on 10/07/2008 6:26:45 AM PDT by Victory111

Flamboyant American filmmaker Quentin Tarantino is scheduled to begin production on his new World War II movie “Inglorious Bastards” in Germany next week, to the consternation of leading German film critics.

The movie stars Brad Pitt, who plays an American-Jewish army officer who after being freed from a German prisoner of war camp leads a group of fellow American-Jewish soldiers in a spree of gruesome revenge killings against Nazi soldiers and officers.

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TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: germany; nazi; pitt; tarantino

1 posted on 10/07/2008 6:26:46 AM PDT by Victory111
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To: Victory111

What ever happened to the big budget WW II movie about the attempt to kill Hitler, starring Tom Cruise?


2 posted on 10/07/2008 6:28:09 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

I don’t think it ever got released......


3 posted on 10/07/2008 6:29:57 AM PDT by Kimmers (Government is an association of men who do violence to the rest of us......Leo Tolstoy)
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To: Victory111

‘Atrocities’ trial shakes Poland’s victim image

FROM ROGER BOYES IN OPOLE, POLAND

GERMAN women were drowned in latrines and prisoners were buried alive during post-war internment in Poland, according to witnesses at the trial of a Polish camp commandant.

Czelaw Geborski, a stooped, snowy-haired pensioner of 76, is accused of murdering German women who, after the Second World War, were herded into deportation camps prior to being expelled from Silesia.

His trial is the first to be held in post-communist Europe for crimes committed against Germans. About 14 million of them were expelled from territory that is now part of Poland and the Czech Republic; two million died mainly of hunger, exhaustion and disease as they trekked westwards.

The revelations, coupled with the disclosure that Polish villagers took part in a bloodthirsty massacre of Jews during the war, have forced Poland to reassess its image of itself as one of the primary victims of Hitler.

The Silesian atrocities occurred in 1945 and 1946, after the end of the war. The Soviet Union laid claim to what was once eastern Poland and in return Poles gained territory in the west. Germans living there were thrown out. Once resettled in Germany they formed powerful political associations that kept alive memories of camps such as Lamsdorf (now known as Lambinowice) 30 kilometres from Opole.

Mr Geborski, sitting in the dock next to his often embarrassed lawyer, interrupts loudly as the witnesses try to reconstruct everyday life in the camp. “It was like a holiday camp!” he barks out, banging his stick on the floor. “They all had their own beds and three modest meals.”

The fact is that in the autumn of 1945 most Poles were in no mood to treat the Germans generously: five years of occupation, a comprehensive system of labour and concentration camps, and executions on street corners made the activities behind the high fences of Lamsdorf camp seem like small beer.

Nonetheless, more than 1,000 people are said to have died there and some of the stories emerging from the witness stand are horrific. If the queue for the women’s latrines was too long the guards would simply shoot the waiting women with a machinegun. Babies were separated from their mothers and allowed to starve. The mothers were chased with sticks around the periphery of the camp.

The charges against Mr Geborski have been narrowed down to the night of October 4, 1945. Fire broke out in barrack room 12. Women prisoners struggled to throw sand on the flames. Uniformed Poles, according to witnesses, shot at them and pushed them into the blaze.

“I can hear their screams even now,” said Helmut Gerlitz, now 62, who as a six-year-old boy stared out of the window of his hut. At least three women died, and others were seriously wounded and mutilated.

Mr Geborski claims that the prisoners started the fire themselves to stage a diversion and escape in the chaos. He merely used his right to order shots to be fired at escaping prisoners. Witnesses say, however, that graves were dug in advance of the blaze, suggesting that the incident was planned by the camp administration.

Strictly speaking much of what the witnesses say amounts to hearsay. At any kind of factual mistake, Mr Geborski interrupts and demands clarification. He does so in the strident tone of someone who spent much of the 1950s and 1960s working for the communist secret police.

Mr Geborski has been charged twice before. Each time the proceedings were dropped because he enjoyed high political protection. The Polish Minister for Recovered Territory - Mr Geborski’s ultimate political boss - was Wladyslaw Gomulka, like Mr Geborski an ex-partisan. The charges against Mr Geborski were dropped in 1958: by then Gomulka had become Poland’s Communist Party chief.

The German authorities, too, did not push very hard for a trial. To support openly the cause of the expelled Germans was to risk being branded a nationalist, someone intent on challenging the legitimacy of the German-Polish border.

So Mr Geborski has benefited from the long silence of politicians. His defence lawyer wishes on him a similar silence: Mr Geborski is not shy about denouncing what he says is the absurdity of a Pole being punished for crimes against Germans after a long and bloody war.

For medical reasons Mr Geborski is allowed to sit in court for only three hours a day. The result is slow proceedings.

The trial continues.


4 posted on 10/07/2008 6:32:36 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Kimmers; pabianice
Valkyrie starring Cruise is slated for release the day after Christmas.
5 posted on 10/07/2008 6:33:00 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Victory111

Hmmmm. They couldn’t be more obvious about the subtext here, could they? Moral equivalence — America and Israel are the new Nazis... Sheesh!


6 posted on 10/07/2008 6:35:58 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: wideawake

Thanks for the info.....I know what I won’t be seeing after Christmas....I am not a fan of recent Cruise movies....


7 posted on 10/07/2008 6:36:49 AM PDT by Kimmers (Government is an association of men who do violence to the rest of us......Leo Tolstoy)
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To: Kimmers

Looks like the release date is now Dec. 26.


8 posted on 10/07/2008 6:40:24 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: 2banana
His trial is the first to be held in post-communist Europe for crimes committed against Germans. About 14 million of them were expelled from territory that is now part of Poland and the Czech Republic; two million died mainly of hunger, exhaustion and disease as they trekked westwards.

"I have issued the command — and I'll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by firing squad — that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly I have placed my Totenkopf Units in readiness — for the present only in the East — with orders to them to send to death, mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish race and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?" - Adolf Hitler's Directive to his Staff before the invasion of Poland (1939)

So excuse me if I don't shed any tears for Nazi "victims."

9 posted on 10/07/2008 6:57:19 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Victory111

The Tarantino script leaked to the web is pretty astonishing - it is in no way historical, but I guess I can report that as a man who lost 9 of my uncles in WWII the depiction of the scalping of nazis went over pretty well with me. There’s a strange love story in the film script between a Jewish girl who witnesses her family machine-gunned in Occupied France and a black film projectionist and their pact to kill top ranking nazis in a theater that is pretty much classic Tarantino. I’ll be honest and say this won’t be to everyone’s taste. I’m going to enjoy it however.


10 posted on 10/07/2008 7:15:01 AM PDT by mdk1960
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To: dfwgator
So excuse me if I don't shed any tears for Nazi "victims."

Just so I understand your logic - does that mean American soldiers can murder, rape and ethnically cleanse millions of innocent Iraqis? After all, we beat them in a war and their pre-invasion government was pretty terrible..

11 posted on 10/07/2008 7:20:14 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana
Just so I understand your logic - does that mean American soldiers can murder, rape and ethnically cleanse millions of innocent Iraqis?

Iraq did not invade the US and commit the atrocities to American civilians like the Nazis did to Poles.

12 posted on 10/07/2008 7:23:12 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: pabianice

Brad Pitt as a JEW? Ha ha ha ha


13 posted on 10/07/2008 7:26:49 AM PDT by NowApproachingMidnight (Defeating liberalism is a strategy, electing McCain is a tactic)
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To: Victory111

I think “Pulp Fiction” was a pretty good flick, not great,but pretty good. Other than that, I don’t understand all the hype for Tarantino.


14 posted on 10/07/2008 7:46:32 AM PDT by kickonly88
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To: pabianice; Kimmers
On IMDB, the release date is scheduled for December 26 of this year. Yes, the day after Christmas. This will qualify them for the next Oscars, but box office wise? Thats a toss up.
15 posted on 10/07/2008 9:28:13 AM PDT by lowbridge (Biden is an expert on almost every subject that has ever come before the Congress. -Linda Douglass)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Is there a more apolitical filmmaker than Tarantino?


16 posted on 10/07/2008 9:51:37 AM PDT by Borges
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To: 2banana
The revelations, coupled with the disclosure that Polish villagers took part in a bloodthirsty massacre of Jews during the war, have forced Poland to reassess its image of itself as one of the primary victims of Hitler.

Only for morons who swallow whole the idiotic modern notion that victims are somehow made holy by their suffering and therefore incapable of committing evil themselves.

Victims and oppressors are not different types of people. They are often the same people in different circumstances.

Those gloating over these crimes fail to notice (or perhaps don't care) that the victims of the revenge killings are seldom the people who committed the crimes for which revenge is wanted. If they drowned, or burned, or hanged the actual perps, I have no problem with it.

But murdering random black people (or Jews or Germans) because a family member was killed by someone who shares physical characteristics with the killers is evil. The Poles doing such things were every bit as evil as the Nazis, although admittedly with somewhat greater justified motivation.

17 posted on 10/07/2008 6:33:40 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

You should see my face! :-))


18 posted on 10/07/2008 6:44:44 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: Victory111
The trailer is out, in HD no less, and it's definitely not going to be the for faint of heart.
19 posted on 02/23/2009 5:50:36 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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