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.40 cal question - Glock? (Vanity)
11/28/08 | Self

Posted on 11/28/2008 10:36:17 AM PST by scottdeus12

Hello fellow freepers, I have a question to ask. I've been recently looking at some hanguns - specifically the Glock 23 and 27 and also a Taurus (all .40 cal). I'm looking for a home-defense weapon and I'd like to have the versatility to carry it as well. I love the feel of the taurus, but the smaller Glock is nice because you can conceal it easily.....

Does anyone have any suggestions?


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To: Frantzie

“How is the XD for accuraccy?”

I haven’t fired one yet...plan to rent one if my gunshop has it, will let you know. Think you could pull up on the internet some opinions from users.

The orignal poster talked in terms of home defense and we don’t know if there is a female shooter in house as well, but a big 1911 may not be his best tool. He might be better off with a revolver firing a .38 cal HP.

Have been reluctant to get away from the full-szied 1911 but now pretty much believe the “plastic” in .45 cal is better for carry purposes. My baby is a one-owner 1970’s Colt Commander 9mm but the XD may be in my future.

Regards,


41 posted on 11/28/2008 11:44:32 AM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: afasouthernbelle

First off, there are some serious shooting and reloading pros on FR so I’m a bit shy of offering advice.

Your first reloaded round is the most expensive, they all get cheaper after that!

I’ve got a single stage press that works fine. I’ve also got a turret that I’ve never set up and don’t know if I will.

I wish I had a progressive press having once used a friends but I don’t. However I have learned how to do batches of hundreds by doing each step by the hundreds instead of all at one time. Also, at any given time I may have hundreds of cleaned and primed brass just waiting for powder and lead and if all I want is 50 or so, great.

Do yourself a favor and get your primers now. I buy by the 1000 and I’m still small time compared to some on FR and others I know. There’s talk of expiring primers someday so you’d want regular ones now. This is also another reason I’m trimming down to just a couple calibers instead of many. I’m just not skilled enough to do 9 mm and .40 justice on reloading. .38/357 and .45 is much more forgiving.

No tv while reloading. No smoking. No drinking. Care on visitors. Radio only, if that. No room for distractions when loading powder. None.

Oh yeah...carbide dies. More expensive but worth every penny more.


42 posted on 11/28/2008 12:11:47 PM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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To: scottdeus12
Buy the one that fits your hand best. That's the one that you'll take to the range and shoot. One that doesn't fit your hand well is one you'll leave in the gun safe and only think about taking to the range from time to time.

If you ever get into a self-defense situation, the gun you want to have in your hand is the one that feels right in your hand, and that you've practiced with so much it's practically all reflex.

43 posted on 11/28/2008 12:20:45 PM PST by Lucretia Borgia (Lost in a sea of blue.)
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To: scottdeus12

If it’s for home defense only, I recommend a pump shotgun loaded with 00 buck.

For carry, your options are good. I like the Glock 23 but I usually carry a 38 snubbie.


44 posted on 11/28/2008 12:23:58 PM PST by VoiceOfBruck (I personally believe...)
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To: Lucretia Borgia

Range time is it. Run a bunch of various ammo types through whatever new gun you buy. You’ll find out that some species perform better than others and you don’t want to discover this when you really need the piece.


45 posted on 11/28/2008 12:27:27 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: scottdeus12
Get a revolver for carry and home. A S&W .357 with a laser sight is probably best.

Why?
The Glock is pretty well made and fairly reliable for an auto, but it’s still an auto. Because of its heavy trigger, people think it’s double action. It isn’t. If you have a miss-fire, you can’t just pull the trigger again. You have to rack the slide. Also Glocks are tricky with reloads so practice will be expensive.

Limited to six rounds? 99% of all confrontations are settled with three or less shots (unless you’re a cop).

Get a revolver and practice.
46 posted on 11/28/2008 12:28:43 PM PST by Hiddigeigei (Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder. [Arnold Toynbee])
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To: scottdeus12

I own a .40 Taurus PT100 in stainless I bought 16 years ago. I’ve fired at least 2500 rounds through it and have yet to have a misfire or jam with either FMJ’s or hollow points. It’s also been quite accurate and easy to disassemble and clean. It’s a spinoff of the Beretta 92 (both were produced in the same factory in Brazil). I also have a SigSauer 220 which is an excellent piece but a little more pricey. Taurus’s warranty makes it a win/win situation.


47 posted on 11/28/2008 12:35:13 PM PST by germanicus
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To: Hiddigeigei

I have been in love with my G27, but I will soon be in the market for a hammerless Ladysmith ( even though Im a guy ).
Its the trigger pull for me.

Buy what feels most comfortable to you. Its going to be what you shoot the most, so comfort counts bigtime.


48 posted on 11/28/2008 12:42:51 PM PST by waterhill (An armed man has the means for independence)
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To: scottdeus12
Million choices won't do. Here you gun savants, just decide!

1. Most accurate at 20 feet.

2. Single shot kills perp.

3. Easy concealed carry in shoulder holster or on hip.

4. Smooth action.

5. Easy load. Reload.

6. Can handle load variations.

7. Price NO object.

Your thoughts?

49 posted on 11/28/2008 12:53:17 PM PST by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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To: scottdeus12

Look at the S&W M&P models. I think you’ll like them a lot better than the Glocks. Glocks aren’t bad, but the M&P is replacing Glocks in many police departments around the country.


50 posted on 11/28/2008 1:37:30 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Doc Savage

1911


51 posted on 11/28/2008 1:39:03 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: VoiceOfBruck

“If it’s for home defense only, I recommend a pump shotgun loaded with 00 buck.

For carry, your options are good. I like the Glock 23 but I usually carry a 38 snubbie.”

Well, I actually have a Ruger Red Label (which is awesome); but I’m looking for a carry weapon....and yes, the glock is nice. Many folks here are recommending the Springfield XD however...so many choices...


52 posted on 11/28/2008 1:42:52 PM PST by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: scottdeus12

I’ve got the Glock 20 (10-mm). It is comparable to a .40 cal. However, the ammo cost is considerably more than a 9-mm or .38 cal. If you are looking to do a lot of target practice, go with the smaller caliber. If you are looking to stop a home invader, go with the higher one.


53 posted on 11/28/2008 1:44:03 PM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Hoodat
I say this most seriously, please look at a Browning Hi-Power in 9MM. Before you buy anything, look at the Browning Hi-Power.The Hi-Power has been around for ever, proved itself for reliability, and ability to work under all conditions from the 1st World War. The Hi-Power is no experimental piece of cr^& it has been proven time and time again.
54 posted on 11/28/2008 1:54:35 PM PST by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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To: scottdeus12

No and no.

The Springfield Armory XD is probably what you want. Think about it like a second generation Glock.

I love guns but Glocks are my last and bottom choice.


55 posted on 11/28/2008 2:28:36 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Pistolshot
This is correct and not a 'myth'. A number of police agencies, including the New Mexico State Police, Bernalillo County Sherriffs along with the Georgia State Police and a host of others, are switching to the S&W MP. The previous experiences with KBi is due largely to case failure and overpressure.

There are three reasons given for Kbi.
  • Lead Bullets
  • Double charged loads
  • Mis-handling of rounds by LEO Rangemasters
The design of all Glocks have what is called unsupported chambers.


56 posted on 11/28/2008 2:42:52 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: scottdeus12
Recent S&W M&P sales. Iraqi security and police [7,500] Trinidad and Tobago Police Service [1,500] Pakistan Sindh Police Agency [548] Canada’s Halton Regional Police Service [600] Colorado Springs Police Department [500] Atlanta Police Department [1,900] Charlotte Police Department [1,650] Syracuse Police Department [500] Colorado State Patrol [850] Worcester, Massachusetts Police Department [500] Cincinnati Police Department [1,100] New Hampshire Department of Safety [500] Hartford, Connecticut Police Department [500] ...and more than 330 other police departments.
57 posted on 11/28/2008 3:00:28 PM PST by KyGeezer
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To: BooBoo1000
I say this most seriously, please look at a Browning Hi-Power in 9MM. Before you buy anything, look at the Browning Hi-Power.

The problem with that is that the HP is basically IMPOSSIBLE to find new.

I've been looking for a "like new" HP from the 1970s or before to have customized and while they are out there, new HPs are not.

58 posted on 11/28/2008 3:07:45 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: scottdeus12

59 posted on 11/28/2008 3:26:14 PM PST by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: RichardW

Recoil.


60 posted on 11/28/2008 3:27:20 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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