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How Evolution Learns From Past Environments To Adapt To New Environments
Science Daily ^ | 11/10/2008

Posted on 11/10/2008 5:50:16 AM PST by Soliton

The evolution of novel characteristics within organisms can be enhanced when environments change in a systematic manner, according to a new study by Weizmann Institute researchers.

Merav Parter, Nadav Kashtan and Uri Alon suggest that in environments that vary over time in a non-random way, evolution can learn the rules of the environment and develop organisms that can readily generate novel useful traits with only a few mutations. Details are published November 7 in the open-access journal PLoS Computational Biology

In this study Parter, Kashtan and Alon began with the observation that environments in nature seemingly vary according to common rules or regularities. They proposed that organisms can learn how previous environments changed, and then use this information for their evolutionary advantage in the future. For example, if the available seeds tended to vary in size and hardness along history, then bird species might have learned to develop beaks with an easily tunable size and strength.

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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: evolution; lamarck; lamarckism; lysenko; lysenkoism
Evolution isn't random.
1 posted on 11/10/2008 5:50:16 AM PST by Soliton
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To: Soliton
Naturalistic evolution is a combination of law and chance (randomness). Pre-adaptationism (such as this article implies) is a distinctly non-evolutionary concept. It's like proposing, "OK, it's unreasonable to believe a car evolved by chance... but if we just assume the pre-existing existence of an automated, robotic car factory, then the spontaneous generation of an automobile becomes quite reasonable."

Sure. But such proposals elevate the level of complexity that now needs to be explained. Where did the presumed genetic machinery that can quickly produce refined responses to environmental changes come from, and how does it know which responses (out of an astronomical number of random and mostly harmful responses) are useful? It's no wonder that the originator of this whole approach to evolutionary difficulties, Dr. Dean Kenyon, eventually became a creationist.

2 posted on 11/10/2008 6:01:41 AM PST by Liberty1970 (Mainstream media is not mainstream. Call it what it is: Hate Media.)
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To: Soliton

thats it... the election is over and now its time to put a burr under the collective saddle of the Luddites.

That means nothing is important anymore in Washington. That would be nice but it is not true.


3 posted on 11/10/2008 6:04:28 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Soliton

Looks like Intelligent Design is finally catching on.


4 posted on 11/10/2008 6:20:05 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy
Looks like Intelligent Design is finally catching on.

YES! That IS what the article is about!

5 posted on 11/10/2008 6:30:16 AM PST by Soliton (This 2 shall pass)
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To: Soliton

So evolution is teleological, eh? Interesting.


6 posted on 11/10/2008 6:36:12 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: Liberty1970

They proposed that organisms can learn how previous environments changed, and then use this information for their evolutionary advantage in the future. For example, if the available seeds tended to vary in size and hardness along history, then bird species might have learned to develop beaks with an easily tunable size and strength.


Gee. From this description - I assume from an evolutionist - you’d think that Somebody was designing and controlling this whole evolution thing according to a long-range strategy that remembers the past. Doesn’t sound very random to me.


7 posted on 11/10/2008 7:01:17 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Evolution is not random. If I interpret this correctly, organisms develop a genetic memory that allows them to adapt more efficiently to changing environmental conditions. Rather than relying solely on the genetic drift (as in an unchanging environment), these populations assemble a “toolbox” whereby they don't have to reinvent the wheel as conditions change. This, coupled with genetic drift and selection, drives the evolutionary machinery - no design or control needed.
8 posted on 11/10/2008 7:16:43 AM PST by stormer
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To: Soliton

INTREP


9 posted on 11/10/2008 7:30:20 AM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: stormer
Interesting that you too are using all “active verbs” to describe these random mutations: including his poorly defined “genetic "memory"” : “assemble”, “reinvent the wheel” ("invent the wheel" in the first place” ?), “relying”, and even “adapt”.

Evolution (as proposed) only allows random mutations at random times. Some live - and some of those mutations may get passed on to the next generation. The rest die.

His premise requires a long series of changes - unless you allow that the DNA/genes are this “storage device” - but then you still need to (1) cause a second random mutation to “stop the first (beneficial) mutation, then (2) “store the stopped mutation sufficiently accurately so that it can be re-started, but NOT be active for many generations; then (3) have ANOTHER random mutation to “unstop” the second change - but NOT destroy the first random mutation; then (4) and a fourth random mutation NOT happen to stop the now-needed third random mutation from getting “turned off” too early.

I supposed all that could happen. Randomly.

8<)

10 posted on 11/10/2008 7:30:55 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
So evolution is teleological

I didn't see the word in the article, but if you believe in invisible things without evidence, I suppose anything is possible in your worldview.

11 posted on 11/10/2008 7:38:46 AM PST by Soliton (This 2 shall pass)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Semantics aside, the fundamental issue is the concept of “randomness”. The term implies that the opportunity for any and every change is equal - this is not the case. You seem to want to make a mathematical argument out of biological constructs.
12 posted on 11/10/2008 7:42:51 AM PST by stormer
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To: stormer

No.


13 posted on 11/10/2008 8:36:05 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Soliton

14 posted on 11/10/2008 11:52:38 AM PST by Gitche Gumee
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To: Gitche Gumee

So...a Man is a Bird is a Bug is a Plant......that’s what you’re saying?


15 posted on 11/10/2008 1:30:40 PM PST by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: Soliton

“Evolution isn’t random.”

So you are saying it’s ordered?


16 posted on 11/10/2008 1:35:56 PM PST by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Seeds are amazing.

They each contain the respective design/blueprint to construct, replicate and multiply it’s own kind.

What if there was no “big bang” but rather just the germination of a “universe seed”


17 posted on 11/10/2008 2:26:47 PM PST by freedom9
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To: freedom9

Nah. 8<)

Genesis describes the Big Bang in the same exact sequence that science today describes it. (It is off a few decimals places, but - heck - the old shepherds didn’t exactly have a zero.)

Much less logarithms and powers-of-ten yet ....


18 posted on 11/10/2008 3:01:15 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: scottdeus12
So you are saying it’s ordered?

Evolution follows the laws of physics like everything else. It is therefore limited in the direction it can take.

19 posted on 11/10/2008 3:48:05 PM PST by Soliton (This 2 shall pass)
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To: Soliton
Non viability is something of a “death sentence” isn't it? We are all imperfect replicators and the descendants of a long line of imperfect replicators, all of whom had to be viable and reproductively sound.

On a molecular basis that is a fairly high bar to clear, keeps out the ‘riff raff’. ;)

20 posted on 11/10/2008 3:53:45 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed.... so how could it be Redistributed?)
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To: allmendream
On a molecular basis that is a fairly high bar to clear, keeps out the ‘riff raff’. ;)

As a wise man once said, entropy is a beotch!

21 posted on 11/10/2008 3:56:35 PM PST by Soliton (This 2 shall pass)
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To: Soliton

That’s correct. It is stochastic. Big difference.


22 posted on 11/10/2008 3:58:14 PM PST by RightWhale (Exxon Suxx)
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To: Soliton
But entropy is a double edged sword.

Live by the sword. Die by the sword.

Life is dependent upon increasing environmental entropy in order to maintain a local pocket of reduced entropy.

23 posted on 11/10/2008 4:00:22 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed.... so how could it be Redistributed?)
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To: Soliton

Evolution follows the laws of physics like everything else. It is therefore limited in the direction it can take.

So it’s governed by a law then....and, let me guess...laws evolve as well.....and don’t necessarily have a lawmaker either.....


24 posted on 11/12/2008 2:55:46 PM PST by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: scottdeus12
So it’s governed by a law then....and, let me guess...laws evolve as well.....and don’t necessarily have a lawmaker either.....

The "laws" are simply part of the fabric of the universe. There is no need for a lawmaker.

25 posted on 11/12/2008 3:42:07 PM PST by Soliton (This 2 shall pass)
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To: Soliton

“The “laws” are simply part of the fabric of the universe. There is no need for a lawmaker.”

By definition, a law requires a lawmaker. Try again.

Fabric of the Universe....sounds like Carl Sagan.....lol.....


26 posted on 11/13/2008 2:22:26 PM PST by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: scottdeus12
By definition, a law requires a lawmaker. Try again.

"a statement of an order or relation of phenomena that so far as is known is invariable under the given conditions b: a general relation proved or assumed to hold between mathematical or logical expressions"

Making up definitions is a liars game.

27 posted on 11/13/2008 3:04:24 PM PST by Soliton (This 2 shall pass)
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To: Soliton; scottdeus12
Making up definitions is a liars game.

 Then abandon evolutionary beliefs. 

28 posted on 11/13/2008 8:24:33 PM PST by valkyry1 (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: valkyry1

I looked up the defibiyion of “law” as it applied to science and there wasn’t any mention of “lawgiver”. Lying for God is never right.


29 posted on 11/13/2008 11:56:54 PM PST by Soliton (This 2 shall pass)
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To: Soliton
Non Sequitur.
30 posted on 11/14/2008 12:29:33 AM PST by valkyry1 (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: Soliton
Lying for God is never right.

Like I said, then abandon evolutionary beliefs.

31 posted on 11/14/2008 12:32:25 AM PST by valkyry1 (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: valkyry1
Like I said, then abandon evolutionary beliefs.

If you don't like facts, go to the Religion forum. They're not allowed there.

32 posted on 11/14/2008 1:26:06 AM PST by Soliton (This 2 shall pass)
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To: Soliton

Your facts, as it applies to evolutionary beliefs, are very ephemeral, an illusion as it is.


33 posted on 11/14/2008 1:50:50 AM PST by valkyry1 (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: valkyry1
Your facts, as it applies to evolutionary beliefs, are very ephemeral, an illusion as it is.

Is that really you, Yoda?

34 posted on 11/14/2008 7:49:00 AM PST by Soliton (This 2 shall pass)
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To: Soliton

“Making up definitions is a liars game.”

Screw you pal.

Why don’t you push your liberal secular agenda elsewhere.

I’m no liar. You can take your last statement and shove it.


35 posted on 11/17/2008 1:55:31 PM PST by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: Soliton
I just found where you got your definition. Webster's:

6 a: a statement of an order or relation of phenomena that so far as is known is invariable under the given conditions b: a general relation proved or assumed to hold between mathematical or logical expressions

I see that you chose #6. Did you not see definition 1a?:1 a (1): a binding custom or practice of a community : a rule of conduct or action prescribed or formally recognized as binding or enforced by a controlling authority.

My guess is you chose to ignore that to call to bolster your argument... and then call *me* a liar. Putz.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/law

36 posted on 11/17/2008 3:59:48 PM PST by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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