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Sarah Palin's daughter, Bristol Palin, says abstinence is unrealistic in interview on Fox News
New York Dail News.com ^ | 02/17/09 | News Staff

Posted on 02/17/2009 6:01:41 AM PST by Big_Monkey

Teen pregnancy? Not really a good idea.

Stopping teen sex? Ain't gonna happen.

So says Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's 18-year-old daughter, Bristol, who told Fox News' Greta Van Susteren Monday night that the abstinence her mom preaches is "not realistic at all."

Bristol Palin's pregnancy, revealed shortly after Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) chose Sarah Palin to be his running mate, shook up the last presidential campaign.

Bristol Palin, who gave birth in late December, described the rigors of being a teen mom, and while she wouldn't go into detail why it isn't realistic for guys and gals her age not to have sex, she did say it isn't smart to get knocked up.

"Everyone should wait 10 years," Palin said. "I hope people learn from my story.

"It's so much easier if you're married, have a house and career. It's not a situation you want to strive for."

She denied that her mother's anti-abortion views were the reason she went ahead with the pregnancy.

"It was my choice to have the baby," she said. "It doesn't matter what my mom's views are on it. It was my decision."

But telling her mom that she and her hockey hunk boyfriend, Levi Johnston, were to be parents was tough, she admitted.

"Harder than labor," she said.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Religion
KEYWORDS: bristol; palin; pregnancy; teen
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I'm sure this will get a lot of play on MSNBC and CNN today.
1 posted on 02/17/2009 6:01:41 AM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: Big_Monkey
Stopping teen sex? Ain't gonna happen.

Gotta agree with her there. Reducing it is realistic.
2 posted on 02/17/2009 6:04:49 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Big_Monkey

Palin raised a kid that has her own opinions. What a scandal.


3 posted on 02/17/2009 6:05:22 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Big_Monkey

Getting support from your family is very important when you go through difficult times. Maybe Bristol should try a little harder to give some.


4 posted on 02/17/2009 6:06:18 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Obama must be the Antichrist. No one else would work so hard to destroy the US.)
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To: Big_Monkey

Funny. It worked for me.


5 posted on 02/17/2009 6:07:07 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Big_Monkey
Yeah? And kids who get bad grades say a 4.0 "isn't realistic". So what? Since when did we let what teenagers think is or isn't realistic influence what's right?
6 posted on 02/17/2009 6:08:18 AM PST by JenB
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To: cripplecreek
Reducing it is realistic.

Keeping expectations high does reduce it. Just because some folks have sex before marriage doesn't change the ideal is to wait until marriage. Further, I don't know a single person that holds the view that sex should wait until marriage that believes no one will get pregnant outside of marriage.

7 posted on 02/17/2009 6:09:11 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Big_Monkey

Democrats will be quick to take abstinence advice from an unwed teen mother.


8 posted on 02/17/2009 6:10:42 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Big_Monkey

Sarah needs to give Bristol the Don Corleone talk, “ I have a sentimental weakness for my children and I spoil them as you can see. They talk when they should listen.”

“Never tell anyone outside of the family what you’re thinking again.”


9 posted on 02/17/2009 6:11:01 AM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Raycpa

Hollywood’s morals are raising our young people.


10 posted on 02/17/2009 6:11:39 AM PST by del4hope (Signed up in 2005 with real Hope. Things aren't hopeless now, but looking grim for taxpayers)
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To: Raycpa

I’m not saying that abstinence shouldn’t be the goal, only that isn’t realistic to think it will stop teens from having sex.


11 posted on 02/17/2009 6:12:34 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Big_Monkey

Of course from the entire Greta interview with Sarah and Bristol, where important comments on the porkulus and censorship doctrine were made, ONLY this will get spouted by the MSM.


12 posted on 02/17/2009 6:13:56 AM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: JenB
Since when did we let what teenagers think is or isn't realistic influence what's right?

I guess you didn't get the email. The thing to be avoided with teens is making them mad by telling them what they can and cannot do. Any parent should try to avoid this at all costs - because we don't want to have an angry teenager running around being told what to do. Teens need the freedom to make lots of big mistakes early in life, otherwise they might get angry because someone told them what to do.
13 posted on 02/17/2009 6:16:48 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: cripplecreek

For thousands of years people have started having sex around the same age. Puberty drives the urge. It is as natural as breathing, eating and sleeping. It is when the natural body feels the need. Can’t change that.


14 posted on 02/17/2009 6:19:05 AM PST by ignorancerunsrampant (Where is the Court of Common Sense?)
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To: cripplecreek

What makes you think Christian’s and others who hold this view expect no child to get pregnant? What makes you think Christian’s and others who hold this view keep their kids ignorant about birth control methods?

Many kids I went to HS with were sexually active and got pregnant and many ended them in abortions. Even my best friend brought his 15 year old girlfriend to NY (one of the two states it was legal) to have an abortion and I know for a fact he had condoms and his girlfriend had free BC pills from planned parenthood. It happens with education, with pills and with condoms.


15 posted on 02/17/2009 6:19:23 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: del4hope
“Hollywood’s morals are raising our young people.”

Exactly, and we also have Hollywood to thank for the the Muslim hatred. I listened to a lecture by a Christian man that was raised as a Muslim in Lebanon. He grew up hating Jews and Christians. He is now a Christian, reaching out to the Muslim world.

He said Muslims love watching American movies and they think all Americans behave just like the characters in their movies.....

16 posted on 02/17/2009 6:20:12 AM PST by Kimmers (Working hard so Obamas friends don't have to)
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To: Big_Monkey
"It was my choice to have the baby," she said. "It doesn't matter what my mom's views are on it. It was my decision."

Therein lies the problem. Selfishness. Not considering the experience of those that know more than she does. 'Pod.

17 posted on 02/17/2009 6:20:45 AM PST by sauropod (An expression of deep worry and concern failed to cross either of Zaphod's faces - hitchhiker's guid)
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To: dfwgator

“Never tell anyone outside of the family what you’re thinking again.”

The older I get, the more I see the wisdom in this. I am talking to myself as well. The older I get, the more I tell everyone what I think. But, I don’t mind telling Freeper family what I think!


18 posted on 02/17/2009 6:21:50 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: cripplecreek
Exactly!!! I raised my son with the knowledge that pre marital sex would cause nothing but heartache, and problems. That you should only have sex within the confines of a long term relationship. I said all the right things knowing full well that after being with his girlfriend for almost two years, the most I could hope for was that they were practicing safe sex.

I did not allow overnights, etc. but to "forbid" it is a exercises in futility. I honestly do not know if my now adult son is a virgin, and I don't want to know (really) but I also did not spend 24 hours a day with him.

The most you can hope for when raising children is that they grow up to be well adjusted, moral, adults. But part of growing up is making your own decisions, and unfortunately your own mistakes. In my case, so far, so good. I have a college freshman (now a single college freshman) that made the Deans list in his first semester!

19 posted on 02/17/2009 6:23:07 AM PST by codercpc
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To: Raycpa

Yeah, her own opinions.

Too bad she’s (if this article interprets her correctly) an idiot.


20 posted on 02/17/2009 6:24:06 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Raycpa
Short of gender specific concentration camps for kids between the age of 13 and 18, we'll never end teen sex. I do think we could help to reduce it considerably with a few simple things like family values (not always sucessfull as the Palin case shows) End the media sexualizing of children is another issue.

Or we could take the liberal route. LOL

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21 posted on 02/17/2009 6:25:26 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

Ditto that...abstinence is unrealistic but what is realistic is self control which no longer exists. But then again, this is just another example how we are heading towards the fate of Ancient Rome.


22 posted on 02/17/2009 6:25:48 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: AD from SpringBay

Right...

Funny, the “don’t have sex” message worked pretty well on me when I was a teenager. I’m not even ten years older than Bristol but she is right that having a baby is a lot easier when you’re not 17.

The whole point of parenting is to try not to let your kid make too big a mistake, right? I’m not going to let my baby eat rat poison just because she needs the freedom to make her own mistakes.


23 posted on 02/17/2009 6:26:38 AM PST by JenB
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To: ignorancerunsrampant
Puberty drives the urge. It is as natural as breathing, eating and sleeping. It is when the natural body feels the need. Can’t change that.

You have to breathe, eat and sleep in order to stay alive. But you have to have sex in order to stay alive? Bad and faulty analogy, IMO.

24 posted on 02/17/2009 6:27:16 AM PST by library user (Rod Blagojevich should have been TIME MAGAZINE'S "Person of the Year.")
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To: cripplecreek

Abstinence works when BOTH parties wish to be abstinent. It is difficult when one or both parties have raging hormones and lots of time on their hands.


25 posted on 02/17/2009 6:28:10 AM PST by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
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To: codercpc

Despite the hype, teen mothers do not always produce children who become teen parents. I was born when my mother was 16 and don’t have any children. None of my 4 sisters had a child before 22 years old either.


26 posted on 02/17/2009 6:28:21 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: library user
But you have to have sex in order to stay alive?

I am sure that some 16 year old boys think that you do!!!

Remember the most you can do is instill you values in them when they are young, and pray to God for the rest.

27 posted on 02/17/2009 6:29:52 AM PST by codercpc
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To: codercpc
Exactly!!! I raised my son with the knowledge that pre marital sex would cause nothing but heartache, and problems.

You are spot on. I lost mine on my 16th birthday. I am 38 years old happily married with two great kids. I only had a couple of other relationships before I met my wife. I was no way a major player but I did not abstain.

I still regret it. It saddens me sometimes. Sex before marriage is empty and causes nothing but trouble. My kids will be taught that. Whether they heed is out of a parents control.

28 posted on 02/17/2009 6:30:09 AM PST by GUNGAGALUNGA
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To: Big_Monkey

Don’t you know, she would have ‘sploded’ if she didn’t do it.

You can raise your children right, but their own stupidity will still get in the way.


29 posted on 02/17/2009 6:30:40 AM PST by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: Big_Monkey
I suspect this gal is filled with Mom questions and probably gets to face 24/7 the consequences of her choices. Life may make her or break her, I pray for her to gain the strength to not let her choices break her.
30 posted on 02/17/2009 6:31:01 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: codercpc

Oh on another note I am not overly religious but I do have a ton of morals. If that makes sense.


31 posted on 02/17/2009 6:31:21 AM PST by GUNGAGALUNGA
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To: AppyPappy

Same here. It takes some self-control. Good grief, my generation is so weak...


32 posted on 02/17/2009 6:32:50 AM PST by indi_girl447 (Hope and Change eh?...Gee, I'm sold...)
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To: cripplecreek

So why did abstinence work in the 50s & 60s? My high school in the 70s had 4000 students. I heard of ONE who became pregnant. I’m sure there were more, but no way it hit 2%.


33 posted on 02/17/2009 6:33:00 AM PST by Mr Rogers ("...business as usual with three extra zeros on the end" - Steyn)
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To: Big_Monkey

The other night I was talking about how my children and I had talked about them courting rather than dating. A 20 year old said, “I was a teen. It’s not going to work. They might do that three or four times, then will start sneaking out.” Gasp! To think I was a teenager when this boy was born and I might know what my children’s personalities are like. The conversation had actually developed over why my 14 year old son isn’t girl crazy and has other interests that he is occupied with. I originally got the idea from a good friend of mine who’s daughters have decided to do the same thing. The hardest part for my son has been his friends bugging him about not having a girlfriend when he says, “I don’t want one.”


34 posted on 02/17/2009 6:34:08 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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So why did abstinence work in the 50s & 60s?

It didn't.
35 posted on 02/17/2009 6:35:40 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Kimmers

Years ago I spoke to a lad in England. From the American movies he thought we were awake 24 hours a day.


36 posted on 02/17/2009 6:36:07 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Big_Monkey
“her mom preaches is “not realistic at all.””

That is, for her and her level of will power and self control.

Since it is a consensual act, and 2 parties must agree to participate, it is very realistic for those who can't get someone to agree.

37 posted on 02/17/2009 6:36:30 AM PST by Never on my watch (Save energy - put the enemy's lights out.)
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To: GUNGAGALUNGA
My kids will be taught that. Whether they heed is out of a parents control.

The most important thing you can do is tell your kids your true feelings on the subject, but also to remember that "in the heat of the moment" they probably won't be thinking about how you told them that is is "empty and causes nothing but trouble".

I have been married to my high school sweetheart for 21 years. He is still my best friend, but I am not naive enough to believe that everyone that gets married at age 19 will be that lucky. I couldn't, with a straight face, tell my son that not having premarital sex was an absolute (because we know that it certainly is not), but I can tell him in all honesty that when you wait for the right person, at the right time there is nothing as spectacular in the world.

38 posted on 02/17/2009 6:36:45 AM PST by codercpc
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To: Raycpa

Exactly. It’s about having standards.

Bristol’s statement seems like the usual after-the-fact justification for a teenager that steps in it. IOW’s “the standard is too high and it is therefore unreasonable to expect me to meet it”. She’ll eventually realize the error, she is now raising a kid of her own.

Unfortunately she just handed the liberals a bumber sticker punchline: “Stopping teen sex? Ain’t gonna happen — Bristol Palin”


39 posted on 02/17/2009 6:37:48 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Raycpa

99.8 % of virgins that marry do not get divorced..

97.2% of Reclaimed virgins that don’t have sex 9 months prior to Marriage don’t get divorced..

Bishop Sheen earlier layed out the whole reasoning in 1955!


40 posted on 02/17/2009 6:38:34 AM PST by philly-d-kidder (May God Bless America and ALL Freepers!)
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To: Big_Monkey

I’m very blunt with the preteen/teen girls in my family. I tell them straight out that all boys want is sex, and they will say or do anything to have sex with you. I also have them (and the preteen/teen boys) watch as I change the diapers on my baby. I tell them... if you want to spend your teenage years doing this instead of going to college, then have sex.


41 posted on 02/17/2009 6:43:31 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: cripplecreek
The media glamorizes this stuff and forces this behavior on young people...who are not psychologically prepared to deal with anything so intense and emotional. The whole thing is inescapable and parents have a hard time de programming that stuff.
42 posted on 02/17/2009 6:45:57 AM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: AppyPappy

Democrats will be quick to advise abortion


43 posted on 02/17/2009 6:46:09 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: codercpc
but I can tell him in all honesty that when you wait for the right person, at the right time there is nothing as spectacular in the world.

Thanks for rubbing it in. LOL!!

I believe that the reason a couple needs to wait is to create a bond. Something I won't have. However, I do have a hell of a marriage but of course it can always be better. Very happy.

44 posted on 02/17/2009 6:46:54 AM PST by GUNGAGALUNGA
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To: AppyPappy

Ditto.


45 posted on 02/17/2009 6:47:35 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: Big_Monkey

NBC’s Today Show was so hypocritical covering this, I was stunned...I know I shouldn’t have been..but...

As for those that want to diminish Sarah Palin via her daughter, her newborn son, etc etc etc...I’ll just note the following.

I’d be very very happy with the Palin family as my neighbors.

wouldn’t you?


46 posted on 02/17/2009 6:51:34 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Mr Rogers
I agree with you. There seem to be a lot of freepers who think the current situation of "hooking up" and "friends with benefits" has always existed. Nope. I graduated HS in 1978 and most people I knew lost their virginity in college.

The whole point of morals (and civilization) is to get humans to behave in unnatural ways. If some guy steps on my toe while waiting in line, my natural response is to pick up a rock and bash his skull. But I don't. I have self control. I have a sense of right and wrong. So, if a 16-year-old boy sees a cute girl, does he want to get her into bed? Yes. Does he need to act on that? No. Self-control is possible, people! This is what moral teachings are all about.

The long history of humanity is the story of human failings and coming up short in the morals department. But that doesn't mean that we give up and say "Go for it!" We're supposed to try to be better than that.

47 posted on 02/17/2009 6:51:39 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Obama must be the Antichrist. No one else would work so hard to destroy the US.)
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To: Mr Rogers
So why did abstinence work in the 50s & 60s? My high school in the 70s had 4000 students. I heard of ONE who became pregnant. I’m sure there were more, but no way it hit 2%.

You don't really think that this means the other 3999 students didn't have sex... Oh please. It means that a whole lot used contraceptives, didn't become pregnant or maybe even had an abortion (hopefully not). It is nonsense to base the number of sexual contact on the number of pregnancies (that were known).

48 posted on 02/17/2009 6:53:58 AM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

You can always beat and lock up your kid when you think they had sex......it works for a lifetime!


49 posted on 02/17/2009 6:54:38 AM PST by Fawn (http://www.stimuluswatch.org/)
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To: SMARTY

Society definitely has encouraged an explosion in teen sex. Even as a teen in the 80s I don’t recall it being anywhere near this bad.

I was in a small school of under 400 students and only know of two teen mothers in my class but I suspect that I was aware of them because they were among my circle of friends. I have little doubt that there were more that I never noticed.

In earlier decades most teen mothers would suddenly “go to a private school” for a year.


50 posted on 02/17/2009 6:55:13 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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