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Ranchers fight to keep grazing in Grant County (OR)
The Oregonian ^
| May 9, 2009
| Richard Cockle
Posted on 05/10/2009 11:10:52 AM PDT by jazusamo
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Richard Cockle/The OregonianKen Holliday is among Grant County ranchers who have banded together to fight for grazing rights on public land. Environmentalists are seeking to ban grazing on six Malheur National Forest sites, saying cattle trample stream banks and damage steelhead habitat. Holliday says a ban would force ranches out of business and cause other problems. "There's a lot of increased fire danger when nobody's grazing cows," he says
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posted on
05/10/2009 11:10:52 AM PDT
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jazusamo
To: george76; girlangler; Flycatcher; Salvation
Enviros won’t be happy until every steer is off BLM and Forest Service land and raised in feed lots.
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posted on
05/10/2009 11:12:55 AM PDT
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jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo
Good folks in Grant County. VERY conservative. I almost moved there.
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05/10/2009 11:16:06 AM PDT
by
AuntB
(The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
To: jazusamo
These enviro nazis have overstepped their bounds, no one elected them to anything, they are strickly self-appointed terrorists. I feel terribly sorry for the ranchers and farmers who are losing the war against these useless people. However, electing the moronic Senator there says much about the PC thinking that has infected many Oregonians. Sad.
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posted on
05/10/2009 11:21:37 AM PDT
by
Rockiette
(Democrats are not intelligent)
To: AuntB
I have relatives in Harney County and it’s the same, the folks there good people also. When areas are as sparsely populated as those counties people look out for one another.
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posted on
05/10/2009 11:23:38 AM PDT
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jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
To: Rockiette
There’s not a lot of money in ranching contrary to what many believe. Ranchers are very hard pressed to keep up with the constant attacks from the enviro nutjobs who play to the emotions of the do-gooder city people to raise millions.
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posted on
05/10/2009 11:26:48 AM PDT
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jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo
Environmentalists "are beating ranchers over the head and trying to put us out of business," he says. "I don't understand it."What's not to understand? Environmentalists are absolutely clueless about private property rights and that private landholders can actually be GREAT stewards of the land. Private landholders & ranchers have to be. They make their livelihood from it.
Thanks for the ping, Jaz.
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posted on
05/10/2009 11:30:33 AM PDT
by
Flycatcher
(God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
To: jazusamo
One of the great things about private ownership is that the owners tend to care about their property.
Grazing on public land does not have this selfish incentive, in fact, it seems somewhat socialist.
Logging on public land has the same drawbacks.
To: Flycatcher
Well said, Fly. And without being able to graze cattle on lease land it will run the smaller private ranchers out of business. They can’t buy enough land to make a go of it and most of the lease land is not used by the public anyway.
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05/10/2009 11:38:28 AM PDT
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jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
To: Flycatcher
“private property rights”
Is this about private land or public land?
To: Born to Conserve
Ranchers act as stewards of the land on leases in Eastern OR, I know that for a fact.
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posted on
05/10/2009 11:41:04 AM PDT
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jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo
“Ranchers act as stewards of the land on leases”
Stewards or not, it is not their land, and they have no long term incentive to protect it.
To: jazusamo
Ranchers were there before the Enviro trash were and it is not their land it is ours and I have no problem with the grazing.
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posted on
05/10/2009 11:45:11 AM PDT
by
Cheetahcat
(Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
To: Born to Conserve
The incentive they have is knowing they’ll be out of business without it. Many of the ranches I’m familiar with have been in operation over half a century and longer and have used those leases.
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posted on
05/10/2009 11:47:22 AM PDT
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jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo
Lets differentiate between public and private land
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posted on
05/10/2009 11:59:08 AM PDT
by
BooBoo1000
(Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
To: BooBoo1000
I believe it has been differentiated here. Lease land is public land and ranches I’m familiar with have their private land but also lease public lands for grazing.
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05/10/2009 12:04:28 PM PDT
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jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
To: Born to Conserve
Stewards or not, it is not their land, and they have no long term incentive to protect it.
Grazing on lands in the West is essential in keeping wildfires down as they keep the grasses shorter which curtails spreading of fires, something that was previously taken care of by other animals (elk, buffalo).
It is in the public interest for the ranchers to use that land for grazing. It also keeps the price of meat down, just as logging on public lands reduces the cost of housing.
To: jazusamo
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posted on
05/10/2009 12:15:23 PM PDT
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: Born to Conserve; GladesGuru; editor-surveyor; familyop
Just more BS from the eco-wackos trying to kill the entire state economy so they can use it as their back yard
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05/10/2009 12:19:41 PM PDT
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: george76
Thanks for linking that, George. It’s good to see people coming together to fight the enviros and USFS over these issues.
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05/10/2009 12:20:13 PM PDT
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jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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