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Obama's vote of confidence? DOW 6762 S&P 700
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Posted on 03/02/2009 1:05:06 PM PST by anonsquared

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To: wolf24

One truth about government interference with the market...they can always take a bad situation and make it worse...


21 posted on 03/02/2009 1:18:03 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Beware, world! I haz camera!)
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To: wolf24

Wrong. You are falling into Obama’s crsis nonsense.

Socialism. He is about 5 x worse than Carter. He is Mugabe and Chavez. The market is discounting that there may not a Constitution left.


22 posted on 03/02/2009 1:20:53 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: benjibrowder

“I don’t think Obama could get enough states to sign onto the Amendment.”

Well... What about the “golden rule” (”He who has the gold makes the rules”).

With so many states clamoring for fed aid, you don’t think he could get them to do whatever he wants?

I know I’m a pessimist, but I frankly expect changes to our constitution before he’s through. Think “Right to health care” or “Right to employment”, etc...


23 posted on 03/02/2009 1:21:14 PM PST by Pessimist
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To: anonsquared

Obama Meltdown Continues

Pray for America, Our Troops and obama’s Failure


24 posted on 03/02/2009 1:21:25 PM PST by bray (Welcome to the USSA!)
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To: anonsquared

short of a full blown revolution what can we the people do legally to stop what is going on? impeachment would involve the current house and seate would it not? and if so that would never happen with the idiots controlling both. tea parties aren’t going to get us anywhere. so i ask what legal proceedings can be brought?


25 posted on 03/02/2009 1:21:26 PM PST by tatsinfla
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To: wolf24
Obama is not causing this free fall. It would have happened regardless.

You mean to tell me that if Obama had come out and said he was cutting capital gains taxes and income tax rates the market would have fallen regardless? I don't think so.

26 posted on 03/02/2009 1:22:22 PM PST by tsmith130 (If I had wanted him to succeed, I would have voted for him. I didn't...so I don't.)
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To: Pessimist
With so many states clamoring for fed aid, you don’t think he could get them to do whatever he wants?

that would be a really quick way to get secession started and having state repudiate their debts.

27 posted on 03/02/2009 1:22:33 PM PST by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: Pessimist
With so many states clamoring for fed aid, you don’t think he could get them to do whatever he wants?

that would be a really quick way to get secession started and having state repudiate their debts.

28 posted on 03/02/2009 1:23:13 PM PST by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: wolf24

Agree with a lot of that but his additional taxes and massive debt ridden spending will only serve to further restrict the resources of the private economy. The market is, at least partially, reacting to his anti-growth plans.


30 posted on 03/02/2009 1:25:38 PM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: All

Cavuto just showed a montage of our Liar-in-Chief declaring “no earmarks”.

There in part is why the markets are falling - LIES, LIES, AND MORE LIES!


31 posted on 03/02/2009 1:25:49 PM PST by anonsquared
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To: Ceoman

Yes. Hannity said $100 per pound steaks.


33 posted on 03/02/2009 1:27:31 PM PST by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Pessimist

He would need 37-38 states. I can’t imagine him getting that many. Regardless of bailout or not. Hell, states are already trying to assert their 10th amendment rights.


34 posted on 03/02/2009 1:27:56 PM PST by benjibrowder (Looking forward to kicking Obama out of office in 2012.)
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No Hope and Brother, can you spare some Change?
36 posted on 03/02/2009 1:28:36 PM PST by DemforBush (Somebody wake me when sanity has returned to the nation.)
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To: anonsquared
From now on, every time I see one of these "Dow drops X" threads, I'm gonna post how much Treasury prices have increased (ie yields have dropped). Why everyone cheers the dropping Dow as if it's some indictment of Hussein is beyond me. It just shows how much smarter their team is than the pathetic roster of conservatives.

GET A CLUE PEOPLE! I've said it countless times: DC is going to show NYC hedge funds & SV venture funds how it's really done. They're gonna get a 10-20x banger with $trillions of free credit deployed.

You have to hand it to them, it really is a master stroke. Instead of the normally messy activities associated with nationalization/confiscation, like shooting people, gulags, etc, they're simply going to acquire the means of production by purchasing them!

The rest of the country likes socialism! Jeez, how long will people continue to deny this fact? He’s got a 65%+ approval rating - they want .gov to buy up the means of production (with your money by the way) so as to control income (jobs) and wealth.

Btw, Denninger is the saddest creature of all. He was convinced Hussein was a reform candidate who would come in and prosecute corruption. Little did he know that Hussein tailored his H&C message perfectly in order to get into position so as to leverage a pre-existing corrupt government to further his communist agenda.

37 posted on 03/02/2009 1:28:56 PM PST by semantic
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To: wolf24
Agree 100%. He is accelerating this thing and his actions are going to make things a hellava lost worse than they needed to be.

Gotcha and I agree.

38 posted on 03/02/2009 1:29:49 PM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: wolf24

Motives? I’m starting to wonder if the market meltdown was orchestrated to keep the baby boomers from being able to retire. Gotta keep those galley slaves rowing!


39 posted on 03/02/2009 1:30:06 PM PST by anonsquared
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To: wolf24

I’ll borrow that ‘compound stupidity’ phrase, and compliment you as I do.

I’m not sure the free fall would have happened if they’d have taken different courses of action earlier on, and with policies that had the effect of completely destroying confidence in the markets.

We may be on the verge of capitulation.

I remember telling colleagues that 7900 would be an evaluation point to reenter the market. We’re know 1250 below that mark, and there’s no way I’d get back in right now.

At this rate, we could be at 5300 by the end of March. I can’t believe I’m writing that. I was hoping against hope the market was going to dip one more time down to 8200 so I could buy back in. It was cycling between 9500 and 7800 for the last year or so. 6750 and I don’t see a bottom. Original funding for the Iraq war was 80 Billion and the left had a cow. Now AIG loses $61.6B in a QUARTER? $30B lifeline doesnt’ seem all that helpful.


40 posted on 03/02/2009 1:31:22 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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