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Freeper Needs Advice on Buying A Food Dehydrator. Any Help Would Be Greatly Appreciated.
June 28, 2009 | appleseed

Posted on 06/28/2009 1:24:17 PM PDT by appleseed

We have accumulated probably 3-6 months worth of stuff thus far, a good chunk of it being dry and canned goods, but more and more I am eying that deep freeze and all the food in it, because although there have been discussions of a generator purchase, we still don’t have one and I am very wary of the possibility that a power loss will render most of it useless. Another motivation is the fact that dried food lasts for so much longer and loses far less nutrients than canning, and I would like to use or save every bit of every vegetable currently growing in our yard.

Therefore I am looking to buy a smallish yet efficient food dehydrator and before I blindly buy one off something like walmart.com, I’d love to hear recommendations from others. I am looking to spend between $50-100. What can you all tell me?

Second question - any good online how-to resources for food dehydration? Or books? This is an entirely new area for me.

And while I have you all - speaking of that generator...what should we look to buy for a family of five in a largish colonial (it’s not huge, but it’s 2700 sq ft)? Keeping in mind of course that we would be limiting our space and consumption in such a situation.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Food; Gardening; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: preppers; survivalists
My FRiend agrace needs some help on this. I took a big chunk out of my left leg, just above the knee today with a chainsaw. Thank Goodness my angel of mercy has it all cleaned out and bandaged. Can someone give some info? I'm also interested. Thanks in advance.
1 posted on 06/28/2009 1:24:17 PM PDT by appleseed
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2 posted on 06/28/2009 1:25:54 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: appleseed

On any other day I’d tell you to ask Billy Mays, but...


3 posted on 06/28/2009 1:27:09 PM PDT by joejm65
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To: appleseed
Sorry about the knee.

We have an Excalibur by Parallexx

http://www.veggiesensations.com/exde35decosh.html

I think a person with a little knowhow could build one for a lot less. (heater and fan in a box with trays) but, this one works well (9 years) and has a 10 year warranty.

Makes great jerky!

4 posted on 06/28/2009 1:33:22 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: appleseed
Sorry about the knee.

We have an Excalibur by Parallexx

http://www.veggiesensations.com/exde35decosh.html

I think a person with a little knowhow could build one for a lot less. (heater and fan in a box with trays) but, this one works well (9 years) and has a 10 year warranty.

Makes great jerky!

5 posted on 06/28/2009 1:37:14 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: appleseed

I’ve been thinking about getting one of these.
http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/dehydrators.aspx


6 posted on 06/28/2009 1:39:02 PM PDT by CJinVA
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To: appleseed

We just bought a portable 6500 surge watts (5000 watt running) propane generator with electric start.($800.00)

Propane can be kept forever as opposed to the short life of gasoline.

If you’re looking to power your entire house you will need something a lot bigger and a lot more expensive.

Here’s a chart to help you determine what appliances/devices you will need to power in the event of an outage.

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outdoor/generator/sizing.aspx


7 posted on 06/28/2009 1:44:13 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: vigl

The American Harvest/Nesco Gardenmaster Dehydrator

I found this here. Don’t remember who posted it.
http://www.rc4systems.net/Downloads/Food-Dehydration/


8 posted on 06/28/2009 1:44:48 PM PDT by CJinVA
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To: appleseed

A chainsaws one dangerous son of a gun.

I cut my pants at my thigh back in the winter and didn`t touch the skin.Scared the crap outta me

Got me one of those ballistic nylon safety chaps


9 posted on 06/28/2009 1:48:50 PM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: appleseed

Well, while you still have power and an oven you can get a lot of stuff done now:


Dehydrating Your Own Food:

Dehydrating your own food is easy. Contrary to what many people believe you do not need a fancy food dehydrator for this. Native Indians have been dehydrating food for thousands of years using nothing more then sun and smoke. Although this method works great I prefer a more modern device - an oven. You can turn your oven into a food dehydrator quite easily. Simply turn it onto it’s lowest setting and prop the door open slightly. Food can be placed on cookies sheets in the oven, and will dry completely overnight. Using all three racks in my oven I can dehydrate enough food in one night to feed four adults on a weekend trip.

You can turn almost any meal into dehydrated food. Simply prepare it as you usually would. Once it’s cooked spread it out on a cookie sheet and dehydrate it in your oven. To ease dehydration and preparation on the trail cut all pieces as small as possible. Generally speaking you’ll want meat to be cut into pieces no more then 1cm x 1cm. Vegetables should be cut as small as possible, or even grated. Frozen vegetable mixes are often already cut to the right size. You can prepare dehydrated foods whenever you wish and store them in the freezer. Foods stored in this manner are good for years.

Once the food is dehydrated place it into a Ziploc bag. This bag will both store your food and provide you with a container to rehydrate it in. When your done the meal simply rinse out the bag and place it in your pack. You can then carry it back home and reuse it.


Cooking Dehydrated Food:

If using commercial food follow the instructions on the package. If preparing your own follow these steps:

1) One to two hours before the meal add some water to the Ziploc bag containing your food (note: keep rice, pasta’s and potato’s separate. Don’t add water to these items).

2) Kneed the food gently to work in the water. Keep adding water and kneading the mixture until it is dehydrated.

3) Cook any rice/noodles/potato’s that are in the meal.

4) Next heat your rehydrated food until hot - there is no need to cook it. You may need to add a small amount of water during this step.

5) Mix the rehydrated food with your potatoes/rice/pasta and serve.

By following these steps you’ll have a properly rehydrated and great tasting meal every time, while preserving fuel.


10 posted on 06/28/2009 1:54:12 PM PDT by Kandy
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To: appleseed

I have a L’Equip that’s running right now drying plums and green beans. The drying time is much longer than the listed times in the instruction manual. I went online to various forums to get better idea of drying times.

Of course, I live in a swamp and it is very very humid so that might account for the differential in drying times.

I like it. It has six trays, quiet, and also equipment for fruit leathers.


11 posted on 06/28/2009 2:06:31 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Those embryos are little humans in progress. Using them for profit is slavery.)
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To: vigl

I have a NESCO with six trays, and it works just fine. I think if I had a garden that produces a LOT of produce, I might invest in something bigger, but this one is fine. Since dehydrated foods shrinks up to itsy bitsy pieces, make sure you have screens that will keep the food from falling through. I know with NESCO you can buy mesh screens to fit on the trays.


12 posted on 06/28/2009 2:28:41 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Survival is a Mom's Job! Check out my new blog: www.thesurvivalmom.com)
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To: appleseed

I have the 9 tray Excalibur (for about 10 years now).
I would buy another one.
My first dehydrator (mid to late 80’s) was an American Harvester; the racks cracked the first time I used it (cracked during use, not cleaning).
Called the company and they told me cracked racks would still work fine (yeah, as long as I didn’t try to clean them). I was NOT happy with their service or product. I chunked it and got the Excalibur and have NEVER had a problem with it.
The racks and the mesh screens are easy to clean.
http://www.excaliburdehydrator.com/product.php
I HIGHLY recommend this book:
http://www.amazon.com/How-Dry-Foods-Deanna-Delong/dp/1557884978


13 posted on 06/28/2009 2:37:03 PM PDT by two23 (The Left: Liars, Accusers, Blamers, Whiners and Thieves.)
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To: appleseed

Here’s a kind of a strange one, but it works and is free. Doesn’t even use any energy.

Place food on racks over drip pans. Hang in your car parked in a sunny place with one or two windows very slightly cracked. Dries things out quickly if food slices are thin.

Makes your car smell like whatever you’re drying, of course.

I’ve also used this technique to dry my cell phone when it fell in the sink. Worked like a charm.

BTW, what’s your reason for believing dried food loses less food value than canned? I suspect it varies with the nutrient in question.


14 posted on 06/28/2009 2:42:30 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles, reality wins all the wars)
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To: appleseed

How to dehydrate and store food PART 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxVpIHre2ao

Most everything you’ll need to know. Not a real professional production but it’s still chocked full of info. She uses the 9 tray Excaliber.

http://www.excaliburdehydrator.com/


15 posted on 06/28/2009 2:43:25 PM PDT by Walmartian
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To: appleseed

Ditto on the 9 tray Excalibur! Had this a couple of years, don’t remember the one before. Put a bowl of water in the bottom, set at 99F, put in fertile eggs, turn twice a day, keep the water full, 21 days later you have chicks! Did that for years until we got an incubator.


16 posted on 06/28/2009 2:55:43 PM PDT by stickandrudder (Another Bitter-Clinger --------------- Molon Labe)
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To: appleseed
You can use your oven as a food dehydrator -- lowest temperature (150-200 if you can) and/or leave the door cracked a bit. Plus, you can fit far more into the average oven than into anything other than a commercial-grade dehyrator. To increase your drying area even more, see if you can put some stacking metal cooling racks on your present oven racks.

Keep in mind that most items "drip" when dehydrating -- meats drip grease, fruits drip sugar, etc. So, (1) keep that in mind when stacking things for drying, and (2) line the bottom of the oven with heavy-duty aluminum to catch all the mess.

Get books on food presevation from the library, or do a Google search -- there are plenty of instructions online. Experiment a little at first -- pineapple rings, sliced tomatoes, some sliced beef -- and you will learn a lot.

17 posted on 06/28/2009 2:58:11 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: ibheath

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18 posted on 06/28/2009 3:03:33 PM PDT by ibheath (Stand ready to fight the coming madness.)
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To: appleseed

a bit off topic but this place caters to Amish and such if you are worried about living without power or limited power it is a interesting place to look

http://www.lehmans.com/

enjoy


19 posted on 06/28/2009 3:15:47 PM PDT by mouser
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To: Sherman Logan
BTW, what’s your reason for believing dried food loses less food value than canned? I suspect it varies with the nutrient in question.

I'll address this since those are my words...just what I've read. That the canning process by nature leaches out the nutrients while drying preserves them within the food.

For example, from this link -

Because drying does not violently heat food, it does not destroy as many of the nutrients as canning or cooking.

You're probably right though, probably determined by the type of food being dried.

Thanks all, for your responses thus far.

20 posted on 06/28/2009 3:17:42 PM PDT by agrace
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To: agrace

http://www.uga.edu/nchfp/how/dry.html

From the Nation Center for Home Food Preservation..lots of info about canning on there too.


21 posted on 06/28/2009 3:23:19 PM PDT by garandgal
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To: mouser

A website for the Amish seems a tad oxymoronish, don’t you think?


22 posted on 06/28/2009 3:31:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles, reality wins all the wars)
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To: Sherman Logan
A website for the Amish seems a tad oxymoronish, don’t you think?

Somewhat but they also have a catalog and i think that is what most of the old order Amish use.

If you ever worry about living without power they have a lot of stuff just be careful about letting the little woman see the oil lamps and such.

23 posted on 06/28/2009 3:37:24 PM PDT by mouser
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To: appleseed
I haven't tried this, but you may want to check out Alton Brown's homemade food drier:

1 Box fan
4 paper HVAC filters
8 “dehydrator sheets” (?)
2 Bungee cords

See the “recipe” here

He builds and uses the thing on the episode “Withering Bites” and (IIRC) one on drying spices ... or maybe jerky.

24 posted on 06/28/2009 4:16:54 PM PDT by Stegall Tx (Democrats: raising your taxes; cheating on theirs.)
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To: appleseed

The LDS Church knows about this stuff:
http://www.providentliving.org/channel/1,11677,1706-1,00.html


25 posted on 06/28/2009 6:06:02 PM PDT by donna (Democracy is not enough. If the culture dies, the country dies." - Pat Buchanan)
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To: donna
Here is one way to do a food dehydrator review, divide the price of the units you are looking at by the total drying area of the dehydrators to get a price per square foot of drying area. I believe horizontal air flow dehydrators are better than vertical ones. Good luck.
26 posted on 06/28/2009 7:41:44 PM PDT by robyn11
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To: appleseed

mark for later reading


27 posted on 06/28/2009 9:35:59 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: appleseed

http://www.motherearthnews.com/Do-It-Yourself/2006-08-01/Build-a-Solar-Food-Dehydrator.aspx

Dang dude be careful with that chain saw........I have used one since ripe old age of 12 and have had kickbacks and such yet now I wear the kevlar when cutting wood. It’s there use it ! Too old and heal a lot slower in my case....;o)

Hope yer ok !

This dehydrator is a MEN design and works well. Friend has one ...... I sun dry tomatos and chili peppers and that is all.

STAY SAFE !!


28 posted on 06/28/2009 9:42:51 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: appleseed

Yikes! My knee hurts just thinking about it.

I, too, have an Excalibur. The 9 tray model.

Love it so much that when my ex tried to sneak it out of our house as part of his “personal effects” I made my lawyers file the papers to force him to return it to me.

And the judge agreed! :)


29 posted on 06/28/2009 10:31:55 PM PDT by Daisyjane69
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To: appleseed

I have an ancient one from Ronco like from the 70s that has stood the test of time and looks just like a new one on their site except mine is black. Slice some beef thin with an electric knife, dip into some soy sauce (and a spoon of brown sugar if you want sweet) and sprinkle with pepper - the best jerky ever. Fruit does well, too. It comes with little plastic containers to make yogurt but I’ve never done that. I make my yogurt in a mayo jar on a heating pad and covered with a crockpot. If you want the instructions, ping me.

https://www.ronco.com/FoodDehydrator

If you like to build stuff, check out:

http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Cooking/cooking.htm

Using your oven works great, but you would want to do that in the winter and not heat up your house during the summer.


30 posted on 06/29/2009 6:23:33 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: bgill; All

Wow, do I like the idea of only spending 40 bucks! :) Thanks to all for the responses, they are greatly appreciated.


31 posted on 06/30/2009 10:58:17 AM PDT by agrace
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To: wolfcreek

Great link with great information, thanks. Could you post or freepmail me the model details of your generator? That price, compared to many, isn’t too bad.


32 posted on 06/30/2009 1:05:57 PM PDT by agrace
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To: agrace
http://duropower.com/index.asp?FID=15&level=1

We got the 6500elp for the price of the 5500elp. We looked at many different ones and this was the least expensive propane model. Fired right up after delivery.

33 posted on 06/30/2009 1:24:06 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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