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State Assembly Passes Ammunition Bill
rimoftheworld. ^ | Monday, June 15, 2009 | Dave Henderson

Posted on 06/18/2009 6:05:15 PM PDT by JoeProBono

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To: Travis McGee
I left CA for a free state. I'm driving back to San Diego on Sunday because I don't have any contracts that can be worked from my home office. I'm expecting to have that fixed by October, but that puts me in San Diego all summer. I'm not taking any of my firearms back into CA. Given all the drug cartel crap that is going on, I'm not really happy about returning to San Diego without adequate armament. Law enforcement is just there to collect the bodies.
41 posted on 06/18/2009 9:38:31 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: JoeProBono
Sacramento, CA - The State Assembly has passed Assembly Bill 962, by a vote of 42-31. AB 962 now heads to the Senate, where it has been assigned to the Senate Public Safety Committee. The bill, sponsored by Assemblyman Kevin de Leon (D-Los Angeles), would make it a crime to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month.

Oh I am so looking forward to breaking this law with my brothers in California!!!!!

42 posted on 06/18/2009 9:41:33 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Out of gas become a pill box, Out of ammo become a bunker, Out of hope become a hero.)
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To: Myrddin

Taking one of your bikes, at least? Good luck there. I share your misgivings about visiting CA at this time for any number of reasons.


43 posted on 06/18/2009 9:43:07 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86
Taking one of your bikes, at least? Good luck there. I share your misgivings about visiting CA at this time for any number of reasons.

Yes. I put a hitch on the Mercury Mariner Hybrid this morning. I have a single rail carrier coming into the Yamaha shop at noon tomorrow. It can carry 400 lbs. While I would love to have the DR650SE, it's a lot of bike to load by myself at 324 lbs dry. I'm going to take the Yamaha XT250 at 280 lbs. I can nearly lift the bike off the ground without ramp. I'm disappointed that I have to leave just as the weather is warming up. I'll really miss the Roadliner. No touring this year. The snow will be falling before I can get home to enjoy it. The Roadliner is 750 lbs. It would take a real trailer and I would have to take the F150 4x4 in place of the Mariner due to the 1000 lb towing limit of the Hybrid drive train. That's a non-starter due to the 60 mile round trip to work. That will be done in the Mariner. The F150 only gets 18 MPG vs 27+ in the Mariner.

Are things drying out enough in your area to do some off road riding? We've had thunderstorms every day for weeks. The snow is gone, but the soil is still too muddy. There's no way I'm going to risk riding a ridge top with cloud to ground lightning. The ridges have been quite a light show for weeks. I also wanted to take the bikes up to the sand dunes in St. Anthony this summer. That will have to be deferred as well.

44 posted on 06/18/2009 10:01:47 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: JoeProBono
Very nice, but not what's needed in this case.

Something more like this:

Which "eats" these:

(That's AF Chief Master Sergeant Tanya Breed doing the honors with the Barrett)

45 posted on 06/18/2009 10:11:59 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
(That's AF Chief Master Sergeant Tanya Breed doing the honors with the Barrett)

Actually that's a replacement image. :)

46 posted on 06/18/2009 10:14:43 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: JoeProBono; Kibosher

Coming to your state soon bump.


47 posted on 06/19/2009 3:35:12 AM PDT by panaxanax (Our Founding Fathers: The first American anti-government group.)
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To: Chode

You’re getting to the fun parts!


48 posted on 06/19/2009 5:46:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Myrddin

It’s been dry here. The rains seemed to start right about at the Idaho stateline. Someone I know about 55 miles north of Boise previously owned some alpine land. Now it is more like swamp.

Don’t buy any property while in California — too early yet.


49 posted on 06/19/2009 8:41:53 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: JoeProBono

Somebody want to explain to me again how ONLY a little part of Kali is blue and the rest red but this kind of horsesh*t can pass.


50 posted on 06/19/2009 8:52:31 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: steve86
Don’t buy any property while in California — too early yet.

My aim is to avoid have ANY assets in CA. I don't trust the politicians.

51 posted on 06/19/2009 9:46:33 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: JoeProBono

OK . . . The thing that bothers me most about this is they’re going to LICENSE/(read CONTROL!) all ammunition vendors. “TRACK” EVERY ROUND SOLD! REQUIRE A “THUMBPRINT”(to be submitted to the Dept. of Justice) TO BUY A ROUND OF AMMO . . . ?!!! And NO MORE INTERNET SALES! Then they’ll have us over the barrel for future legislation to impose taxes, fees, INSPECTIONS, and more restrictions! . . . read BAN!

AB 962 still has to pass the Senate, and the Goobernator . . . but that doesn’t give me any warm and fuzzies . . .

(and people wonder why some of us are wanting to stock up on a little extra ammo these days . . .)

Note: The “Shot Heard ‘Round The World”, April 19, 1775, happened because they came for our ammo. Make no mistake about it, they’re trying again . . .


52 posted on 06/19/2009 10:43:15 AM PDT by A Rifleman (The Appleseed Project - Returning America To A Nation of Rifleman)
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To: JoeProBono

California, the ammo free zone.


53 posted on 06/19/2009 11:10:43 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: JoeProBono

The Second Amendment’s Achilles Heel.

Ammo. They won’t ban guns, but just make it impossible to use them.

Kinda like tobacco, a legal product you can barely use anywhere.

Guns will be legal, but ammo, well, that’s another story.


54 posted on 06/19/2009 11:12:27 AM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: steve86
The Yamaha dealer delivered. I have the bike carrier. I've assembled and installed it on the Mariner. I loaded the XT250 without a problem. Just for grins, I loaded the DR650SE. It was a little more trouble, but I can still do it by myself. A helper to hook the straps would make it go faster. I'm using 6 cargo straps. 4 on the handle bars and two on the passenger grip handles. It feels very solid. I would rather have the DR650SE. It's freeway capable, 55 MPG. The TW200 and XT250 were purchased as 'starter' bikes and for riding down narrow dirt trails at very slow speeds.
55 posted on 06/19/2009 3:10:00 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: TigersEye
I’m afraid you may very well be right.

I don't WANT to be right about this. But I'm very concerned that I might be as well. If you simply follow the digression we're all watching now to its logical conclusion, it leads to what I suggested...unless it stops short at some point. But there's nothing leading us to believe this will happen...so we have to go based on what we know...and right now what we know doesn't look very good!
56 posted on 06/19/2009 6:07:08 PM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: hiredhand

I don’t want you to be right either. But, as you say, right now what we know doesn’t look very good.


57 posted on 06/19/2009 6:24:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: CodeToad
Somebody want to explain to me again how ONLY a little part of Kali is blue and the rest red but this kind of horsesh*t can pass.

Those little parts contain the bulk of the population. All crowded together like rats in a maze.

It's a common effect in many states. Even the Nebraska Unicameral is dominated by Omaha and some parts of Lincoln.

To some degree, other than in Nebraska, it's an effect of 'one man, one vote'. It's what the US government would be, if Senators were apportioned like Representatives on the basis of population. The Rat infested fever swamps would dominate.

58 posted on 06/19/2009 7:16:15 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Myrddin
The TW200 and XT250 were purchased as 'starter' bikes and for riding down narrow dirt trails at very slow speeds.

I found out what Idaho riders meant by "very slow speeds" when I attended the Idaho Desert 100 about 20 years ago. Essentially it meant WFO in 3rd or 4th LOL.

Good you got the carrier installed. I had one like that as a kid, went in the receiver of our 1965 Ford F-250, and my dad had it professionally fabricated for a fair chunk of change at the time. I've seen the new ones, with fancy hydraulic lifts and all that. Think you could heft an Electra-Glide on one if the hitch had the capacity!

I have had a couple of mini-incidents putting bikes on the trailer over all these years, especially when the bed is wet and I rode the bike up the ramp (wouldn't stop at the end!). It is hard for me to push the bikes up now, so I have had the motors running and walked it up with the clutch. Of course, it would be bad news if I lost control of the clutch, but it hasn't happened yet. This year, I'll try a wider ramp which I can walk up also and that might help.

Are you staying with relatives down there?

59 posted on 06/19/2009 9:13:31 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86
The rail for the carrier has a chock for the front wheel. It sits just above the square tube that fits into the receiver. There is extra support to keep the rail level and spots for 4 tie downs. The ramp hooks to the end of the rail, but stores between the tires with a carriage bolt to retain it. The hard part is pushing the front wheel up the rail level. After that, it becomes easier to push. The bike is 324 lbs dry. Once the bike is on the rail, I hook a strap from the center tie down to the passenger grip. That keeps the bike from rolling back and keeps the front wheel in the chock. I just start adding straps at that point. The carrier is rated for a 400 lb motorcycle. The tongue weight rating is 400 lbs/500 lbs with cross stays.

My 3 rail trailer + the Roadliner is probably just at the limit of the Mariner Hybrid's 1,000 lb limit. I'm content to get the DR650SE down to San Diego.

This whole exercise would be non-starter if I didn't have an inexpensive place to hang my hat. My mom still lives in El Cajon. That makes a 30 mile commute to the office. I'll have some in-kind exchanges of help with shopping, dining and household chores as well as covering all the costs of my food and utilities. My sister and her family live about 1/2 mile away, so I'll see her as well. I'll take care of some of the shopping runs she has covered for my mom.

We had an early Father's Day celebration this evening as I'll be driving all day on Sunday.

I've watched some of the folks at the Pocatello Motocross track at the end of last season. They do some amazing stuff there. Riding their bikes up the ramp into the back of a pickup is pretty common. They make it look easy. I also see lots of folks in town with big v-twins of all types that are taking a ride in the bed of a pickup. Many of them are taking a long drive to a place to do some touring. Distances that are much longer than they would be comfortable handling entirely on two wheels.

BTW, the TW200 and XT250 pull like tractors. They may be "slow", but that's just fine when you're navigating mountain trails from 5,000 to 9,000 ft elevation. When the air gets thin, you really notice trying to heft a bike around a difficult section. Being "fit" at 4600 ft is still not good enough when running around at 8,000.

60 posted on 06/19/2009 9:45:30 PM PDT by Myrddin
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