Posted on 05/09/2009 4:53:47 PM PDT by JoeProBono
Think of of as stimulus which will actually produce something new rather than maintaining what no longer works.
You sound like a lib when you talk like that.. Cutting NASA is not going to solve anything period.. What we need to focus on is the real waste in Government.. SOCIAL PROGRAMS... The Coming Communist Health Care Program and so on... We had problems in the 60’s when NASA start and we will continue to have problems..
Exactly...
On the contrary, it you that doesn’t understand enumerated powers and the limits of government. Our nation has far more important fish to fry than dumping precious resources down the tube of SF and dreams.
It was dreams that made our country great you idiot...
Ultimately, space is a defense issue. The ability to deliver nuclear weapons with missiles and to shoot those missiles down is a space issue. Spy satellites are s space issue. That the government was (before Obama put an end it it) building missile interceptors and building 747s with lasers to shoot down missiles got it’s origins in science fiction and dreams.
If we were to strictly follow the letter and intent of the Constitution as written (and I honestly have the greatest respect for the document and what the Founders wanted to achieve with it), we shouldn’t have a standing army, either (Congress routinely reauthorizes the spending every two years as Constitutionally required but it’s become a formality, not a deterrence to having a standing army as originally intended). Yes, I agree it’s a problem that people routinely violate the spirit and letter of the Constitution and I would very much prefer that they amend the Constitution than ignore it, I think it’s wrong to believe that all of those liberties routinely taken with the Constitution are worthless or harmful and should be eliminated.
**If we were to strictly follow the letter and intent of the Constitution as written ...**
And ... as bad as it may be... Somebody gave us the Federal Reserve ... with STRICT adherance, that would make CONGRESS in charge of the MONEY SUPPLY ...
YOU WANT CHARLES WRANGEL Madame Pelosilini or CHUCKY SCHUMER setting Monetary Policy????
I found stories like Doomsday Machine, the giant amoeba one and any with a good battle scene that does not require me to get all self absorbed and worrying about how I might be some sort of racist or imperialistic b@$tard or some such crap....
It must have a good story and there must be human interaction to a point...but the PC formula of a Next Generation and DS9 (or god forbid...that awful-save-for-7-of-9, Voyager) make me want to vomit...which is why The Original Series and Enterprise were my favorite series (more the later which predated the insipid prime directive).
Having said that I walked out of this movie after 30 minutes.
I did not like the storyline much, I did not like the way characters were portrayed and was just plain bored by all of it.
Not sure what I was expecting but that wasn't it and I paid to see it at an IMAX theater.
Well I guess I am one of few or one that walked out on this picture. I saw the Wolverine picture last weekend and really liked it and it got a lot less good reviews than the Star Trek picture, go figure.
Anyway anyone else out there who found the new Trek picture lacking in any way?????????
The Doomsday Machine had a political angle (that the machines of war created by a far off civilization were so terrible that they not only destroyed their civilization but kept going after they were long dead). But in general, the original series wasn’t trying to call the audience racists or imperialists and, despite a lot of lip service toward the Prime Directive, it wasn’t culturally and morally relativistic, either.
/geek
Actually, the Doomsday Machine was created specifically to defeat the Borg - If you take Peter David books as cannon.
/geek off
Rod Serling also fell squarely into this category.
Interestingly enough, just this morning there was a History Channel show on, called "How William Shatner Changed the World." One of the people the show mentioned was Martin Cooper, generally acknowledged as the engineer who invented the hand held cell phone for Motorola in the early 1970s, and he stated flat out that it was Star Trek that influenced him with the original idea, as well as that of voice recognition.
Know where the original PC, the Altair got it's name? From a star system in Star Trek. Before that, computers were corporate devices, often requiring a support staff and dedicated AC units.
The ideas from the sick-bay and imaging (like MRI and Cat-Scans) might well have eventually been developed without Star Trek, but in many cases these ideas were certainly pursued far earlier than they would have been otherwise. When I was in college at SUNY @ Stony Brook, I heard stories about how the people involved in the invention and development of the MRI were devoted Science Fiction fans, and in fact, Stony Brook hosts a major Sci Fi convention on campus every year. The last year I was there, Marc Leonard was the guest of honor.
It also influenced quite a number of people to get into the sciences and career directions that they may never have gone into. For instance, the chief engineer for JPL states that it was seeing an early Mercury launch, followed up by watching Star Trek that led him into physics and engineering. Dr. Mae Jemison said that it was the character Uhuru that made her believe that a woman could actually be someone important in the crew, and the fact that she was black as well was an inspiration to her.
Interestingly enough, the original show would get all sorts of mail from scientific and medical professionals asking how they did certain things, or where they came up with the ideas: Nearly every time, the idea came from simple production requirements, or lack of funding or time. For example, DC Fontana said that the transporter came about because the model builders were behind schedule and didn't have the shuttle craft ready for the first 6 or 7 shows. So they needed an alternate way to get the crew members onto a planet! So the "transporter" was "invented."
Mark
If the show was being watched on Vulcan, I'm sure this would be the case.
Mark
"She was right, but at the wrong time."
who'da thunk that Joan Collins would be a focal point in time?
Hey Son,
That’s a Vogon Constructor Fleet you just fired on heading for your home planet to seek out Trekkies and lobotomize them (more) with bad poetry.
It was the dreams of people implemented by their individual genius that made/makes us great - not government programs. You need some remedial study on our history - and our Constitution.
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