Thor? Last night. No, really...I was re-reading the Walter Simonson run of the Thor comic book.
As for Kukulcan, I'd have to say about 5 years ago. That was the last time I watched the Star Trek animated episode, "How Sharper Than A Serpents Tooth".
Posted on 12/01/2008 9:32:30 AM PST by CardShark
First of all I want to say that were I a resident of California, I would have voted "no" on Proposition 8. In other words, I am in favor of gay marriage. However, I get the feeling the homosexual community believes they now have a monopoly on non race related discrimination. Excuse me, but last time I paid for a sandwich I didn't see any catchy pro-heterosexual slogans on my money. "I'll have a turkey club on whole-wheat and a small soda. Four-fifty, no problem, let me just pull out a five spot with, 'Sex Between a Man and Woman Feels Great!' printed to the right of Honest Abe's nose.
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I saw a protester sign the other day that said “Gay is the new black”. FWIW.
The squeaky wheel gets the Vaseline, as it were.
Being Republican in Hollywood is the new gay.
I know, many gays claim to be Christians but their lifestyle CHOICE excludes them. They may “repent” but they keep on “sinning” instead of “sin no more”. So these illusions of being a “Christian” are absurd. Their “choice” defies the role God had in mind for them and speaks of their “choice” as an abomination - hardly what a “Christian” should repeatedly chose as a “life style choice”.
And we don’t want to pursue where ... .
No, we do not...
Actually there are antitheist atheists who spout hate and certianly the gaystapo activists have engaging in violence and vandalism against people of Christian faith since the Prop 8 vote.
Do we want the State uttering words over us in Last Rites? Especially words like, "pay up"?
You can be homosexual and Christian. We are all sinners. Some want to change church teachings ON their sins and say rather than “sin no more” that they are “no more sins”.
If it squeeks to loud and too often, the squeeky wheel gets replaced as being too damn annoying.
We all fall short. I suspect the big difference is that those of us in FR recognise our sins as being wrong, struggle to overcome them...and aren't out in parades trying to convince confused underaged kids that they really should just relax and imitate us.
Second attempt to respond to this crap. The first was way too long.
Are you sure this is satire?
1 - We are a majority Christian nation and POTUS-elect claims to be a Christian. Deal with it.
2 - IGWT won’t be removed from the money until/unless the nation has been secularized. That is: the majority reject supernaturalism in all forms (from angels to Zoroastrianism). That will take a very long time. You’re putting the cart before the horse.
3 - Most gays are atheists.
4 - Hate crime laws are thought crime. If someone is kicking your ass, they don’t like you very much.
5 - Being an atheist doesn’t have a damn thing to do with being a liberal.
Still not sure if this is satire. A lot of atheists are actually this whiny.
Oh, yeah: I’m an atheist.
Um...I don’t think this is satire. I think he’s serious.
I am a non-practicing atheist, unorthodox, if you will.
LOL! No they aren't "Christians".
Yes, they want God to conform to THEIR world. It doesn't work that way.
When you REPENT, you change your ways. To constantly “repent” and go on “sinning” is not what God is looking for. Notice each time Christ forgives someone, He says “sin no more”.
I suppose they want to believe when someone tells you, “I won't steal again” and continues to make stealing a way of life a “Christian”. God doesn't buy into that one either. he is also very clear on what He finds an “abomination” to be and that is and always will be homosexuality.
The idea that we all sin is wears thin when you have a “sinner” repeating the SAME offense over and over again with no change at all. We are supposed to try an imitate Him knowing we will fall short but not even trying to change is where they go awry. Clearly it is not a “repenting” and “sin no more” that is going on.
They need to give God some credit instead of insulting Him! He's NOT stupid or some door mat. They aren't Christians - they're HUMANISTS. Christ knows their hearts and repeated disobedience shows they do not love Him.
In fact for people like that, He has this to say to them:
Luke.13:24-27
[24] Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
[25] When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
[26] Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
[27] But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
What a very sad day that will be for them. But they are insisting on having God conform to their ways rather than this:
Rom.12:2
[2] And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
No you can't.
“Let’s examine the struggles we atheists go through on a daily basis: Reading about all the past theist leaders of America in our history books, our future progressive President choosing to exclude us at the conclusion of his speeches to the country, the money we exchange for goods and services being plastered with religious phrases, and having to watch nearly every sports figure in America point to their god in thanks after doing something good on the playing surface.”
Oh wow...I never realised just how much of a strain being an atheist was! Good grief, having to read about the great historical figures of the past, not ONE of which had the sense to not believe in God! And having to see people pray or acknowledge God at athletic meets and football matches! I mean does it never end? And then all those religous phrases plastered on the money...well, the one sort of affirmation anyway...but gracious that’s bad enough! And as for all of the presidents...well how DARE they say what they believe and thereby offend the 1% of the population who are Atheists! It makes me sick to my stomach. It really does.
Do I really need a /sarc?
Why not?
You can be a murderer and a Christian. You can be a thief and a Christian. You can be a liar and a Christian, you can be an adulterer and a Christian. All those things are sins, and sure, a Christian should shun sin and fight against the temptations of this world. But we all fail, and we all fall. That is, after all, why we need a saviour.
LOL...I like that...thats really good! Well done!
Yes and no. Look at the tenses of the relevant Greek in I John, especially chapter 2. We all sin, true, but all the same a person cannot be habitual in some sin, they cannot continue in some sin without remorse and without repentance, and call his or herself a Christian. Yes, a Christian may lie or steal through weakness, but a person who habitually lies without feeling any need to repent of it and get right with God (and then doing so) cannot BIBLICALLY claim to be a Christian. A person who makes a lifestyle out of stealing things from other people and continuing in that sin cannot rightly claim to be a Christian. Likewise, homosexuality - which is an ongoing lifestyle - basically proves a person to not be a Christian. Remember, by their FRUIT ye shall know them - fruit is something that develops and grows over time. If grace has to be stretched to cover ongoing, habitual, unrepented of sin, then no grace has been had in the first place.
Without repentance, there is no salvation (Acts 3:19).
Gays can't be Bahá'í, Buddhist, Hindu, Jainist, Zoroastrian, Shinto, Pagan...?
“Gays can’t be Bahá’í, Buddhist, Hindu, Jainist, Zoroastrian, Shinto, Pagan...? “
So you think these are gods?
Legitimate gods?
LOL!
Gays claim to be “Christians” that is not feasible. They can claim whatever label they like but the reality is they are not Christians.
No, I think these are religions.
Legitimate gods?
The gods of the religions I mentioned are certainly venerated by the adherents of these religions, making them "legitimate" within their respective belief systems, just as Jehovah, Christ, and Allah are "legitimate" under Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
Gays claim to be “Christians” that is not feasible. They can claim whatever label they like but the reality is they are not Christians.
You said earlier that all gays were atheists. That's simply untrue on the face of it. Even if we accept (for the sake of argument) that gays cannot be Christian, there are still gay Hindus, Pagans, Zoroastrians, etc., therefore not all gays are atheists. Q.E.D.
It follows, therefore, that it depends on the individual sinner (as indeed it should). If someone is a compulsive liar, or kleptomaniac, or alcoholic or whatever, but realises that what is being done is wrong, then they can still be in a state of grace. Succumbing to temptation means you have committed a sin, but this is not an uncommon event with any Christian. We are all, as is said, “works in progress”.
I agree, what is more dangerous is when someone sins, but does not recognise that what is being done is a sin. If this is done out of ignorance, that is not so bad. If it is done out of some desire to justify their behaviour, that is far worse. When it is a deliberate flouting of God’s commandments, that is the sin of pride and self-will. That is, actually, what is most wrong with the “gay” lifestyle - this idea that they know how to live their life better than God does.
However, as I cannot see into the heart of each and every gay, I would be wary of making a blanket statement. Sure, unreconstructed homosexuals are in a state of sinful rebellion, but then so are unreconstructed hedonists, or unreconstructed humanists. Who can say which is worse? Personally, I just pray for all of them :)
As an aside, the impression I get is that the majority of Atheists are not so much anti-God as anti-Religion, or anti-religous institutions. Would you agree? (or am I totally off-beam?)
I can't separate a believer from his God. I mean, honestly, when was the last time you gave a moment's thought to Thor or Kukulcan?
The principle objection a lot - most, maybe - of atheists have is the use of the State by believers to coerce non-believers in various ways.
It's an exaggeration, but many atheists feel like Dhimmis in America.
There are a lot of things that reinforce this perceived 'Dhimmi status' of atheists in America, but the first that comes to mind is President George H. W. Bush's (alleged) comment at a 1988 news conference in Chicago:
"I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots."[1]
Then there's the forcing of children, by law or through coercion, to acknowledge a God during the Pledge of Allegiance.
Having In God We Trust on our money - money that even the atheist must use to engage in commerce - is a perpetual reminder of the Dhimmi status.
I can imagine it would be difficult for most FReepers, who are proudly Christian, to grasp what I just said. Absolutely understandable.
This scenario may help to illuminate the previous statements:
Imagine you were born and raised in an Islamic country, but you are a Christian. All throughout your life, in spite of the fact that you are a Christian, you are:
Your initial reaction may be to escape the country of your birth and seek refuge somewhere else. Yet, you love your country and you are proud of its history, its future.
That's the situation for most atheists in America.
The atheist community can be largely divided into two camps, based on how each camp wants to address the situation. There is, occasionally, overlap among the two camps.
The Legalistic Camp, populated with people like Michael Newdow[2], seek to force religion (specifically) and supernaturalism (generally) out of the government-supported public sphere. They are intensely focused on ridding the Western world of religion through legal machinations, yet are largely silent - or give lip service to - to the threat of Islam and Islamic terrorism or the War on Terror.
The Cultural Camp is more focused on the promotion of science and skepticism. They largely believe that with increased rationality and skepticism, the last vestiges of faith will wither away. Regarding Islamic terrorism and the War on Terror, this camp is surprisingly hawkish. This due to the fact Islamic terrorists are beyond rational dialogue. The only thing an Islamic terrorist understands is a bullet or a bomb.
The Pledge of Allegiance issue best illustrates how these two camps view the battle. The Legalistic Camp wants to force the courts to remove the phrase "under God" from the Pledge, while the Cultural Camp would support a voucher system - to enable them to send their children to an "atheistic" school - or choose to homeschool their children.
To build on my earlier scenario: If you were a Christian raising a child in an Islamic country and leaving wasn't an option, which would you choose?
The faithful and faithless communities only are at war with each other when the coercive power of government is involved.
I have no desire to disturb a man's faith nor do I care what he does in his church.
If he's right, I'm burning in hell. If I'm right, we're both worm food.
1. SourceWatch.
2. Wikipedia: Michael Newdow
Thor? Last night. No, really...I was re-reading the Walter Simonson run of the Thor comic book.
As for Kukulcan, I'd have to say about 5 years ago. That was the last time I watched the Star Trek animated episode, "How Sharper Than A Serpents Tooth".
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