[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

fyi

[MAD-AS-HELL]

but is it Carbon neutral?

[miliantnutcase]

USB 3.0 FTW!

[D-fendr]

Cool.

Is USB Open or does Intel or someone own it?

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Why the heck haven’t they moved to fiber optic, yet. Transmission should be up in the Terabits per second by now.

[SJSAMPLE]

As a very early adopter of the original USB, I’m amazed that I’ve actually run out of USB ports on my current PC.
Camera
Video camera
iPod
iPhone
Mouse and keyboard
Scanner
Flash memory
Bluetooth transmitter
et al.

USB really has lived up to its promise.

[mamelukesabre]

No mention of firewire 3200?

[Yossarian]

I've had two gripes with USB 2.0, as compared to FireWire:

1. It requires a lot of supervision from the CPU - FireWire is much more independent, and thus frees up the CPU for processing the data as it comes in (or right before it goes out); and
2. it never EVER could sustain the 480 Mbps speed for anything more than a few seconds, making it almost twice as slow as 400Mbps Firewire. (Newer Macs have better implementations of USB, making it now only (roughly) 1.5 times as slow, but still, when you have a lot of data to transfer, that kills.

I hope that USB 3.0 overcomes these deficiencies, so that we can simplify our computers. But now that I have a boatload of FireWire and SATA/eSATA peripherals, that simplification won't happen for me for a good while.

[Jeremiah2]

Has anyone ever seen a computer that had a Firewire 800 port on it? I could even find a card like that. They’re all 400s.

[martin_fierro]

[martin_fierro]

Imagine you're the guy in China who spends all day putting these things together.

[BobS]

OK. New MBs and HW. Bullchit. I built 2 computers based on SCSI-3 with 10 HDs at 15K RPM humming along nice and cool. More memory than the stupidist Obama supporter. How faster can you go?

Anything I do is instantaneous. Milliseconds. And I have spare HDs allready formatted and partioned with the all the programs in the same way for replacements for swap-outs. That has to be done delicately. If only one of those 68 pins has a bad connection - you're screwed to the floor until you find it.

[DevNet]

While not related to USB 3.0 - I thought I would ask anyway.

Can anyone recommend a decent Core i7 motherboard?

[TruthHound]

SCSI will be back!

Long live the Syquest 40!

//sarc//

[ShadowAce]

[Tribune7]

USB 3.0 promises a theoretical maximum rate of 5Gbps,

Firewire, it was good to know ye.

[antiRepublicrat]

I hope they completely re-did the protocols and topology, because that 480 with USB2 is usually quite a bit slower in reality than the lower-specced Firewire 400, and it’s less flexible and puts more load on the system. Remember, USB was designed to be a cheap, low-speed connector. Everything after that was fitting a Porsche turbo engine in a Bug.

IOW, 4.8 Gbps in USB 3 might turn out to be 3 Gbps or less in real life. Firewire 3200 is looking at about 3.2 Gbps real-life throughput and should hit the streets first.

If USB 3 wins, it’ll mainly be because of market forces, not technical merit.