Posted on 07/05/2009 12:58:12 PM PDT by ckilmer
A private investigator has released to WND an affidavit that casts doubt on whether Barack Obama's family lived at the address listed in the published notice of his birth in 1961.
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
"Public records from the time show that Barack H. Obama, 25, also had a residence at 625 11th Ave. in Kaimuki."
Is there any public record of where dunham's parents lived in 1961. Or who lived at 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., , Aug. 4 1961.
The WND article says the owners of 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy were Orland S. and Thelma S. (Young) Lefforge
Are there public records available to confirm that?
So far nothing has come about regarding President Barry.
having witnesses who lived next to the stated address who deny that a white woman gave birth to a black child in 1961 is pretty powerful, IMO. The “physical evidence” is being deliberately hidden or has been destroyed because of it’s incrimination. Therefore.... actual evidence of people who were there has to be considered important.
My gut tells me that although I would like for him to have been born in Kenya and thus disqualified from this office, that this all boils down to the fact that NO Father was listed on his birth certificate. And that his mother gave a false address, while living with her parents, or friends (not Barry’s father). (ie. he is a b—tard.)
It is possible there is more and it should be examined.
But a far more important issues are his passport records and registration at Columbia and Occidental College. Was he registered as a foreign exchange student. That is a serious probability.
Also his trip to Pakistan before college.
This will not go away. It will eventually be brought to light. I am surprised that with as many “powerful” people he has made enemies with due to his actions, that none of this has surfaced.
We shall see.
Well it’s not like Obama’s grandmother, who lived, what, 84 years(?) conveniently died about 36 hours before the election.
Oh, wait ... she did.
An interview with her and a couple of pointed questions could have been quite enlightening.
Now, we’ll never get that chance.
I don’t think it will be very much longer before the “real” birth certificate magically appears on a desk in Hillary’s office. All will be fine in Corruptionville.
OK who is the WND and why do they keep pulling this?
He is the President...that is not going to change...
lets move on to 2012 or 2016...he won...we live in
a Democracy...if you dont like him....get to work
so we can vote him out!!!
bump to the top
I still think he needs to prove he is a citizen. Produce the long form if you can. iF you cannot please step down. We all know he won’t step down it is about power.
“The WND article says the owners of 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy were Orland S. and Thelma S. (Young) Lefforge.”
Are they still living?.................How about now?
It does the Republican Party NO HARM to continue to hound Obama on the Birth Certificate issue, on the passport issue, on the college records issue, on the Selective Service issue.
Obama promised “transparency”!
Obama promised an “open” administration.
Obama became famous due to his two FRAUDULENT “autobiographies” -— and writing fake works and passing them off as genuine is usually enough to get you disqualified as a serious person!
We all have every right to keep hammering away at this, no matter what the answers might be.
It hurts Obama’s credibility, it hurts his “mandate” to govern. It keeps him off balance.
Investigator casts doubt on Obama's birth residence
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I agree with you. Even if he wasn’t born in the US, there is enough of a machine in place that we’ll never know the truth without voting ALL the ‘RATS out and turning the government agencies inside out.
We need to remember that this is CHICAGO politics.
It’s pretty silly to expect someone-who lives in an area in which mixed race births are exceedingly common - to remember one such birth 46 years ago !
I think the real question is : Why is WND (already one of the least credible websites this side of DU) flogging this story - here and abroad - when they know with reasonable probability it is false ?
A possible explanation may be found in this excerpt from a doctrinal statement:
“We will use guerrilla tactics to undermine the legitimacy of the dominant regime. We will take advantage of every available opportunity to spread the idea that there is something fundamentally wrong with the existing state of affairs. ... contribute to a vague sense of uneasiness and dissatisfaction with existing society. ... We need to break down before we can build up. We must first clear away the flotsam of a decayed culture.”
As far as “credibility” goes, WND has far more of that commodity than you.
Mixed raced births, 50 years ago, were NOT common, in Hawaii.
You are spouting fiction.
Actually we live in Republic.
No we don't.
Sorry in a Republic!
I guess you never pledge allegiance to the flag. You pledge to the Republic for which it stands!!
Other rumors are that's why she is Sec. of State and no other reason.
good one
ping
"Moreover, Arakaki said she believed that when Obama lived with the Dunhams, his grandparents, the family address was in Waikiki, not on Kalanianaole Highway. "
And she would know this how?
"Mixed Race" births were not so common 50 years ago, and I'd wager in Hawaii, black/white mixed race births even less so.
Thanks, LucyT
Ping.
Are you implying that Barry is a Bastard?
Becuase I think he is a Prick.
Damn good post. The truth will set us free of him.
“....he won...we live in
a Democracy...”
SO? Our Constitution spells out the specific requirements to be eligible to hold the office. So far, he has NOT provided evidence that he is eligible.
If we are to be a nation of laws, then let’s start with the primary law of the land.
Keep the heat on him. The truth will come out.
No, actually, we do not. We live in a constituional republic.
All we are saying
is give release a chance.
We little people need official copies of our full birth certificates.
I thought Dems believed in equality and "social justice" -- hmmm, a Republican violates "family values" and he catches hell.
A Democrat violates his values and we little people catch hell for even asking about it.
Yes, and Barred from any more appearances on Oprah!
A “Million Pieces” of lies will raise her ire.
Here is where I lose when I bring up Barry’s ‘citizenship’ . I can make a great case for the shenanigans around the cover up around the birth certificate, but I really don’t have a good comeback for the following: If Barry’s mother is an american citizen isn’t Barry automatically a citizen, eligible for the presidency regardless of where he is born? In other words, if you are born overseas of an american citizen, is that sufficient or do you also have to not only be born of an american citizen but also born on US soil?
What he said.
Mr. Mean, why ya gotta be a hate-uh? Is it genetic? lol
I think powerful people fear rioting. Your top insurance companies are financially crippled by their involvement in derivatives. They are barely keeping up payments on annuities, and minimum guaranteed returns for cash value life insurance. If Obama is kicked out, and all the blacks go ballistics with rioting in every major US cities. The property damage and payouts would be staggering. That will finish the major insurance companies financially unless the US gov steps in with more bailout money. That is my $ .02 on the situation. We will have to wait till BHO approval drop below 30 percent before this issue can be raised.
we live in a Democracy.
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Since when?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhNobpG_4fQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htTnD_Zl0bs&feature=related
From what I have read “both” the mother and father have to be US citizens and the mother did not qualify under the laws of Hawaii anyway.
Was his name Lucas Smith ?
ducking :-)
Are you implying that Barry is a Bastard?
Becuase I think he is a Prick.
______________________
I think he’s both of the above but also a closet homosexual and a Communist.
” Also his trip to Pakistan before college.”
Or why Michelle and he made Bali, Indonesia their home for “ months “ in 1994.
So, he could find peace and quiet to finish Dreams.
( paragraph 20 )
The United States had no peaceful places for Obama, who was a nobody back then, to finish his book.
And he needed months, not weeks ,to do this.
One of two scenarios IMHO:
. If Hillary had that card, she'd probably have played it by now; or
. The Democratic Party is covering it up and likely helping pay to keep the college and birth documentation sealed for perpetuity. They cannot afford for this information to ever be revealed, no matter what it takes to keep it untouchable. Scare tactics to the supremes (riots in the streets - burning of cities) could be used to contradict constitutional law.
To bad Steve McGarrett is not running Hawaii Five-0 anymore. He would get to the bottom of this in no time. He could send Chin over to check out that phony Kalanianaole Highway address as Che proves Zero’s birth certificate to be a forgery.
Then we could all watch as Steve (with not a hair out of place) turns to Danny (as Zero is being cuffed) and says, “Book him Dan-O”.
I can dream, can’t I?
So, you may ask, why is it even important to be more strictly a natural born citizen? ... Short answer is That is what the Constitution requires.
So, you may ask, what is the harm if this particular pres__ent is not a real natural born citizen? ... Simplest answer, if we the people can be prevented from having the standing to require he prove his natural boirn status as per the Constitution, then the Constitutional contract between we the people and the federal oligarchs has been abrogated by the federal oligarchs and we the people are no long the sovereigns, thus the 'Constitutional Republic' has ended in a legal sense.
The Hawaii birth is bogus. He was born in Kenya or God know’s where. What I mean is, and this is the challenge I don’t have an answer for is: if he was born in Kenya to a woman who was an American citizen, does that make him an American citizen eligible to run for President? Because we know for a fact his father is a Kenyan, and apparently no ones thinks having a Kenyan father disqualifies him.
Er.......WND, or World Net Daily...is an amazing online investigative and research oriented conservative site, as well as a superb resource for excellent editorials and analysis of ongoing political events. Try it out...you’ll LIKE IT!
Further his natural born eligibility is eroded in the definition of allegiance, citizenship and laws that govern you as a citizen of the country from whence you came.
You will find a further definition in the 14th amendment:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Barry's Father was a citizen of Kenya and subject to jurisdiction of said country. In other words he is entitled to or restricted to any conveyance of laws by the country of Kenya.
Barry acknowledges this and apparently no one cares. Barry tells you proudly that he was a citizen of Kenya due to his father's citizenship. It is there in plain view, unabashedly.
Was Barry a citizen of the United States at the time of his birth? The answer is probably no and you will find others who will add to this post, shortly.
Even if he was born here, which is very much in doubt, he cannot be a "Natural Born Citizen" as his father was a Kenyan, making him a citizen of Kenya. If one wants to extend to him citizenship because his mother was born here and was citizen at the time of his birth, again the argument that he is "Natural Born" falls apart and he admits as much. At best he would have a divided citizenship and thus his ability to be President by a clouded birth of citizenship which the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land, makes a clear distinction as to who qualifies.
Bottom line is Barry was a citizen of another country at birth and his citizenship at birth is clearly not natural born.
Both Parents are required to citizens of the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. You will find reasons why they could be disqualified as being under the jurisdiction of the United States to bolster your argument but that might be for another time.
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