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REVOLT AT THE STATEHOUSE (Indiana Tea Party)
March 25, 2009 | appleseed

Posted on 03/25/2009 12:34:52 PM PDT by appleseed

This was strictly an Indiana protest against taxes held in the north end of the rotunda at the Indiana statehouse. This was an excellent warmup to the nation wide April 15 teaparty. Some of the topics discussed were “Increasing Debt: Mortgaging Our Children’s Future,” “The Colts, Pacers and the Capital Improvement Board,” “Run over by the Speedway Redevelopment Commission,” “Lobbying and Ethics Reform,” “Transparency and Accountability in Government,” “Pay to Play Politics, Indiana Style,” and “Fun and Games in Evansville.”

The protest started at 1130 and lasted for about an hour and a half. It was civil in the Hoosier tradition but very vocal. I spoke with a State Trooper and he estimated the crowd at between 250 - 300 people. Here's a few pic's of the highlights:

My 2 favorite guys at the protest. The fella on the right is a Navy Vet. and gave me a full history of this flag:

This gentleman was there to bring awareness to Alex Jones' website infowars.com. He's a local landscaper and has done fine work in my area:



TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bho44; bogus; communists; corruption; democrats; indiana; indianapolis; melbrensuck; obama; pacers; pacerssuck; phony; revolt; revolution; simon; simonssuck; socialism; socialist; taxes; teaparty
My wife and I noticed some of the state legislators walking by the protest very quickly. Some peeked in from the balcony on the 2nd and 3rd floors. What a bunch of cowards. We left the statehouse out the north enterance where all the state legislators park their high priced rides with their elite state license plates. We walked 8 blocks to the parking garage where we parked on the 11th floor got into my 1997 honda with 1500,000 miles paid the $5 fee and drove home.

On April 15th we will write a $1300 check to this state for taxes, along with $700 to the Feds.. Apparently our local taxes tripled last year. If we are considered rich - we're in big trouble!!! I'm freakin sick and tired of what our country has come to. We're trying everything we can to make our voices heard by peaceful protests and what do we get, 0bama on Letterman making fun of handicapped persons, 0bama on 60 minutes "punch drunk" or as I suspect punch high, laughing it up over our economy. What the hell is wrong with this picture? We'll go the national teaparty held in Indy on April 15th. After that if things don't get better, God help us because I don't think I'm the only one that's had enough of this freakin socialist/0bama BS!

1 posted on 03/25/2009 12:34:52 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: appleseed

“1500,000 miles”

My goodness. Time to buy a Honda. :)


2 posted on 03/25/2009 12:39:45 PM PDT by TheZMan ("I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.")
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To: appleseed; momofthreesons

Wonderful!!!


3 posted on 03/25/2009 12:39:57 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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To: LadyPilgrim

Why have the MSM apparently imposed a news blackout on the tea party protests? I have not heard one word about the tea parties in the MSM. It’s as if they aren’t going on. Are they ignoring inconvenient truths, such as the fact that there is significant opposition to Obama out there?

I thought we’re supposed to confront inconvenient truths, but I guess that only applies to liberal causes or if you have the gravitas of an Al Gore.


4 posted on 03/25/2009 12:44:02 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: TheZMan

Holy cow! It better last that long at the rate my money is going to local, state and Fed. government. Should read 150,000.


5 posted on 03/25/2009 12:44:02 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: appleseed

53% of the voting population voted for socialism. That so many are surprised that we are getting the socialism promised is a bit confusing.

I share your angst but am at a loss as to the solution, other than a huge amount of civics, history and economic education.

The problem is that the needed education will not be provided in the schools we are all paying too much for.

It is up to all of us to provide the instruction at all possible opportunities


6 posted on 03/25/2009 12:44:17 PM PDT by rbbeachkid (The ONLY ones able to fix the economy - Small Business Owners!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Sorry, I forgot to add that I noticed local news channels 8, 13 and Fox 59 at the protest. I’ll post links if they decide it makes the cut.


7 posted on 03/25/2009 12:46:18 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: appleseed
You managed to catch me on film. I'm the tall guy about in the middleof the first picture with his back to the camera.

Our local GOP State Senator, Bruce Borders from Jasonville, stopped by each booth and talked with each person. He was the only legislator I saw walking around with ID on display.

8 posted on 03/25/2009 12:48:49 PM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: rbbeachkid

Remember that not all of that 53% knew what they were voting for. They fall into that gray area in the middle; the uninformed, apathetic masses.

They followed a guy who read speeches really well and looked like a fresh change from Bush. In fact, many have said that the 2008 election was pure Bush-backlash.

So no, 53% did not vote for socialism.


9 posted on 03/25/2009 12:49:46 PM PDT by TheZMan ("I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.")
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To: Dilbert San Diego

You are correct! Total blackout. We got to get more people involved!!! Then....maybe...just maybe.....

Life in this country is different for the liberals than for the hard working folk.

Hey....I thought you knew that! :-)


10 posted on 03/25/2009 12:51:57 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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To: Military family member

I was looking for you but when we got there my wife had to pee, get a cup of coffee on the first floor, etc, etc. Once I got her satisfied the show had already started. Are you gonna make the one on April 15th?


11 posted on 03/25/2009 1:04:18 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: appleseed

I may. I just hope the legislation is still in session.


12 posted on 03/25/2009 1:07:18 PM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: appleseed

Very cool. Thanks for the update and pictures. I usually watch ch.8 news so I’ll be watching to see if this makes it on TV.


13 posted on 03/25/2009 1:19:18 PM PDT by slugbug (I love my country. I fear my government.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Why have the MSM apparently imposed a news blackout on the tea party protests?

One solution would be to hold them in front of AIG execs homes.

14 posted on 03/25/2009 1:52:04 PM PDT by fellowpatriot
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To: slugbug

Just saw it on Channel 8. They showed some of the In. lawmakers ducking and weaving. I’m calling Cowards!!!


15 posted on 03/25/2009 3:10:58 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: appleseed

Group gather for Statehouse rally:

http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/politics/Group_host_Revolt_at_the_Statehouse_20090325

Protesters hold rally at Statehouse:

http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=10066549

Ecletctic group gathers for Indiana Statehouse rally:

http://www.fox59.com/pages/landing_news/?Ecletctic-group-gathers-for-Indiana-Stat=1&blockID=248992&feedID=2319


16 posted on 03/25/2009 3:31:48 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: TheZMan

He really never pretended to be anything different.


17 posted on 03/25/2009 5:44:01 PM PDT by rbbeachkid (The ONLY ones able to fix the economy - Small Business Owners!)
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To: appleseed
Add your Tea Party here:


18 posted on 03/26/2009 6:29:00 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Dilbert San Diego; All

Dilbert, as it turns out you are correct:

From an email, FYI:

CHANNEL 8’s COVERAGE by political reporter Jim Shella
http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/politics/Group_host_Revolt_at_the_Statehouse_20090325 .

The original Channel 8 report which aired at noon was scrubbed from the internet by 6pm on Wednesday, March 25th. Notice how there are two date stamps on the Channel 8 coverage? He came back from the event after laughing at us, calling us “whack jobs” all day and headed straight to the editing room to put together that “hit piece” against taxpayers.

Now, compare Shella’s report to other unbiased coverage around Indiana, and if you agree Shella’s coverage was malicious and biased, please forward this message to every email list you are on and don’t let the media manipulate what people think of taxpayers who stand up for transparency and the rule of law!

CHICAGO TRIBUNE
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-in-xgr-taxpayerrally,0,3795629.story

INDY STAR
http://www.indystar.com/article/20090325/NEWS0501/

WIBC
http://www.wibc.com/news/Story.aspx?id=1075529

COURIER PRESS (Evansville)
http://www.courierpress.com/news/2009/mar/25/protesters-revolt-at-statehouse/

GARY POST TRIBUNE
http://www.post-trib.com/news/elections/1496175,ga-rally.article

Yesterday, an email list we saw suggested a boycott of WISH-TV advertisers like statewide grocer to the masses, Marsh Supermarkets who is also a big sponsor of the Indianapolis Pacers. You will recall from listening to several of the rally speakers, that taxpayers have a big problem brewing with a push to make taxpayers bailout the billionaire team owners of the Colts and Pacers.

Shella’s television coverage gave no mention of the sports bailout.

http://revoltatthestatehouse.blogspot.com/2009/03/revolt-news-coverage-compare-hit-piece.html


19 posted on 03/27/2009 12:48:06 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: unixfox

Check out post 19. This is what we are up against!


20 posted on 03/27/2009 12:50:07 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: appleseed

I hadn’t heard. Are we supposed to bail out the Simon’s? They must have lost a bundle on the the shopping malls, Pacers.

Unbelievable.


21 posted on 03/27/2009 12:57:41 PM PDT by dforest
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To: indylindy
Are we supposed to bail out the Simon’s? They must have lost a bundle on the the shopping malls, Pacers.

A new alcohol tax is in the works to force taxpayers to give money to Herb Simon. He claims the team is losing money. I don't think his "losses" take into account television revenue, however. They leave that out of the figures so they can steal more money from taxpayers.
22 posted on 03/27/2009 1:02:16 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

Quite frankly, Herb, Mel, all the Simon’s made their bed. They can take the worthless Pacers straight out of town with them.

I am sick of bailing out all these people. I am a rather...well...not wealthy person. I don’t ask for bailouts when times get rough.

The performance and attendance at Pacer games in the last couple of years is proof we can all get by without them.


23 posted on 03/27/2009 1:25:32 PM PDT by dforest
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To: mysterio
They leave that out of the figures so they can steal more money from taxpayers.

The Simons have been very good to Indianapolis for a long time, not just with their business, but also with the Pacers. Those that have lived in Indianapolis for a long time will remember that the Simons bought the Pacers as a favor to the city in order to prevent the team from being moved, and they took heavy losses on the Pacers for a lot of years--the Pacers say that the team has lost $200 million since the Simons bought it.

As far as "stealing" money from the taxpayers, the Simons could well have up and moved out of Indy when they built their new headquarters, which, incidentally, was paid for with private funds. The Simons have given a lot to the city of Indianapolis, and I think it's fair for Herb to note that he's not running a charity for the sake of Indianapolis and if the city wants to keep the team, it can step up to the plate in paying the Fieldhouse's costs (which, incidentally, is owned by the city).

24 posted on 03/27/2009 1:34:13 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: indylindy
Herb, Mel, all the Simon’s made their bed. They can take the worthless Pacers straight out of town with them.

How many jobs would the Simons take out of town with them?

25 posted on 03/27/2009 1:36:11 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

Frankly, I don’t give a damn anymore.


26 posted on 03/27/2009 1:42:30 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Publius Valerius

You are nuts. We have done fine without the thug Pacers. If anything they have been a national embarrassment.

The Simons are big RAT supporters. They can pound sand.


27 posted on 03/27/2009 1:44:50 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Publius Valerius
the Pacers say that the team has lost $200 million since the Simons bought it.

Does that number include television revenue brought in by the Pacers? I bet it doesn't.

If the Pacers are an insolvent business, perhaps they should pay their players less and rethink their business strategy.

As far as "stealing" money from the taxpayers, the Simons could well have up and moved out of Indy when they built their new headquarters

So that excuses stealing money from taxpayers? They are a business. Businesses should not have to demand tax dollars to remain solvent.

I think it's fair for Herb to note that he's not running a charity for the sake of Indianapolis and if the city wants to keep the team, it can step up to the plate in paying the Fieldhouse's costs (which, incidentally, is owned by the city).

I don't support bailouts for businesses. The Simons should figure out a way to make their business work or declare bankruptcy.
28 posted on 03/27/2009 1:47:32 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio
Does that number include television revenue brought in by the Pacers? I bet it doesn't.

The Pacers are privately owned and have no obligation to make their books public. We (me and you) have no idea what financial situation the Pacers are in other than the Pacers statement that the Simons have eaten $200 million on the team since they bought it. Given the Simons' unquestioned reputation for honesty, I have no reason to doubt the number that they provide.

So that excuses stealing money from taxpayers? They are a business. Businesses should not have to demand tax dollars to remain solvent.

Simon Property Group is not demanding money to stay solvent. Herb Simon has simply said that he's no longer interested in running the Pacers as a charity for the city, and if the city wants to keep the team, the city can step up and pay for the maintenance on the Fieldhouse.

Also, I think it's worth noting what Simon is proposing: he's not asking the city's support for the Pacers itself, he's merely saying that the Pacers are no longer going to pay for the Fieldhouse's operating expenses, which the Simons do not own.

The Simons should figure out a way to make their business work or declare bankruptcy.

Again, Simon Property Group--and its charitable arm, Simon Youth Foundation--is doing quite well and has given tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars to the city of Indianapolis over the years. All the Simons are saying is that they are no longer going to donate the Pacers to the city.

29 posted on 03/27/2009 2:03:03 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: indylindy
They can pound sand.

Like I said before, how many jobs are they going to take with them?

How long have you lived in Indianapolis? Before 1980? Do you remember what Indianapolis looked like then? Take a moment and think about that, and think about what Indy would look like without the Simons. There would be no Pacers, there would be no Colts, there would be no Circle Centre Mall, there would be no development downtown, probably no Victory Field (if the Indians were still in the city, not likely after Bush Stadium became unuseable), likely no NCAA Headquarters, etc. Indy would be what it was before 1980: a third-rate cowtown.

Yeah, I sure wish the Simons would leave and take all their money and jobs and development with them.

30 posted on 03/27/2009 2:07:36 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: indylindy

I worked exec. and estate security at the mansion property on Ditch for a while. I was given a several page non-disclosure to sign before I hired on. Never signed it. Doesn’t mean if push came to shove all of a sudden a signature would appear on it. I was there just long enough to see that ain’t what I believe in or stand for.

Simon’s have indeed contributed to the Simon Cancer Center at IU Hospital which is now open for business. They contibuted to Riley Hospital phase 5 which is currently on hold for economic reasons. Maybe it’s like some folks say a big tax write-off and free publicity. Their son did die of cancer and they have a memorial on their property to him. I thank them for their contribution. However, when I look at the whole picture, I see something that just doesn’t sit well with me. No sir - doesn’t sit well with me at all!!!

Just my way of life, but I don’t shop at malls or support the thug acting Pacers.


31 posted on 03/27/2009 2:20:13 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: Publius Valerius
The Pacers are privately owned and have no obligation to make their books public.

They have no right to lie about their income. They are getting taxpayer bailouts. There's no way that team has lost money every year. And if they did lose money every year, they are paying players too much. But I bet they aren't including what they get from TV revenue.

Herb Simon has simply said that he's no longer interested in running the Pacers as a charity for the city, and if the city wants to keep the team, the city can step up and pay for the maintenance on the Fieldhouse.

If his business is insolvent, he should declare bankruptcy.

All the Simons are saying is that they are no longer going to donate the Pacers to the city.

BS. They are pissed off because the Irsays got a bigger golden palace than the Pacers did, so the Simons are going after their piece of the pie. It's corporate welfare.
32 posted on 03/27/2009 2:21:59 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio
They have no right to lie about their income.

There's no indication that they are. In fact, that would be highly unlikely, again due to their unquestioned reputation for honesty. You're just making things up.

If his business is insolvent, he should declare bankruptcy.

He won't declare bankruptcy, he'll just sell the team and let someone move it to Kansas City.

BS. They are pissed off because the Irsays got a bigger golden palace than the Pacers did,

He told you that? Sounded to me like he said that he was through losing money on the team every year. Of course, I don't have the same inside connection you do, though, since you seem to know the Pacers' finances AND Herb's reasoning for why he's going to sell the team.

33 posted on 03/27/2009 2:26:18 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

I can appreciate your pride in our city. I moved here in 1994 after globetrotting and living in a lot of great states. Indy is my home now and will always be as long as our good Lord will let me. My wife is a native and my father inlaw is pastor of our church. I love this place and it’s people.

I have to disagree however on the belief that the Simon machine has made this such a great place to live. I’ve seen all sides of our great state. I’ve worked in some interesting positions. I think that what makes us great is the Hoosier attitude that I see every day in my rural location and every Sunday in folks who have put heart mind and soul into my community without a care of recognition or praise for what they do every day. To me, we are one of the top places to live because of regular folks like those I deal with every day - not high profile, big money buying influence peddlers that make the news and demand recognition for their influence and power.

I would rather break bread with my folks at a pitch in at our church wearing a flanel shirt than wear a black tie and tails and sip champagne with high power political movers and shakers who are as phony as Hillary Clinton’s smile.


34 posted on 03/27/2009 2:46:11 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: appleseed

Hey, the Simons took it all in a tax break. Why is it that people like you and me think that for some reason we owe them something. Many members of my family have died of cancer too.

We have contributed too, Not what the Simon’s have, but we too, have contributed.

This is not a reason to bail out Simons.
Besides, the butthole they supported in the election sees no reason to give a break to charitable contributions.

Their boy Obama told them to Kiss his A*S.


35 posted on 03/27/2009 2:47:49 PM PDT by dforest
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To: indylindy
Why is it that people like you and me think that for some reason we owe them something. Many members of my family have died of cancer too.

My family has also suffered from cancer. I don't owe the Simon's anything. My memorial to my Dad who died a few years ago of lymphoma is his steel mill hard hat and his picture next to my computer. Not as elaborate as a shrine but good enough for me.

We have contributed too, Not what the Simon’s have, but we too, have contributed.

Our contributions are sincere and often times in private where us the good Lord know.

This is not a reason to bail out Simons. Besides, the butthole they supported in the election sees no reason to give a break to charitable contributions.

In my opinion there is absolutely no reason to bail out a Simon. They rabidly support any liberal Democrat with money that would boggle your mind. The kind of money they spend to promote their agenda would support my family for several years in a lavish lifestyle.

Their boy Obama told them to Kiss his A*S.

Then why did they give soooo much to his lavish inauguration?

36 posted on 03/27/2009 3:10:27 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: Publius Valerius
He won't declare bankruptcy, he'll just sell the team and let someone move it to Kansas City.

That's always an option. Also, they could consider expenses versus income and stop spending more than they bring in. They could try offering a more attractive product. There are many things a business can do to remain solvent.
37 posted on 03/27/2009 4:08:23 PM PDT by mysterio
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