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The Reality of Reincarnation
livescience ^ | Benjamin Radford,

Posted on 05/11/2009 2:17:49 PM PDT by JoeProBono

Is each of us inhabited by a soul that has lived previous lives earlier in history? It's a fascinating idea, and one that many people believe, including actress Shirley MacLaine and the Dalai Lama (himself the fourteenth incarnation of a Buddhist Master). As one might imagine, scientifically proving that a person lived before being born is no easy task. Good evidence might come in the form of unique details and information about their past lives that no one else knows. Even better would be information that solves disappearances: For example, if a person claims to have been Amelia Earhart or Jimmy Hoffa (or, years from now, Natalee Holloway) in a previous life, they could presumably clear up the mysteries surrounding their fates. Though millions of people believe in reincarnation, very few actually claim to have memories of past lives. Usually such recollections emerge during a controversial (and largely discredited) psychotherapy technique called "past life regression." In fact, that's how the "best case" for reincarnation came about. Bridey Murphy The most celebrated case of a person claiming to have lived a past life is that of Bridey Murphy.

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1 posted on 05/11/2009 2:17:50 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

I of course was Howard Hughes. No wait, I was alive before he died. Darn.


2 posted on 05/11/2009 2:20:07 PM PDT by Nachum (the complete list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: JoeProBono

Shown to be a hoax ... my friends tell me how solid I am in relationships with others so maybe in my next life I’ll come back as a brick .....


3 posted on 05/11/2009 2:20:07 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: JoeProBono

I don’t believe in reincarnation, but I understand that we are discovering a type of ‘genetic memory’.. we can observe this well in the animal kingdom, so it seems that we should have this in the human animal as well.


5 posted on 05/11/2009 2:22:34 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: JoeProBono
I think General Patton believed in reincarnation.
6 posted on 05/11/2009 2:24:03 PM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (Obama is a fraud and is ineligible for the Presidency!)
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7 posted on 05/11/2009 2:28:19 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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8 posted on 05/11/2009 2:30:15 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Hebrews 9:27 And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment,


9 posted on 05/11/2009 2:31:24 PM PDT by Esther Ruth ( Jesus IS Lord)
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To: JackRyanCIA

Gunga galunga... gunga, gunga-galunga.


11 posted on 05/11/2009 2:32:28 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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13 posted on 05/11/2009 2:35:48 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JackRyanCIA

Gunga Din a poem by Rudyard Kipling

You may talk o’ gin and beer
When you’re quartered safe out ‘ere,
An’ you’re sent to penny-fights an’ Aldershot it;
But when it comes to slaughter
You will do your work on water,
An’ you’ll lick the bloomin’ boots of ‘im that’s got it.
Now in Injia’s sunny clime,
Where I used to spend my time
A-servin’ of ‘Er Majesty the Queen,
Of all them blackfaced crew
The finest man I knew
Was our regimental bhisti, Gunga Din.
He was “Din! Din! Din!
You limpin’ lump o’ brick-dust, Gunga Din!
Hi! slippery hitherao!
Water, get it! Panee lao!
You squidgy-nosed old idol, Gunga Din.”

The uniform ‘e wore
Was nothin’ much before,
An’ rather less than ‘arf o’ that be’ind,
For a piece o’ twisty rag
An’ a goatskin water-bag
Was all the field-equipment ‘e could find.
When the sweatin’ troop-train lay
In a sidin’ through the day,
Where the ‘eat would make your bloomin’ eyebrows crawl,
We shouted “Harry By!”
Till our throats were bricky-dry,
Then we wopped ‘im ‘cause ‘e couldn’t serve us all.
It was “Din! Din! Din!
You ‘eathen, where the mischief ‘ave you been?
You put some juldee in it
Or I’ll marrow you this minute
If you don’t fill up my helmet, Gunga Din!”

‘E would dot an’ carry one
Till the longest day was done;
An’ ‘e didn’t seem to know the use o’ fear.
If we charged or broke or cut,
You could bet your bloomin’ nut,
‘E’d be waitin’ fifty paces right flank rear.
With ‘is mussick on ‘is back,
‘E would skip with our attack,
An’ watch us till the bugles made “Retire”,
An’ for all ‘is dirty ‘ide
‘E was white, clear white, inside
When ‘e went to tend the wounded under fire!
It was “Din! Din! Din!”
With the bullets kickin’ dust-spots on the green.
When the cartridges ran out,
You could hear the front-files shout,
“Hi! ammunition-mules an’ Gunga Din!”

I shan’t forgit the night
When I dropped be’ind the fight
With a bullet where my belt-plate should ‘a’ been.
I was chokin’ mad with thirst,
An’ the man that spied me first
Was our good old grinnin’, gruntin’ Gunga Din.
‘E lifted up my ‘ead,
An’ he plugged me where I bled,
An’ ‘e guv me ‘arf-a-pint o’ water-green:
It was crawlin’ and it stunk,
But of all the drinks I’ve drunk,
I’m gratefullest to one from Gunga Din.
It was “Din! Din! Din!
‘Ere’s a beggar with a bullet through ‘is spleen;
‘E’s chawin’ up the ground,
An’ ‘e’s kickin’ all around:
For Gawd’s sake git the water, Gunga Din!”

‘E carried me away
To where a dooli lay,
An’ a bullet come an’ drilled the beggar clean.
‘E put me safe inside,
An’ just before ‘e died,
“I ‘ope you liked your drink”, sez Gunga Din.
So I’ll meet ‘im later on
At the place where ‘e is gone —
Where it’s always double drill and no canteen;
‘E’ll be squattin’ on the coals
Givin’ drink to poor damned souls,
An’ I’ll get a swig in hell from Gunga Din!
Yes, Din! Din! Din!
You Lazarushian-leather Gunga Din!
Though I’ve belted you and flayed you,
By the livin’ Gawd that made you,
You’re a better man than I am, Gunga Din!


14 posted on 05/11/2009 2:38:22 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: dfwgator

Everyone worries about where they are gonna go when they die. They never worry about where they were before they were born.

Behold the clear light of the void.
Not the void of nothingness
but thine own intellect
blissful and shining.


15 posted on 05/11/2009 2:42:04 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: JoeProBono

In a previous life I believed in reincarnation. In this life I learned it is a bunch of baloney.


17 posted on 05/11/2009 2:46:38 PM PDT by RobRoy (I'm wearing a cast on one hand. My spelling and clarity may not be up to par right now.)
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To: JackRyanCIA
LOL. While reading the poem it occurred to me how offensive to modern sensibilities the lines ....

“An’ for all ‘is dirty ‘ide
‘E was white, clear white, inside”

are. As in the less oft heard expression “That is awful white of you”.

Kipling has quite rightly been called “the poet laureate of Imperialism”.

Yet he did not have hate or animosity towards non whites, he just accepted the bogus findings of the “science” of his day that anybody who didn't have white skin was somehow in possession of less than fully human capabilities, faculties and reason.

18 posted on 05/11/2009 2:49:19 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: JoeProBono; Esther Ruth
 
   The Bhagavad-Gita.
 
 
Chapter XIII
 
 
ARJUNA:


NOW would I hear, O gracious Kesava!

 
Of Life which seems, and Soul beyond, which sees,  
And what it is we know—or seem to know?  
 

KRISHNA:

 

 
Is Kshetra, is the field where Life disports;         5
And that which views and knows it is the Soul,  
Kshetrajna. In all “fields,” thou Indian prince!  
I am Kshetrajna. I am what surveys!  
Only that knowledge knows which knows the known  
By the knower! What it is, that “field” of life,         10
What qualities it hath, and whence it is,  
And why it changeth, and the faculty  
That wotteth it, the mightiness of this,  
And how it wotteth—hear these things from Me!  
 
  The elements, the conscious life, the mind,         15
The unseen vital force, the nine great gates  
Of the body, or the five domains of sense,  
Desire, dislike, pleasure and pain, and thought  
Deep-woven, and persistency of being;  
These all are wrought on matter by the Soul!         20
 
  Humbleness, truthfulness, and harmlessness,  
Patience and honor, reverence for the wise,  
Purity, constancy, control of self,  
Contempt of sense-delights, self-sacrifice,  
Perception of the certitude of ill         25
In birth, death, aye, disease, suffering, and sin;  
Detachment, lightly holding unto home,  
Children, and wife, and all that bindeth men;  
An ever-tranquil heart in fortunes good  
And fortunes evil, with a will set firm         30
To worship Me—Me only! ceasing not;  
Loving all solitudes, and shunning noise  
Of foolish crowds; endeavors resolute  
To reach perception of the Utmost Soul,  
And grace to understand what gain it were         35
So to attain,—this is true Wisdom, Prince!  
And what is otherwise is ignorance!  
 
  Now will I speak of knowledge best to know—  
That Truth which giveth man Amrit to drink,  
The Truth of HIM, the Para-Brahm, the All,         40
The Uncreated; not Asat, not Sat,  
Not Form, nor the Unformed; yet both, and more;—  
Whose hands are everywhere, and everywhere  
Planted His feet, and everywhere, His eyes  
Beholding, and His ears in every place         45
Hearing, and all His faces everywhere  
Enlightening and encompassing His worlds.  
Glorified by the senses He hath given,  
Yet beyond sense He is; sustaining all,  
He dwelleth unattached: of forms and modes         50
Master, yet neither form nor mode hath He;  
He is within all beings—and without—  
Motionless, yet still moving; not discerned  
For subtlety of instant presence; close  
To all, to each, yet measurelessly far!         55
Not manifold, and yet subsisting still  
In all which lives; for ever to be known  
As the Sustainer, yet, at the End of Times,  
He maketh all to end—and re-creates.  
The Light of Lights He is, in the heart of the Dark         60
Shining eternally. Wisdom He is  
And Wisdom’s way, and Guide of all the wise,  
Planted in every heart.  
        So have I told  
Of Life’s stuff, and the moulding, and the lore         65
To comprehend. Whoso, adoring Me,  
Perceiveth this, shall surely come to Me!  
 
  Know thou that Nature and the Spirit both  
Have no beginning! Know that qualities  
And changes of them are by Nature wrought;         70
That Nature puts to work the acting frame,  
But Spirit doth inform it, and so cause  
Feeling of pain and pleasure. Spirit, linked  
To moulded matter, entereth into bond  
With qualities by Nature framed, and, thus         75
Married to matter, breeds the birth again  
In good or evil yonis.  
        Yet is this—  
Yea! in its bodily prison!—Spirit pure,  
Spirit supreme; surveying, governing,         80
Guarding, possessing; Lord and Master still  
PURUSHA, Ultimate, One Soul with Me.  
 
  Whoso thus knows himself, and knows his soul  
PURUSHA, working through the qualities  
With Nature’s modes, the light hath come for him!         85
Whatever flesh he bears, never again  
Shall he take on its load. Some few there be  
By meditation find the Soul in Self  
Self-schooled; and some by long philosophy  
And holy life reach thither; some by works.         90
Some, never so attaining, hear of light  
From other lips, and seize, and cleave to it  
Worshipping; yea! and those—to teaching true—  
Overpass Death!  
        Wherever, Indian Prince!         95
Life is—of moving things, or things unmoved,  
Plant or still seed—know, what is there hath grown  
By bond of Matter and of Spirit: Know  
He sees indeed who sees in all alike  
The living, lordly Soul; the Soul Supreme,         100
Imperishable amid the Perishing:  
For, whoso thus beholds, in every place,  
In every form, the same, one, Living Lord,  
Doth no more wrongfulness unto himself,  
But goes the highest road which brings to bliss.         105
Seeing, he sees, indeed, who sees that works  
Are Nature’s wont, for Soul to use, not love,  
Acting, yet not the actor; sees the mass  
Of separate living things—each of its kind—  
Issue from One, and blend again to One:         110
Then hath he BRAHMA, he attains!  
        O Prince!  
That Ultimate, High Spirit, Uncreate,  
Unqualified, even when it entereth flesh  
Taketh no stain of acts, worketh in nought!         115
Like to th’ ethereal air, pervading all,  
Which, for sheer subtlety, avoideth taint,  
The subtle Soul sits everywhere, unstained:  
Like to the light of the all-piercing sun  
Which is not changed by aught it shines upon,         120
The Soul’s light shineth pure in every place;  
And they who, by such eye of wisdom see  
How matter, and what deals with it, divide;  
And how the Spirit and the flesh have strife,  
These wise ones go the way which leads to Life!         125
 
Here ends Chapter XIII. of the Bhagavad-Gîtâ,
 
entitled “Kshetra-kshetra-jnavi-bhâga-yôgô,”
 
or “The Book of Religion by Sepa-
 
ration of Matter and Spirit”
 

19 posted on 05/11/2009 2:52:27 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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