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Sarah Palin's daughter, Bristol Palin, says abstinence is unrealistic in interview on Fox News
New York Dail News.com ^ | 02/17/09 | News Staff

Posted on 02/17/2009 6:01:41 AM PST by Big_Monkey

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To: Crystal Cove
"guess if she doesn’t get married, she just be added to the list of unwed celebrity mothers."

I'm not sure if I detect a hint of sarcasm, or not. I'm certainly not now, or didn't before excuse her "condition". Teenage pregnancy is a problem and usually, if not always, a mistake.

Clearly, these two had no intentions of getting married, at least not in the short-term, before Bristol became pregnant. She (and he) shouldn't rush into anything, especially marriage, while/if she feels pressure from her extraordinary circumstances. Teensage pregancy is a huge problem in America, but so is divorce as well.

Lastly, I wouldn't equate Bristol's circumstance (or any other teenager's for that matter) with the en vogue, and presumably chic, and certainly selfish practice of Hollywood starlets intentionally impregnating themselves to satisfy some narcissistic desire to increase publicity or to sate some other deep-seeded need for personal love and intimacy; which is the reason I presume most starlets find themselves with child and without husbands.

121 posted on 02/17/2009 11:59:35 AM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: pnh102

I don’t really quarrel with your desire to keep the boys off of your daughters (I have 2 daughters myself, 17 and 23 now), it is the means by which you are doing so, by creating that sense in your daughters that men are simply not to be trusted.


122 posted on 02/17/2009 1:06:43 PM PST by dmz
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To: dmz
I don’t really quarrel with your desire to keep the boys off of your daughters (I have 2 daughters myself, 17 and 23 now), it is the means by which you are doing so, by creating that sense in your daughters that men are simply not to be trusted.

Well, I ask myself this... when I was a teenage boy, what attracted me to girls? Was it a love of their intelligence, their personalities, or something deep like that, or was it a superficial desire to have sex? It was definitely the latter. While that desire did temper over time, the fact remains that as teenagers, that's what boys like to do.

I don't think that my daughter should not trust boys. I just want her to know what their intentions are and to not fall into a trap.

123 posted on 02/17/2009 1:14:15 PM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: cripplecreek

Reducing teen sex and pregnancy is working. Despite all of the hand wringing going on here. I wonder how much of it has to dow ith going against the norm. A lot of kids want to be non-conformist.

Seems like raising goal oriented kids is what helps the most. If someone wants to go out and achieve a career they will put off pleasure now. Same as it ever was I guess....


124 posted on 02/17/2009 3:21:35 PM PST by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Mr. Blonde

My oldest sister didn’t have her first and only child till she was 31 and her career as a photographer had a lot to do with that.


125 posted on 02/17/2009 3:24:18 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: MinuteGal
Why is Bristol granting interviews on personal matters is the first place!

She's 18 now, legally able to do just about anything she wishes.

She's already had her whole private life turned into a fish bowl by the leftist media out to get her mom, and couldn't really speak out and defend herself. (I would have been royally pissed, but that's just me)

Just a guess, but, I'm thinking she had a few things to get off her chest. Can't say that I blame her.

Was it wise, or prudent to do so? Perhaps, perhaps not, only time will tell, but it was her call.

126 posted on 02/17/2009 4:36:36 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Big_Monkey

I teach in a very well regarded Catholic secondary school in Australia - a Jesuit school (generally regarded as one of the top two Catholic schools in the country - alongside its brother school in Sydney, and one of the twenty or so top schools in general).

They stress abstinence as the best way for their students. The ideal choice. The choice they hope they’ll all make, and the choice they expect them to take. The boys are left in no doubt of what is and isn’t expected of them.

And then they get on to the practicalities. As a non-Catholic I was rather surprised the first time I encountered it, but they tell the boys all about contraception and how to use it if they decide to have sex. I’ve heard one of the Priests put it pretty simply.

“If you’re having sex before you are married, then you’re committing a sin. What I’d say to you is this - if you’re going to sin, then sin safely.”

In my role as a tutor at the school I have personal pastoral responsibility for 16 boys. I’d always urge them to wait in the strongest terms I can (partly because I believe it’s the right thing to do, partly because it’s my job to help reinforce the message of the school, and partly because I know in most cases their parents want them to wait and I try to back parents) - but I’ve also directed boys to contraception in cases where it’s clear that I’m not going to convince them abstinence is the right choice. I don’t want them having sex - but I want them getting a girl pregnant far less.


127 posted on 02/17/2009 4:49:28 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Kimmers

People who can’t tell the different between fact and fiction are clinically insane.


128 posted on 02/17/2009 5:14:43 PM PST by Borges
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To: AFreeBird; rintense
I agree with all you said and what Rinsense said, also. As I said before, I was commenting on Bristol's television gig from a political, not a personal, approach. I don't know how many ways I can underscore that.

I just hope wiser, more experienced heads will prevail in the future and this was the first and last episode of "All My Children" on national television.

Leni

129 posted on 02/17/2009 5:38:45 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal
Wasn't really going after your comments, just hypothesizing. But, in regards to: "As I said before, I was commenting on Bristol's television gig from a political, not a personal, approach." ; you can't really separate the personal from the political. Not when people are involved, and especially teenage kids.

It may not be pretty, and we may not like the impact from a political point of view, but what would you have the Palin's do, handle things the Kennedy way?

130 posted on 02/17/2009 6:02:27 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird
"What would you have the Palins' do, handle things the Kennedy way?"

Sheesh, no one said a thing about that. No one advocated a cover-up. There's nothing to cover up. What would be more advisable for the Palins', though, is a little shut-up.

What happened happened. Then things happily quieted down (the media, the Sarah detractors, etc. lost interest). Then, suddenly, up pops Bristol on national TV to bring the whole thing to the fore again. For what reason? The press will just make hay of anything and everything she says.

Did the Bush girls or Chelsea get on the tube to explain and remind everyone of their drinking escapades? No. Did the Gore son get on the tube to talk about the escapades with his speeding car and his possession? No. Smart political families know when to leave sleeping dogs lie.

Fortunately, I don't thing most men give a hoot about the life and times of Bristol. I think too many women just love soap operas involving celebrated figures........and just ate it up when the sweet Bristol starred in her first very own national TV interview.

Leni

131 posted on 02/17/2009 6:32:43 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: cripplecreek

“I’m not saying that abstinence shouldn’t be the goal, only that isn’t realistic to think it will stop teens from having sex.”

No... actually abstinence will stop teens from having sex.

The lack of abstinence... now that won’t do anything to prevent teen sex. In fact, studies show that 100% of teens who do not practice abstinence have sex. Shocking, I know.


132 posted on 02/17/2009 6:51:14 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Welcome to the brave new world...)
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To: MinuteGal
What's next, a new "Mommie Dearest" book?

Now where did I see that thought? Oh Right DU yesterday.

In may be a cliche about cons being a little behind the PC social curve, but it's true.

133 posted on 02/17/2009 11:39:01 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ( As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities. - D)
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To: FFranco
As Katherine Hepburn said to Humphrey Bogart in The African Queen: "Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we are to rise above."

That's why some smart people have invented various ways of decoupling sex from reproduction when the situation so indicates.

134 posted on 02/18/2009 4:22:45 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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