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Queen's Trinity Cross medal scrapped... because it's 'too Christian'
dailymail.co.uk ^ | May 9, 2009 | Mail Foreign Service

Posted on 05/08/2009 5:14:37 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

A medal personally established by the Queen is being withdrawn after it was deemed offensive to Muslims and Hindus.

The honour - known as The Trinity Cross of the Order of Trinity - has been ruled unlawful and too Christian.

It has been awarded to 62 distinguished residents of the former colony of Trinidad and Tobago over more than 40 years, including cricketers Brian Lara and Garfield Sobers, novelist V.S. Naipaul and many diplomats and politicians.

But groups representing the Caribbean islands' Muslim and Hindu communities - which account for around a third of their 1.3million-strong population - had argued that the words 'Trinity' and 'Cross' were 'overtly Christian'. They also said the use of a cross insignia was offensive.

Five British law lords, all members of the Privy Council, have ruled that the honour breached the right to equality and the right to freedom of conscience and belief.

The Council is an obscure body made up of senior politicians, bishops and peers.

They advise the monarch on the exercise of the Royal Prerogative and act as a final court of appeal for many former colonies.

In the judgment, Lord Hope of Craighead said that the Trinity Cross was 'perceived by Hindus and Muslims living in Trinidad and Tobago as an overtly Christian symbol both in name and substance' and as such breached the islands' constitution of 1976.

It will be replaced with the Order of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago - a circular medal featuring a sun, stars, water and a map of the islands.

Caribbean storm: The old Trinity Cross (left) is replaced with the Order of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago, which has removed any Christian symbols

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TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: 2disgusting4words; dhimmitude; failbritannia; ungland

1 posted on 05/08/2009 5:14:37 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Farewell, Brittania.

I won’t be coming to your funeral, O once great lady.


2 posted on 05/08/2009 5:25:30 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Imperial Order of the Queen of Sheba, Grand Cross Star by B. A. Sevadjian of Addis Ababa


3 posted on 05/08/2009 5:26:41 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Haven’t the Hindus been British subjects for a very long time? Something tells me it’s not the Hindus who are objecting or they would have done it before now.


4 posted on 05/08/2009 5:33:05 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (What fresh hell is this?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Would you like to see, Brittania rule again? My friends? All you have to do is follow, the worms...” < / floyd >


5 posted on 05/08/2009 5:34:26 PM PDT by j_tull (I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It is amazing how quickly the British are flushing 2000 years of magnificent history and civilisation.

This due simply to abject cowardice before hateful, dead-end barbarians with comparatively zero accomplishments in their own “culture”.


6 posted on 05/08/2009 5:48:43 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: All

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.”

(Winston Churchill / 1874-1865)

“Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”

(Winston Churchill / 1874-1865)


7 posted on 05/08/2009 6:01:29 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth to a Liberal, is like a crucifix to a vampire))))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hey wait!! I’m offended, aren’t sun, stars and water pagan symbols...?


8 posted on 05/08/2009 6:02:05 PM PDT by Proverbs 3-5
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Well, this could cause a bit of problem with Britain’s Honours System. Just to name a few:

Order of the Garter (highest honour): Star has Cross of St George, badge is St. George and the Dragon

Order of St. Michael and St. George (diplomatic order): Cross of St. George on Star

Order of the Bath: induction ceremony is that of the consecration of a Christian Knight.

Order of St. John of Jerusalem (Medical Order) Cross of St. John

Victoria Cross (highest valour award): Cross Patee

Conspicuous Gallantry Cross (second highest valour award and created only about 20 years ago): Cross

Distinguished Service Order (military order): Cross

Military Cross: Cross

Distinguished Flying Cross: Cross

Don’t you just hate it when these Christian countries go around willy nilly using Christian symbols.


9 posted on 05/08/2009 6:18:36 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The sun has set on the British empire, and the cresent is rising.

Wake up Britain.


10 posted on 05/08/2009 6:22:55 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
It will be replaced with the Order of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago

That won't do, either. Trinidad is simply Spanish for "trinity." Gotta stamp out all Christian references.

11 posted on 05/08/2009 6:47:07 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That’s what happens when your politically correct leaders and your Muslim/Islamic Prince Charles rule.


12 posted on 05/08/2009 7:24:06 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I guess they need to get rid of this thing now.


13 posted on 05/08/2009 7:32:33 PM PDT by NYFreeper
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To: elcid1970

There’ll always be an England...just not one we recognize.


14 posted on 05/08/2009 8:15:54 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This actually has nothing to do with the Queen and British law.

Trinidad and Tobago became a republic in 1977, replacing the Queen of Trinidad and Tobago (Queen Elizabeth II) and her viceroy, the Governor-General, with a ceremonial President elected by an Electoral College.

However, due to a quirk of law, The Republic of Trinidad and Tobago kept the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council of the United Kingdom as it’s highest court of appeal. In making this ruling the Privy Council would have relied on the Constitution of Trinidad and Tobago, not British law.

This ruling does not effect the United Kingdom in any way shape or form.


15 posted on 05/08/2009 9:54:43 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Bet there is no such thing as being "too Islamic" or "too atheist" though, is there?
16 posted on 05/09/2009 10:37:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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