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"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." BHO
Audacity of Hope | na | obama

Posted on 10/11/2008 6:56:32 PM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush

"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."Barack Hussein Obama, Audacity of Hope

Need to know, I saw this from another poster here on FR...I never read Obamas book....Is this True ? Context?

TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: gdamerica; jeremiahwright; louisfarrakhan; mccain; nationofislam; obama
What The F?
1 posted on 10/11/2008 6:56:32 PM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

The actual quote from the book “Audacity of Hope” is from page 261 and is as follows: “Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

2 posted on 10/11/2008 6:58:50 PM PDT by jessduntno (Good Grief.)
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

Yes! It might even be an audio clip on his book recording.

3 posted on 10/11/2008 6:59:27 PM PDT by ncfool ("Obama been lying. "Get it? Sounds Like "Osama bin Laden"?)
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To: jessduntno

I actually don’t have a problem with THAT statement when considering ALL the words that surround it.

It is some of the other sh!t he has said that has me concerned.

4 posted on 10/11/2008 7:02:40 PM PDT by a real Sheila (McCain is Obama, lite!)
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

So long, USA.

5 posted on 10/11/2008 7:02:50 PM PDT by Boucheau
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To: jessduntno

WOW, so now its not ok to “...hard stares from neighbors ...”

anyway - I truly believe This guy has got some hidden agenda??? Appointing really bad people to the supreme court or other really bad stuff???

6 posted on 10/11/2008 7:03:44 PM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush (Today, July 16th I no longer donate money for Israel)
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To: a real Sheila

“It is some of the other sh!t he has said that has me concerned.”

As my Irish Uncle would say, “Shite is Shite.”

7 posted on 10/11/2008 7:06:18 PM PDT by jessduntno (Good Grief.)
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Just Words

From Dreams of My Father:'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'

From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

From Dreams of My Father:'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'

From Dreams of My Father:'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

And FINALLY the Most Damning one of ALL of them!!!

From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

8 posted on 10/11/2008 7:08:45 PM PDT by ncfool ("Obama been lying. "Get it? Sounds Like "Osama bin Laden"?)
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

Why this is so important...

Saudi Arabia - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bibles are illegal. Churches are illegal. Easter celebrations are illegal. It is punishable by death for a non-mulsim to enter the “holy” muslim cities of Medina and Mecca.

Yemen - Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims and forbids conversions. The Government does not allow the building of new non-Muslim places of worship.

Kuwait - Registration and licensing of religious groups. Members of religions not sanctioned in the Koran may not build places of worship. Prohibits organized religious education for religions other than Islam.

Egypt - Islam is the official state religion and primary source of legislation. Accordingly, religious practices that conflict with Islamic law are prohibited. Muslims may face legal problems if they convert to another faith (up to and including death). Requires non-Muslims to obtain what is now a presidential decree to build a place of worship.

Northern Cyprus - About 133 churches, chapels and monasteries have been converted to military storage facilities, stables and night-clubs. Seventy-eight churches have been converted to mosques, and dozens more are used as military facilities, medical storage facilities, or stockyards or hay barns, according to statistics from The Republic of Cyprus. Agia Anastasia Church in Lapithos was converted into a hotel and casino, while the Sourp Magar Armenian monastery – founded in the medieval period – was converted into a cafeteria.

Algeria - The law prohibits public assembly for purposes of practicing a faith other than Islam. Non-Islamic proselytizing is illegal, and the Government restricts the importation of non-Islamic literature for distribution. The country has passed the “Regulation of Religious Practice” law, which stipulates a punishment of two to five years’ imprisonment and heavy fines for anyone convicted of urging a Muslim to change his religion.

Syria - The constitution requires the president to be a Muslim and specifies that Islamic jurisprudence is a principal source of legislation. Sharing your Christian faith is discouraged as “posing a threat to the relations among religious groups” and carries a penalty of up to life in prison. A Christian is not allowed to proselytize – ever. Churches who want to hold an extra service must get a government permit. Sermons are routinely monitored, as is church fundraising.

Jordan - Has the death penalty for any Muslim selling land to a Jew.

Sudan - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death.

Pakistan - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims. Christians regularly put in prison for charges of blasphemy. Islam is the state religion, and in a court of law the testimony of a Christian carries less weight than that of a Muslim. Section 295(c) of the Penal Code calls for a death sentence for anyone who defiles the name of the Prophet Muhammad and requires the testimony of four Muslims for a conviction. This fosters an environment in which Muslims can feel free to use intimidation and violence against religious minorities for personal gain. Also, if any criminal Muslim rape with any Christian female and then take plea that she has accepted Islam and marry with him. Such person is not culpable under Pakistani criminal law

Qatar - Islamic instruction is compulsory in public schools. The government regulates the publication, importation, and distribution of non-Islamic religious literature. The government continues to prohibit proselytizing of Muslims by non-Muslims.

Malaysia - Under Malaysian law, any convert to Christianity must apply to a shariah (Muslim law) court to legally renounce Islam. Many Christians prefer to remain silent converts rather than take their battle to the shariah courts, where apostasy or conversion out of Islam is punishable by whipping, fines, imprisonment and—in the most extreme application—death. In a country where Muslims account for more than half of the population, conversion from Islam is punished with a 5-year prison sentence and a $3,000 fine. A Malaysian Muslim who marries a non-Muslim and who converts the non-Muslim to Islam is rewarded with an apartment, a car, a one-time payment of $2,700, and a monthly stipend of $270.

The Maldives - In the island paradise visited by tens of thousands of tourists each year, Christianity is simply not tolerated. While local Christians – said to number around 300 out of a total population of 300,000 – do get together to worship, they do so at the risk of imprisonment or worse if discovered by the Muslim authorities. Bibles are banned, and tourists can be arrested for trying to bring them into the country.

England - Bradford, Yorkshire, UK. Pop. 300,000 - 20% Islamic. Local police required to tell community elders the location of girls who run away to escape arranged marriages. Bars and liquor stores in the Lumb Lane / Manningham Lane area of the city ‘requested’ to close on Fridays. Schools, colleges, and health clinics have to have separate areas for women, with a copy of the Koran available. Public critcism of Islam or it’s adherents, such as letters to the local paper, emails to friends, speeches etc, can and has led to criminal charges ‘Using words intentionally and wilfully to cause fear, hate, or distress. Christmas decorations not to be put up, as this may make the Moslems feel ‘culturally overshadowed’. Shops ‘requested’ not to display easter eggs for the same reason. The term ‘requested’ means not legally enforceable but local police warn that they cannot intervene if your premises get ‘damaged’ somehow. Local councillors and MPs have encouraged all this for the past 15 years. Bradford Northwest MP Ann Cryer regularly appears with long sleeves and her head covered. She once stated that women in Islam are properly liberated and that Islam is an example to us all.

9 posted on 10/11/2008 7:11:58 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana

You forgot one Middle-East country!

ISRAEL: Where do they stand with Islam?

10 posted on 10/11/2008 7:18:02 PM PDT by ncfool ("Obama been lying. "Get it? Sounds Like "Osama bin Laden"?)
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To: jessduntno

Perhaps they should be asked if they stand with us since the Islamic wind against us has such a noticeable ugly element, at least with a bit more fervor than we have seen thus far.

11 posted on 10/11/2008 7:22:21 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

12 posted on 10/11/2008 7:53:27 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: ncfool

he never used the word Muslim

13 posted on 10/11/2008 7:59:21 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush
Appointing really bad people to the supreme court or other really bad stuff???

Who is the puppet master? Someone has to be telling him what to say and when - he doesn't seem to be a deep thinker although the Libs love the "uhhh,ah,let me see, uuuhh" makes him look like he searching the depths for just the right philosophical answer.
14 posted on 10/11/2008 8:13:10 PM PDT by Cheerio
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To: PhilDragoo

See post 2 for direct quote.

15 posted on 10/11/2008 8:16:01 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: All

Here’s a few more quotes from his books showing disdain for whites:

From ‘Dreams of my Father’, “The emotion between the races could never be pure, even love was tarnished by the desire to find in the other some element that was missing in ourselves. Whether we sought out our demons or salvation, THE OTHER RACE (WHITE) WOULD ALWAYS REMAIN JUST THAT: MENACING ALIEN, AND APART” Barack Hussein Obama

From Dreams Of My Father: “That hate hadn’t gone away,” he wrote, BLAMING “WHITE PEOPLE — some CRUEL, some IGNORANT, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives.” Barack Hussein Obama

Look what he says about ISLAM!

Quote from Barack Obama’s book, Dreams Of My Father:


From ‘Audacity of Hope: “LOLO (Obama’s step father) FOLLOWED ISLAM....”I LOOKED TO LOLO FOR GUIDANCE”.


From The Audacity Of Hope, “WE ARE NO LONGER JUST A CHRISTIAN NATION, WE ARE a Jewish nation,A MUSLIM NATION, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.”

(As much as Obama might wish American was no longer a Christian nation. It is:
Protestants comprise 51.3% of its population, Roman Catholics 23.9%, Mormons 1.7%, other Christian 1.6%, Jewish 1.7%, Buddhist 0.7%, Muslim 0.6%. — That’s 78.5% of its population who are Christian — Source: CIA World Fact Book)

“..THAT GHOSTLY FIGURE THAT HAUNTED BLACK DREAMS. Barack Hussein Obama, ‘ Audacity of Hope’

.“NEVER IMULATE THE WHITE MEN and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. IT WAS INTO MY FATHER’S IMAGE, THE BLACK MAN, SON OF AFRICA, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and MALCOLM, DuBois and Mandela.”Dreams From My Father

Quotes by Obama, his pastor and mintor, Jeremiah Wright and their honored associate, Nation of Islam leader, Louis Farrakhan:

“God will destroy America by the hands of the Muslims....God will not give Japan or Europe the honor of bringing down the United States; this is an honor God will bestow upon Muslims.” – Nation of Islam Leader Louis Farrakhan

“White people are potential humans…they haven’t evolved yet.”– Nation of Islam Leader Louis Farrakhan
Philadelphia Inquirer, March 2000

According to a journalist’s account, “Farrakhan called ‘the white man’ the ‘anti-Christ’ to rousing applause.”

“White America got their wake-up call after 9-11. White America and the Western world came to realize people of color had not gone away, faded in the woodwork, or just disappeared as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.” Jeremiah Wright (Obama’s pastor and mentor)

“The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the PALESTINIANS have lived because of Zionism.” Jeremiah Wright. Obama’s pastor.

Barack Obama The Racist - In His Own Words

Isn’t all that something? Can you imagine America with a presient who said those things?
Can you imagine how any other candidate would have been CRUCIFIED if he had those racist things out in print??

How did we get to this point? How?


16 posted on 10/11/2008 11:28:32 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: patriot08
How did we get here, almost four years later....under the Obama leftist reign? Via American voter ignorance and stupidity. Let's hope that most of those same voters have learned something in the past four years of the Obamanation, and will vote "differently" this November.

It's funny/odd how fast the Obama administration CAN act if or when it's something they really care about.


Obama: Detention OK for 1st Amendment 'activities'

Order preventing enforcement appealed by Department of Justice

The Obama administration is battling to restore a controversial provision of a new federal law that it admits could have been used to arrest and detain citizens indefinitely – even if their actions were protected by the First Amendment.

A federal judge this week made permanent an injunction against enforcement of Section 1021 of the most recent National Defense Authorization Act, which was declared unconstitutional.

The Obama administration then took only hours to file an appeal of the order from U.S. District Judge Katherine Forrest, and attorneys also asked her to halt enforcement of her order.

17 posted on 09/15/2012 2:21:55 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: jessduntno

“I will stand with them “

The fact that everyone edits the quote by adding “the Muslims” hurts the creditability of the claim.

A link to the citation should be included and Muslims should be in brackets.

I believed that the context is correct, but the exact quote is wrong, which opens us up to that charge that we are taking him out of context.

Obama supporters could claim he meant immigrants in general.

18 posted on 02/17/2015 8:02:39 PM PST by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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