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Do masks work at preventing flu? (Vanity)
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Posted on 04/27/2009 7:14:22 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy

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To: cornfedcowboy
The important thing is that it makes people FEEL good, like they're doing something that makes a difference.

Reality is irrelevant when it comes to manufactured crises of any kind, whether it be Y2K, global-warming or any other panic-scam.

21 posted on 04/27/2009 7:46:51 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Hodar

I realize that, but the virus is usually spread inside larger drops of mucus. A mask would do nothing if the uncontained virus was sprayed in your direction; but would help if the virus was inside mucus drops spread by coughing or sneezing which is spreading much larger drops containing the virus inside.

I do think a mask would be somewhat effective- but of course it would not be capable of providing complete protection. I think an overall plan which includes a mask if one has to go out amongst people in an epidemic cannot hurt.


22 posted on 04/27/2009 7:58:37 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: cornfedcowboy
At the least, wearing a mask that covers the nose and mouth will prevent a person from touching their nose and mouth till they can get home and wash their hands.

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23 posted on 04/27/2009 8:04:54 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: cornfedcowboy

Better than nothing but a respirator, even an N95, is far more effective than any mask. IMHO, they are more comfortable too. A little too scary looking for casual use, though.


24 posted on 04/27/2009 8:08:18 AM PDT by Ford4000
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To: cornfedcowboy

“Do masks work at preventing flu? (Vanity)”

Yes they do.

They also help robbers and congress crooks.

If you want to get shot, just walk into a bank or store with a mask on.

Good luck.


25 posted on 04/27/2009 8:11:55 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Tammy8

I agree, wearing a mask can’t hurt.

I personally believe the mask is best worn by the infected, as their cough, sneezing and breathing will be moist and the mask should function reasonably well as a containment device. However, most people are not concerned about protecting others, they care more about themselves than they do about spreading a virus around.

For me, knowing that we are talking about a virus, and not a bacteria - I would chose to opt out of wearing the mask; as I believe the mask is a greater emcumberance than it is a protective device. If I were sick, and necessity dictated that I had to be in public (food, medical aide, medicine ect) I would wear the mask to help contain the viri from spreading - as I believe you would. However, in the latter case; I believe we are in a woefully small minority.


26 posted on 04/27/2009 8:23:15 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Tammy8

If everyone wore masks, it would give a factor of protection on both sides - to the uninfected, and by the infected. If you could cut it down by half each way, the transmission rate goes down by three quarters. Cut it by 90% each way, and the rate is 1% of what it used to be.


27 posted on 04/27/2009 8:23:54 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Hodar
.. but a filter that is 100x larger than the viri is practically useless, IMHO.

I don't think viri propel themselves across space. I think they need to be transported by liquid droplets, etc. Yet, I am not even a silly engineer so what do I know? :-)

28 posted on 04/27/2009 8:25:13 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: cornfedcowboy
Bought a 25 pack of these this morning.
Inexpensive and not N95 but I thought would be better than nothing
although the product reviews lead me to question even that.

See how things look in a few days and perhaps upgrade to higher quality...this or similar

29 posted on 04/27/2009 8:27:15 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: cornfedcowboy

I doubt it, but it does make a fashion statement that says ‘I’m hip and I scare easily. Please do not cough in my direction.’

A virus is smaller than the opening in a woven face mask. If it’s your time, nothing you can do will stop time.

However, if it’s not your time, you certainly don’t want to change the course of history and catch a deadly disease and screw up what could have been the rest of your life.

And I can write this after just two cups of coffee.


30 posted on 04/27/2009 8:31:23 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The Constitution & Bill of Rights stand as a whole. Remove any part & nullify the whole.)
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So, your mask traps the moisture droplet from someone’s cough. You breathe, and sooner or later, that droplet evaporates. Within seconds, or minutes or hours at some point during the day the droplet is gone - but the viri are still there.

Since the virus is ~100x smaller than the filter material is designed to restrict, you might as well be wearing a window screen (it is cheaper, when purchased in bulk). It won’t take too many breaths before you suck those liberated viri into your system, and return them to the nice, warm and fertile enviroment that they need.

Now, if you are sick, then the mask should (IMHO) be a fairly reasonable containment device. Your sneezing, coughing and wheezing should keep that mask damp, and that moisture should entrap a good number of those nasty bugs. But, if you are healthy ... I can not see where the potential benefit is worth the inconvenience of wearing the mask. I know I wouldn’t bother. But, that choice is yours - just be informed enough to know what the mask is and is not capable of doing. The mask is designed to prevent bacteria from passing through, and the viri are ~100x smaller than bacteria.


31 posted on 04/27/2009 8:43:40 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: cornfedcowboy

This nasty bug, often enters the eyes, so the mask is useless.


32 posted on 04/27/2009 8:46:37 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Avoid crowds, buy your, "Pedros Pig Farm, Juarez, Mexico", T-shirt)
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To: cornfedcowboy

What the hell do you think a mask is? A micropore filter?????????????????


33 posted on 04/27/2009 9:29:06 AM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: Hodar

Cool.


34 posted on 04/27/2009 9:33:01 AM PDT by bvw
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Found this gem from the good folk at 3M who make the masks in question.

Surgical masks do not have either adequate filtering or fitting attributes to provide respiratory protection for the wearer. They are designed to help prevent contamination of the work environment or sterile field from large particles generated by the wearer (e.g. spit, mucous). Surgical masks may also be used to help reduce the risk of splashes or sprays of blood, body fluids, secretions and excretions from reaching the wearer’s mouth and nose (Emphasis is mine)

3M - Respirators and Surgical Masks: A Comparison

35 posted on 04/27/2009 9:36:23 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

I knew that, you prob did 2.


36 posted on 04/27/2009 9:37:46 AM PDT by bvw
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To: kanawa; Mind-numbed Robot; Tammy8; Ford4000

See post 35. Hope you kept your receipt.


37 posted on 04/27/2009 9:38:36 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: cornfedcowboy

WHO today doubled the confirmed US cases to 40...and not a peep in the media.

Odd?


38 posted on 04/27/2009 9:41:51 AM PDT by Raebie (~Never go down with a loaded gun~)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
You said this: I'm not a medical professional - just a silly engineer. Still, any filter is better than nothing, but a filter that is 100x larger than the viri is practically useless, IMHO.

I said this: I don't think viri propel themselves across space. I think they need to be transported by liquid droplets, etc. Yet, I am not even a silly engineer so what do I know? :-)

I see no reason for you to lecture me as we seem to be saying the same thing. However, you also said this: Within seconds, or minutes or hours at some point during the day the droplet is gone - but the viri are still there.

Since the virus is ~100x smaller than the filter material is designed to restrict, you might as well be wearing a window screen (it is cheaper, when purchased in bulk). It won’t take too many breaths before you suck those liberated viri into your system, and return them to the nice, warm and fertile enviroment that they need.

It is my opinion that the viri do not live long outside the moisture, and this was just confirmed by a doctor on The Factor, but that is not the real point. The real point is that you and I are in agreement philosophically and we are just quibbling over the technical aspect of which neither of us is an expert, as we agree.

39 posted on 04/27/2009 5:45:23 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: cornfedcowboy

Some mask have high filter with NIOSH ratings of N95 to N100 for your respiratory protection. Medical grade mask are intended to help reduce wearer exposure to airborne particles in a size range of 0.1 to > 10.0 microns generated during these procedures. Fluid resistant to provide .99% BFE against microorganisms and help reduce potential contamination and exposure of the wearer to the spray, spatter, and aerosol of blood and body fluids.

hope it helps.
www.asasupplies.com


40 posted on 07/23/2009 7:36:37 PM PDT by fsb4e11
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