McCain Derangement Syndrome

FR | 1-22-08 | Bob J

[mnehring]

conservatives are going to have to accept more moderates or become totally irrelevant

How has that ever helped us? Conservatives are best when they foster Conservative values- the power of the individual. When was the last time you've heard a Republican really talk about what the individual can do in spite of the government? When was the last time you heard a Republican lift up people and say get government out of your way and you can accomplish anything? When was the last time you heard a Republican talk about the greatness of this country? The last time we had all of these was Reagan. Instead, you may get bits and pieces from some candidates, but most just have another version of "I'm from the government and I'm here to help"...

People have become addicted, we don't need moderates, that is like staying a nursing baby politically, we need to empower people and lift them up, not through government promises but by showing them they have the power over their lives.

[JoJo Gunn]

groin leeches   

 

Apparently McCain is still giving out coffee mugs and key chains. 

[pgkdan]

Sorry. I voted for McCain and supported his campaign and worked 5 or 6 days a week in the last 4 weeks before the election but he has gone out of his way to prove just what a vindictive, self absorbed, backstabbing little bastard he really is. He and his houseboy Lindsey Graham make me sick. The way he stood by and let his campaign savage Sarah Palin made me sick. Now he’s waving the pom poms for Obama! I’ll never support the man again and I’ll never admonish anyone who ever criticizes him.

[Nervous Tick]

Here ya go, bob. Since you're in the mood to use your mouth, why don'tcha take the Greyhound to Washington and lend McCain some oral support. Take these kneepads, by the time you're done "respecting" McLame and all the other RINOs your knees are gonna get a thorough workout.

[CounterCounterCulture]

John McCain, and anybody who dares to defend him, are enemies to our Republic and our civil rights and liberties.

Choke on it, Boob.

[Las Vegas Ron]

Well, I voted a straight Republican ticket, but the only one at the top who I voted for was Palin.

I actually considered not giving my vote to McCain until he picked Palin.

Now that it's over, I wish I had stuck to my original plan.

[org.whodat]

But the MDS people will have none of this. It's either political purity (THEIR political purity BTW) or nothing. Sometimes they remind me of petulant children threatening to hold their breath until they turn blue unless get what they want. Their virulent acrimony toward McCain is so intense that you couldn't post a thread or talk about McCains positions in an adult manner on FR without them descending on it like a plague of locusts, chanting their relevant but worn out jingoisms, attacking anyone with the temerity to desire a review of McCains +/- positions and poisoning any budding, rational discussion.

Actually it was worse than this, and in some threads the same BS goes on today!!

[WheresMyBailout]

I believe most of the anger towards McCain is directed at him because he lost the election. Similarly, Bob Dole was not a popular figure in the Republican Party until some years after his defeat.

McCain was nominated by Republicans because we knew that a conservative like a Tom Tancredo (on immigration), a Ron Paul (on economics), or even a flipped flopped conservative like Mitt Romney would get routed by Clinton or Obama. This theory held some credence when, after McCain picked Sarah Palin, the most popular governor in the country, he was leading Obama by 3 points.

So why did McCain lose? McCain did not lose because of Sarah Palin (most people here on FR understand this). Sarah Palin gave the bounce that McCain needed in August, but it was unreasonable to expect that a Vice Presidential nominee, especially a nominee who refused to change her positions to fit the winds of the time (like a Joe Lieberman), could singlehandedly win the election for the party.

McCain lost because he was too attached to the failed Bush economic policies in 2008, specifically the bank bailouts. Had he come out against the bailout, he would have won the election.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Here's another reason why I'm glad McCain lost. He would have completely ruined Palin's career. Palin would have been VP doing virtually nothing, going to token ceremoniess and funerals, and would have gotten weighed down by McCain. By the time 2012 rolled around, she would have been totally tied to McCain's shenanigans, having to defend his global warming, amnesty for illegals, globalism, etc crap that would have made her poisonous to conservatives, and even then we would have to assume that McCain wasn't going to run for a 2nd term to begin with. If McCain would have ran for a 2nd term in 2012 he would have completely lost, he would be in his mid-70s and the Dems would attack him.

We learned our lesson with McCain. This was a good loss whereas conservatism can be energized without the weight of a moderate McCain administration.

[Just mythoughts]

Excuse me. Where have you been the past 8 years. Lord McCain was front and center on chrissy’s lap planting and pushing hate Bush.

I said I would NEVER vote for this turkey, but yet I held my peace after he got the moderate, social liberal, independents vote to grasp that nomination.

And went and begged his campaign for signs to put in my front lawn. And encouraged everybody I came in contact with to vote for him and Sarah. And I took my family and I went and voted because I knew what it would mean for a Bama win.... But I am NOT going to be insulted or accused of having a derangement syndrome over some liberal loving old man who could not figure out how to present what was at stake in order to win an election.

McCain lost because he did not really want to win, he took a liberal’s word about how campaigns would be financed after he gave the keys to the kingdom to the liberals in his get back at conservatives reform of campaign financing....

Please, your screen name use to have credibility to me when I came across something you had to say but NO MORE!!!!!

[GQuagmire]

Bob J is one of those guys who thinks since he’s been here longer than most that he is some sort of authority here.

[Las Vegas Ron]

I believe most of the anger towards McCain is directed at him because he lost the election

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner NOT,

[JustaDumbBlonde]

Yeah, keep on picking that scab. If you haven’t noticed, McCain and his trusty sidekick, Lindsey Graham, are solidly on Team Obama these days. Give it up.

[OB1kNOb]

[9YearLurker]

Way too vivid there, cripplecreek, but I’m with you. And I admit to a bit of MDS myself. I see red (and that’s not for red state) just reading his name now. He really provokes a strong reaction from me because he is a reminder of just how of course and ‘had’ we were from the start of the primaries—and of just how much we are losing under the new administration.

[Zathras]

I've always respected your opinion Bob but someone has been giving Bush very bad advice for the last 4 years.

My opinion John McCain IS that person and he did it to further his own PERSONAL agenda.

[WheresMyBailout]

Real intelligent response.

[editor-surveyor]

"We could even make this a McCain tribute thread."

Perhaps a new "un-dead thread" where we can come to blow off steam? (and immortalize the stupidity of the author)

[andy58-in-nh]

Sorry, I'm not playing this game. When was the last time you heard a Democrat say something conciliatory and complimentary about a real Republican? Never. Whenever and wherever RINOs gratefully bend over and offer up their dignity, Democrats treat them in the same manner a Lifer treats a new fish in the state penitentiary. John McCain wants so much to be loved by the media, I'd be shocked if he doesn't have the CBS logo tattooed on his back by now.

Conservatives do not need to make themselves more superficially attractive to moderates- they need to give moderates a reason to be more attracted to them. They do not need to sacrifice their principles - they need to explain them, without apology,

[Las Vegas Ron]

Real intelligent response.

Thanks, I didn't want to insult such an idiotic post from a noob who doesn't have a clue why conservatives are pissed at McCain and the fact we had to support such an ass.