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JPMorgan Chase to Increase India Outsourcing 25%
Businessweek ^ | March 9, 2009 | Pankaj Mishra

Posted on 03/11/2009 7:16:27 PM PDT by driftdiver

The second-biggest bank of the US, JP Morgan Chase, which acquired Washington Mutual and Bear Stearns recently, will increase its outsourcing to India by 25% this year to nearly $400 million. It will also manage the integration of the acquired companies from India to bring down the cost of integrating different information technology (IT) systems.

Right now, JP Morgan outsources $250-300 million worth of IT and back-office projects every year to Cognizant, TCS and Accenture, apart from to its own captive centre in Mumbai.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessweek.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: bailouts; cheaplabor; india; offshore
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To: pnh102

Whatever. I’m one of those taxpayers and I don’t care if they ship jobs overseas, and I doubt the average customer service representative (or whatever jobs they sent to India) pays much in the way of taxes anyway. I want them to do whatever improves their bottom line to maximize the chance we see a return on the TARP money we invested in them.


21 posted on 03/11/2009 9:34:06 PM PDT by Arguendo
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To: Arguendo

“They aren’t using the money to send jobs overseas, presumably they’re saving money by sending jobs overseas, only increasing the (already near 100%) chance that the taxpayers will get the money back.”

Yeah ok, their boss is close with BO. Didn’t BO make a bunch of campaign promises about not sending jobs overseas?

And now he’s helping companies pay for sending our jobs overseas. Cutting thousands of high paying jobs instead of creating jobs like he’s been promising.


22 posted on 03/12/2009 2:43:30 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Arguendo

“You hope the one remaining major American bank that’s still healthy goes under because they moved a few jobs overseas?”

There are a lot of healthy American Banks. Just not a lot of healthy american banks who made bad business decisions.


23 posted on 03/12/2009 2:44:29 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

in all fairness, they were force fed the $25 billion — their competitors got it, and they needed to get the same to keep competition even.


24 posted on 03/12/2009 3:59:06 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: Cronos

“in all fairness, they were force fed the $25 billion — their competitors got it, and they needed to get the same to keep competition even.”

Not buying it, they took it because they wanted to. They are shipping the jobs overseas because they want to.


25 posted on 03/12/2009 4:07:35 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Arguendo; pnh102

They were practically FORCED to take the TARP money. They didn’t need it, they were/are not in trouble. IF your major competitors get 25 b from the govt, then your competitiveness gets affected through no fault of yours. To level things out, the bulge bracket banks ALL got the funds.


26 posted on 03/12/2009 4:37:45 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: pnh102; Arguendo
That is silly. A strong bank buying out a weaker one will only weaken the strong bank. The weak banks should have been allowed to fail.

Both wrong. A Strong bank that buys out a one that is failing gets it's assets, customers, skilled people, branches, etc. for cheap. If you run a shop and your competitor fails, you can get his customers, his skilled workers and his land for cheap.

If a weak bank is allowed to fail, then you have the same situation that happened when Lehman failed -- near global economic meltdown.
27 posted on 03/12/2009 4:39:47 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: driftdiver; Arguendo
Arguendo said "the one remaining major American bank that's still healthy" --> key word: "major" -- the bulge-bracket or giant banks. Yes, there are many smaller banks that are doing well as you point out, but Arguendo was referring to a specific subset of banks...
28 posted on 03/12/2009 4:41:58 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: driftdiver

They took it as they were forced it — and if you’re getting money for nothing, wouldn’t you?


29 posted on 03/12/2009 4:42:35 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: Cronos

Thank you.

It’s one thing to oppose TARP—I’m certainly no fan—but the hatred people on this site display for every bank and banker involved in it (and even many banks who personally had nothing to do with it) is astounding. You’d think you stumbled onto DU or something.


30 posted on 03/12/2009 4:52:03 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: Arguendo
I think the hatred is knee-jerk and mostly spouted by folks who have no clue (as witnessed by the person saying that "Why else would they take the money if they were not in trouble?" -- commenting for the sake of commenting.

I don't think this entire crisis was caused only by bankers -- a lot of other people were also complicite -- from the govt allowing lending to be more free-er to sub-primes, to lenders, to Fannie-Mae, Freddie Mac, to the loan takers who didn't think -- to a lot of other folks like you and me who plied in money into funds to buy this stuff and keep the vicious cycle moving. A lot of blame to go around to a lot of people.
31 posted on 03/12/2009 5:11:25 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: Cronos

I disagree with them getting money, I disagree with them being ‘encouraged’ to take it. Most of all I disagree with companies getting a bailout sending jobs overseas.


32 posted on 03/12/2009 5:18:16 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Arguendo

The Wall Street Journal is the paper of record for useful idiots, having become useless shills for the business (now welfare welfare) elite long ago. The JP Morgan was bailed out by tarp as were all banks and AIG. They would have died with the rest of Bank of America and Citigroup without cash injections. TARP is only the tip of the iceberg, hundreds of billions more have been shoveled via the friendly elves at the federal reserve into them all without public knowledge or even superficial congressional oversight. The biggest fly in the ointment that few have recognized is counter-party risks. Banks owe each other money and if one of the big ones die, the others are set to enjoy the crap sandwich as well.


33 posted on 03/12/2009 5:53:44 AM PDT by cmdjing
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To: cmdjing
The JP Morgan was bailed out by tarp...

"The JP Morgan"? You don't even know the name of the company; why on earth should I assume you know anything else about the situation?

There's not a chance in the world JPMorgan would have failed.

34 posted on 03/12/2009 6:18:28 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: Arguendo; cmdjing

Actually neither of you are correct, assuming you go with their public branded name and not 1 of the hundred other names they use.

Quibbling over a space is pretty desperate.


35 posted on 03/12/2009 6:22:44 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver; cmdjing

It’s not the space, it’s the “the” he put before their name. I wouldn’t quibble over a space, but adding “the” makes it sound like he’s completely unfamiliar with Wall Street, which makes his commentary on JPMorgan’s financial health laughable.


36 posted on 03/12/2009 6:31:16 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: driftdiver

Valid enough — however as I said, they were ‘encouraged’ or ‘forced’ to take the money. Now, sending jobs overseas — the tricky thing is that it’s not sending a job overseas but importing a service, just like importing some goods. It’s nearly impossible in a connected world to stop services and goods from being imported or exported.


37 posted on 03/12/2009 6:47:17 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: Arguendo

It was a typographical error caused by my rush to click post and I didn’t bother to proof read. Whaaagh Whaaaagh JP Morgan can’t fail. Just like how GM, Ford, Chrysler, AIG, Citigroup, Bank of America, Wachovia, WaMu, GE soon enough, et al couldn’t fail. Let me guess, you are busy growing Kudlow’s mustard seed.


38 posted on 03/12/2009 4:50:51 PM PDT by cmdjing
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To: Cronos

“the tricky thing is that it’s not sending a job overseas but importing a service, just like importing some goods”

The work is being done overseas. The money is being sent overseas. The money stays overseas.

The only ‘import’ is the software or documentation associated with their product.

Its sending jobs overseas, pure and simple.


39 posted on 03/12/2009 5:13:43 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
The work is being done overseas. The money is being sent overseas. The money stays overseas. The only ‘import’ is the software or documentation associated with their product.

And how is that different from importing a product? The work for a product (say a German car) is being bone in Germany. The money is being sent overseas to Germany. The money stays in Germany. The only 'import' is the car.

This is importing a service, not exporting jobs, or else we could also say we are exporting jobs when we buy a German car, a Japanese TV set or a Scotch bottle of whisky.
40 posted on 03/13/2009 11:32:05 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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