[Perdogg]

I thought it was interesting because I always wanted to know how it was done. It didn't seem to very complicated. I heard stories that in Vietnam the US soldiers would waterboard vietcong with their canteens and cellophane. I don't consider this to be torture.

[Cvengr]

A lot of people can hold their breath underwater for 15 seconds.

It’s the last 15 seconds without air that’s the most significant.

[Big_Monkey]

"I thought it was interesting because I always wanted to know how it was done.

Please don't misunderstand. I wasn't criticizing you for posting the thread, I just wish that these "journalist" would put waterboarding in some context or perspective.

We have been waterboarding close to 500 of our own troops and aviators annually for dozens of years during SERE training. To classify anything that can be done during a training evolution as torture is ridiculous on it's face. We also gas new recruits, is that torture? And sometimes, we run soldiers and marines in full-combat gear until many throw up, pass out or lose control of their bodily functions. I suppose the NYT's would also define this as torture.

[Gaffer]

The Chopper elevator was the most effective when there were ‘two’ detainees -—— first one gets an express elevator ride to the dirt (minus the benefit of elevator), the second knows he’s next.