Posted on 05/10/2009 11:10:52 AM PDT by jazusamo
The hippies are upset that their dope growing operations may get exposed.
You’ld think the USFS would beg ranchers to graze cattle in the forests, the cows surely would eat the MaryJane and it would save enforcement costs. :-)
“I have relatives in Harney County and its the same, the folks there good people also. When areas are as sparsely populated as those counties people look out for one another.”
Or at least stay out of each other’s way, eh? Seriously, human beings weren’t meant to live stacked up in the city.
We should at least have the choice...if the enviro’s get their way we’ll all be festering in cities.
“When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe”
Thomas Jefferson
I sent all these articles on to my son because what happens to these leases also happens to ORV use on historic trails on these lands...
Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Oregon Ping List.
Yes. The “stream bank damage” argument is downright childish. Another example of the childishness of suburban trout fishermen’s associations would be an addition to Colorado regulations, where out-of-state trout fishermen managed to outlaw live bait for kids there. ...shame. Let them stock their eastern suburban backyards with trout, IMO.
The word, overgrazed, is linguistic activism used by environmentalists—a word that can be beaten by proper rudimentary education in agriculture. Pastures need fertilization and seeding, even in drier areas. Soil needs healthy roots to hold it in place and to retain water. Richer pastures do not noticeably deprive aquifers of water.
As for trout, they need rocky streams, and herds of cattle only drink and ford in very small parts of those streams. Trout have coexisted with vast numbers of buffalo, elk, deer and antelope on the ranges. They can coexist with relatively small herds of cattle.
Me...I’ll shoot various ruminants and others, consume some of ‘em, tag ‘em and make coats and rugs out of ‘em. That should make the slick city entertainers of trout happy, but it probably won’t. ;-)
I was visiting a ranch a few years ago in Oregon. The rancher ran a bunch of cattle up on BLM land. He said that many years ago their was a section of stream that the BLM folks came into and fenced off so the cattle couldn’t get near it. Then they cleaned it up of all the dead trees and stuff around the creek.
Many years latter they came back in, took down the fences, and hauled in old logs and stumps to dump in the creek! Turns out the trout like the shelter of the “junk” in the stream. (I’ve know that since I was a little kid - 40+ years ago!!??). And it seems that the cows tromping through parts of the creek stir up the bugs and critters hiding under the rocks which distributes them better along the creek, and keeps too much muck from settling in the creek.
Agreed. Sometimes, it appears from environmentalists’ arguments, that they are against life itself in the West.
Time to fight back on these EnviroNazis. The cattle are not hurting the streams. Fish counts go up and down in cycles due to ocean conditions. This is just them trying to destroy another business.
Pray for America
Well, I DID buy property in Grant County, Oregon, just this month.
And, I can say for sure that these Environmentalists are REALLY Anarchists.
So, they are Enviro-Anarchists
All for the very same cause-—> Obama Socialism/Neo-Marxism
Cloward-Piven Strategy & Saul Alinsky’s ‘Rules for Radicals’
Yes, since I bought property in Grant County, Oregon just this past week I became very curious as to these ‘Environmentalists’.
What I have found out is they are part of an elaborate Enviro-Anarchist Network.
In other words they are simply ANARCHISTS.
After the very same cause—> Obama Socialism/Neo-Marxism
They are tied to an Organization that has Embedded itself in EVERY SINGLE COUNTY IN OREGON & is Now actively working on Idaho Counties.
The ‘RURAL ORGANIZING PROJECT’ that promotes:
The defence and promotion of IMMIGRANTS RIGHTS, legal or not.
They also promote the Rights & Inclusion of ALL GENDER IDENTIES and Sexuality.
This Organization is HUGE and gaining and getting larger by the day because of donations and grants from the Government.
They want EVERYONE to promote LGBT in Every County in the Nation, and that’s what they are busy working on.
Here’s some links to this ‘Rural Organizing Project’
http://www.resistinc.org/grants/past_current_grantees.html
http://www.equalityfoundation.org/archive.htm
http://www.socialjusticefund.org/files/Social_Justice_Fund_Annual_Report_2005.pdf
http://www.netcorps.org/whatwedo/initiatives/projectconnect/grantees
http://www.rop.org/legislative-call-for-action-keep-guard-in-or
Public Defense Services ORA=Oregon Rural Action
Rural Development and Diversity thru Culture
the ‘RURAL ORGANIZING PROJECT’
These Anti-Cow Anti-Ranchers are just one in the same as all the Illegal Immigration Pro-Gay & Pro-LGBT Organizations all across the Nation.
They want to drive OUT the ranchers so they can Buy-Up all that Land and Develop it for Minorities and LGBT’s to have a Big-Happy Non-White U.S. Plain and simple that’s what they are after.
Public Land, this is why the Enviro-Anarchists are going after it.
Wish you two fellows could help out in this controversy.
I see the Ranchers really taking a beating because the ENVIRO thing is soooo popular now. And, these Enviro-Anarchists have ALOT of FUNDING/MONEY to play with.
They constantly get Donations from people that don’t have a CLUE as to how ranching and open country like that of Grant County works.
I’ve bought property in Grant County now and intend to move up there within a year or so.
I am not fond of ANY Enviro-Waco’s because they are ALL-The-Same-—> Anarchists..
Here’s a website with a guy that devoted all kinds of time to reaching a Median between the Ranchers & EnviroWacko’s(Anarchists), of course the Enviro’s REJECTED this guy that was trying to get them to understand ‘Holistic Grazing Planning Management’
http://www.arashi.com/pipermail/sdpg/2004q4/000850.html
Oh they’re not against Illegal Immigrant life or LGBT life.
Just Christian Working Class good people life.
These are one-in-the-same as ‘RURAL ORGANIZING PROJECT’
that has embedded and festered within EVERY SINGLE Rural
Community in Oregon now.
These people don’t realize what RURAL ORGANIZING PROJECT promotes at all.
They NEED TO KNOW what they do.
They get Government Grants and Donations to protect Gays, Lesbians, Transvestites and Bi-Sexuals, as well as Legal OR Illegal Immigrants.
http://www.socialjusticefund.org/files/Social_Justice_Fund_Annual_Report_2005.pdf
http://www.equalityfoundation.org/archive.htm
http://www.rop.org/legislation-call-for-action-keep-guard-in-or
http://www.netcorps.org/whatwedo/initiatives/projectconnect/grantees
http://www.resistinc.org/grants/past_current_grantees.html
http://www.resistinc.org/newsletters/issue/2008/baldwin.html
These Enviro’s are nothing more than part of Green Anarchy.
You can say that they have “overstepped” allright!
Read this where they already “overstepped”.
http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?story=20060227122933844
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/02/333236.shtml
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