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The Two Sides of ‘Star Trek’
nytimes ^ | May 9, 2009 | DAVE ITZKOFF

Posted on 05/09/2009 4:53:47 PM PDT by JoeProBono

It takes a certain mix of optimism and frustration to contemplate the possibility of space travel. To dream of navigating the cosmos is to assume that man has the resources and the know-how to propel himself into the heavens, but also some compelling reasons to exchange his home planet for the cold vast unknown. It was these seemingly contradictory impulses that shaped “Star Trek,” the supremely influential science-fiction television series whose three-season run yielded 40 years of sequels and spinoffs including a new feature film about the origins of Kirk and Spock that opened on Friday. Yes, the series is at heart a geeky space epic, but it is also one with a political and historical context.

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KEYWORDS: autism; scifi; startrek
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DIVIDED Frank Gorshin in the episode “Let That Be Your Last Battlefield.”


1 posted on 05/09/2009 4:53:47 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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2 posted on 05/09/2009 4:56:52 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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Uh, he really, really needs some Visine or sumptin’
I’m just sayin’


3 posted on 05/09/2009 4:59:45 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (It's only recoil)
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Star Trek anti-racist?

I disagree. It has a blatant pro-Human bias.


4 posted on 05/09/2009 4:59:51 PM PDT by Shermy ("The whole world has financed the United States, ...they have a reciprocal debt with the planet.")
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To: JoeProBono

Good lord. It is a movie, a really good movie.
These leftist are an unhappy bunch. Sorry as a baby boomer I will not apologize......


5 posted on 05/09/2009 5:02:18 PM PDT by svcw (There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who know binary and those who don't.)
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To: JoeProBono

Lokai was obviously less a character than Bele, why just look at them!

6 posted on 05/09/2009 5:03:12 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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Why do these idiots have to pretend to be pseudo-intellectuals and analyze science fiction?

Maybe they should have started with the classic "Killer Clowns From Outer Space".........

7 posted on 05/09/2009 5:03:49 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This country isn't going to hell in a handbasket, it's riding shotgun in an Indy car....)
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“...,” the supremely influential science-fiction television series...”

You are kidding me.

It’s entertainment. It’s really bad entertainment most of the time.


8 posted on 05/09/2009 5:06:57 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Those embryos are little humans in progress. Using them for profit is slavery.)
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Here’s the deal about space travel . . .

Investing in space travel is valid if:

1. You believe that life exists elsewhere in the universe.
2. We have the technology to mine and untilize resources from planets and asteroids.
3. Cost to benefits is direct and promises immediate pay-back.

It is not valid if:

1. Evidence of extraterrestrial life is less than conclusive. When UFO-ology graduates from the level of ghost hunts and parapsychology, we’ll talk.
2. We ain’t nowhere near able to extract resources from ANWR, let alone the moon, Mars or some other planet.
3. We’re bankrupt.

Discussion over.


9 posted on 05/09/2009 5:13:53 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Actually, it all started back in Mayberry. Helen Crump was a traveler and Floyd, well, you know...)
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10 posted on 05/09/2009 5:14:18 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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yeah, but then again, if it had really been so influential, when it showed handdeld communicators, earily similar to cell phones, why didn’t it show gangstas and teens texting so fast their thumbs are about to fly off?

And when we saw Phasors, why didn’t we hear pleas of, “Don’t Phaze me , Bro!”....?

IMHO, too many cultural icons of the 70s were embedded in the scripts for it to have been ageless, but the series was good and a good iconoclast of that period.


11 posted on 05/09/2009 5:14:29 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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Star Trek anti-racist?

I disagree. It has a blatant pro-Human bias.

Since the Vulcans were in space long before humans left earth in the Star Trek universe, why aren't any creature with two arms, two legs, one head with two eyes pointing forward and ears of any shape on the side of the head called Vulcanoids rather than humanoids?

12 posted on 05/09/2009 5:15:13 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (No free man bows to a foreign king.)
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That is just so wrong - so I stole it.
13 posted on 05/09/2009 5:18:20 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (No free man bows to a foreign king.)
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To: JoeProBono

Nice touch - Sloan Royal Flush units.


14 posted on 05/09/2009 5:21:45 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Actually, it all started back in Mayberry. Helen Crump was a traveler and Floyd, well, you know...)
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15 posted on 05/09/2009 5:27:56 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: KarlInOhio

How do you know they aren’t? Do you speak vulcan?


16 posted on 05/09/2009 5:32:24 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Except for:

1. A very good axiom is, “Don’t put all your eggs in one basket.”

2. The Earth is a single basket.


17 posted on 05/09/2009 5:44:46 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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While I know that everyone these reporters know probably views Obama with optimism, the guy scares the bejeebies out of me and makes me think more of post-holocaust science fiction from the Cold War than Star Trek’s optimism, which actually has more in common with the “science is good” optimism of the 1950s than the hippies of the 1960s. Remember, when Star Trek did hippies in the 1960s, while it admired their optimism, their leader wound up dead from utopian foolishness after engaging in ends justify means fanaticism and in every episode where children wound up in charge (e.g., Charlie X, Miri, And the Children Shall Lead), the results were horrific and the children needed adults to control and lead them. Gene Roddenberry may have been a liberal in his day but he served in WW2 and the liberalism of the mid-1960s was far to the right of the Baby Boomer liberalism today.


18 posted on 05/09/2009 5:44:50 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Sherman Logan

Well go shopping in about 10,000 years then.


19 posted on 05/09/2009 5:54:55 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Actually, it all started back in Mayberry. Helen Crump was a traveler and Floyd, well, you know...)
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Liberalism (Progressivism) in the mid 1960’s still had national pride and patriotism within it. The Leftist movement that hijacked progressivism during the Vietnam war destroyed these ideals.


20 posted on 05/09/2009 6:32:49 PM PDT by Thunder90
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