Skip to comments.Federal Judge to hear Obama Birth Certificate on the Merits!
Posted on 07/13/2009 8:48:39 PM PDT by FARS
Obama eligibility case will be heard on the merits !! Please distribute everywhere.
At the hearing today at the Federal Court building in Santa Ana, Judge Carter reportedly said the following: 1. There will be a trial. 2. It will be heard on the merits. 3. Nothing will be dismissed on proceedural issues. 4. The trial will be expeditious, and the judge pledged to give case priority. 5. Being a former Marine he realizes the importance of having a Constitutionally qualified POTUS/CINC. 6. Judge stated that if Obama isn't Constitutionally qualifed he needs to leave the White House.
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As a matter of fact, I have become hopeful.
If the country gets out of the several messes it is in with only a bloody fight over whether or not the current guy is qualified to be President on Constitutional grounds, I think that is a plus.
We need to defeat the Cap and Trade Bill; we need to defeat the socialized medicine bill; it would be nice to keep Sotomeyer off the Supreme Court bench; but if we do that and by the time we are done, the Administration is handicapped by obvious problems with Obama's eligibility that are likely to last the remainder of his term even if he doesn't get kicked out by legal process, we have a shot at getting the country back in 2012.
We are on the same page.
Cheers . . .
The bow was inexplicable and unnecessary. Hmmm
I sorta figured the riots in Iran had more to do with Bush placing a democracy or two right next to Iran and then the justifiable outrage of Iranians over their scam of an election. Of course, I can see why BO, and perhaps others, might want to claim/blame this on the speech in Cairo.
It would seem that BO could unintentionally help Israel by his fealty to the Sunis? Not good at all for the US to have a side in this - other than our own.
Very interesting. Thanks for the reply!
“Now if you want to direct your hostility to the appropriate parties who looked the other way then please look no further than the DNC, Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Diane Feinstein. These are the culprits who signed off on the eligibility documents required by individual states Board of Elections. The Party is the sole determiner in vetting their candidates eligibility. No federal agent is required by law to vet said candidates.”
So we should be calling these people and asking why they pulled the fight the smears website which was their primary basis for qualification? They no longer have any public documents vetting obama.
see post 500 (written by a democrat)
Very good. I have often wondered if one of the reasons that the republicans did not make a fuss about Obama’s status was becasue of Jindal?? Don’t get me wrong, I love Jindal..but if he is not a natural born citizen, then he need not apply. PERIOD!
Honestly he is almost more dangerous as a martyr...
We have a shot at getting the country back in 2010, if we can take back congress and the senate.
Democrats seem to encourage a lot of people they want us to be stuck with too. Jiondal needs to be where he is for now....CLean up that mess...and then move up to something else.
Now there's a surprise. I hadn't heard that one. Polarik, can you enlighten us further?
Thank you for this- it really looks promising.
I had not read that. I just said those words off the top of my head. Good for Dr. Keyes.
It would be a price unrecognized by the American people.
That’s our problems, 53 million + of our fellow Americans are fifth columnists.
#500 ............. PING!
Clear and excellent explanation! Thanks for posting.
“So many questions...so few answers.”
Got that right !
Why were the US attorneys there ? I am going to assume that Dr. Taitz filed a “return of service” that the defendant Obama had been served through the US DOJ. If that is the case, regardless of flaws in service such as may have existed, the US Attorneys would be listed as parties to be noticed until the service issue was resolved. They would be copied on everything filed in the case, and would have received notice to attend the hearing.
I’m tempted to look up the case at PACER and print out the docket sheet and some of the case activity. But what I really want to see is the transcript of yesterday’s hearing. Transcripts are typically not posted in the court’s records, so hopefully Dr. Taitz or some intrepid reporter orders it and puts it online to clarify what actually went on yesterday.
Thanks, found the details after all-ties back to Bush’s Executive order plus compelling Gov’t officals to perform their duties
Excellent post; logical to its conclusion.
Major Cook's orders were just revoked as of 1700 hrs today. Will advise further later.
To the best of my knowledge, the Canal Zone was under the United States flag. I can recall world maps with the notation "Canal Zone (U. S.)." Plus, the Canal Zone elected delegates to the parties' conventions.
Although the writers of the Constitution probably could not foresee situations where a person born abroad to two American citizen parents - one parent serving in the American military abroad at the time - would be the subject of this constitutional inquiry, I would rule in McCain's favor if I were a judge, based on my presumption that the founders would not have had any concerns about a person with this pedigree having any foreign loyalty. Nevertheless, I think that a constitutional amendment might be a good idea to clear up any doubt.
HEADS UP - FOX NEWS just mentioned the Santa Ana, Alan Keyes birth eligibility case as being part of two cases filed by a military person called Cook, who is contesting his deployment and the eligibility of Obama to be President and send him anywhere or issue orders.
Amusingly, this came up about 30-minutes after AntiMullah sent them an Email on the subject.
You bet it does and persons in the service of the US were told at basic training that citizenship and rights of any children born to them offshore were subject to different rules than would be applicable if born in the US and the differences were explained in detail.
Thanks, I did not know that.
BTW, this has been a rather long thread, and I have only been able to skim through this. Maybe something has not occurred to you, most of my time is spent trying to run a business in this economy. I am not on this forum 24/7.
Yep, Bret Baier reported it. Thanks, FARS.
Takes some legs to make the boots walk.
Good...Sent links on both cases to a dozen or so FOX folks last night when everything was first coming out....Know others were also sending them out...Drudge had it up today, AP, and US TODAY...There were two other before the LA times article came out about 2:00 AM.
Yes, “sigh” is right and patience needed to deal with the repetitive “is citizen” as opposed “is natural born citizen”
Looked at the docket sheet earlier nothing was there then.
Orley’s paper work was put up on FR earlier...I’ll ping you to it, if you wish.
Would love to see the transcipt (give to dad) if you find it ping me to it.
Does he have grounds to have a suit now that his orders were revoked?
Send an email to Bret and thank him. (He’s one of Tony’s prodigies IIRC)
The Orly Taitz, “she” is an attorney who is filing the motions and does NOT have to write like a journalist to please you.
Perhaps you might stop trying to shoot down the situation by casting doubts and aspersions. Did you vote for Obamessiah?
FOX NEWS just used the news about 40 minutes ago so that should satisfy you of the validity of the situation or nudge you to find more things to naysay or criticize. Totally your right to do so but it might help if you read up on it and tried to focus more adroitly.
Including noting that AntiMullah.com occasionally breaks national and international news stories through private contacts.
Camp Pendelton is nearby and you can bet they will fill his courtroom and do off duty protection detail as needed
Now that would be an interesting turn of events.
If there is one judge in the system who would go the full nine yards even to nullification it is Judge Carter. Very savvy and very patriotic.
Guess it’s on this thread earlier post 388.
For all you doubters out there in Free Republic:
Opponents Of Barack Obama’s Presidency Claim Small Court Victory, 7/13/09 by Tami Abdollah, Los Angles Times
Sure...I guess that mkes me some sort of racist because I didn’t want a Euro/Socialist running the show...
Oh heck, I forgot...He’s half black...Somehow I overlooked that fact the whole time...
I love it when someone calls me a racist...All I do is introduce them to my wife of 9 years...The former Miss Morales of Pasadena (Texas)...
They usually shutup after that...I just smile...
Wow, what a coincidence :)
Hate to disagree with you Doug but I think the national uproar would be so great that the Democrats, claiming that Obama defrauded them, would move to impeach in a heartbeat.
There would be holdouts, but sober heads in the Dem. Party would know to fight to keep a President that attained office illegally would be the death knell of the party.
I'll share a big bowl of popcorn with you if it happens. It will be fun to watch...tragic in a real sense, but an event that might sober the entire country to serious purpose again - an that would be a blessing.
>>”Who will remove Obama if he cant prove his birth as an American citizen?”<<
How about us, the American citizens who have been defrauded and robbed by his illegally appointed czars etc..
I take your point. But knowing the Democrats as I know them, they will create the scenario that it would be too damaging to the country, that we would collapse if her were impeached.
It usually takes a couple of days to show up in the PACER system.
The citizen ship issue is very interesting. I put little stock in the Kenya birth theory. In 1964 BHO senior married or shacked up with yet another white woman who also bore him a child and this one was born in Kenya. 45 years later blurred memories might very well confuse this child with Obama.
More interesting is that Stanley Ann Dunham was in Seattle WA in late Aug 1961. To my knowledge there are no flight manifests of when she arrived. The obamafiles say that she was cleared by her doctor to fly with an infant 3 weeks after his birth. This seems suspect to me. Also suspect is that Vancouver CA was a rife with homes for unwed mothers at that time. Why Canada?
To answer the question of ‘why Canada, eh?’
We know from a friend on Mercer Island that Ann Dunham was there with infant Barry. As women were in 1961 in a delicate condition, where their air travel was deemed harmful just like getting up on a stool, and hauling babies around was just not done and mothers and infants stayed usually a week in the hospital, it means that her friend was seeing Ann and Barry on their way home to Hawaii.
That means they were someplace else.
The United States of course is negated as if a baby born in Spokane was American, there would be no reason to register the baby twice in Hawaii.
Kenya being in Africa, required all sorts of vaccinations for travelers there. A pregnant woman would not be vaccinated, so this rules out pregnant Ann Dunham.
This by elimination means Canada for Ann to make baby Barry jr. just like Barry sr. a full-fledged British subject of the Queen and future Prime Minister.
As Kenya was still a colony in 1961 and did not open a consular office in Ottawa until 1978, that rules out any registration with Kenya or Ann having a reason to travel by train east into Ottawa as all she desired was in Vancouver, British Columbia.
The British Embassy which would handle all commonwealth information and probably birth registrations passing the information along to Kenya and perhaps a telegram of congratulations to Barack sr. on having junior has a consular in Vancouver.
1111 Melville Street, Suite 800
Vancouver, British Columbia V6E 3V6
Tel: 604 683 4421
Fax: 604 681 0693
Obviously, those records would be extremely interesting as to the date if it did not match the Hawaii birth certificate in being sent before his birthday that he was born. Location of course would be most interesting too if the telegram was from Vancouver or Ottawa embassy announcing the joyful news.
Nice part about this too is phone records should still be available even in Kenya in the date and location calls came in if a reporter cared to check.
Where there are definite records are in hospitals. Vancouver would attract an out of town 18 year old girl to two.
The first would be the new 1959 constructed Vancouver General Hospital and the Children’s Hospital established in 1947.
And as white girls having black babies in vanilla Canada would be quite noticeable along with a girl telling nurses and perhaps embassy officials, “The daddy is Kenyan and I’m American, but I demand my baby be a British baby”, sort of would stick in the minds of prudish Canadian nurses who probably only saw black people on boxes of Cream of Wheat.
I actually requested a reporter babe to check into this concerning the hospitals in Hawaii weeks ago as I asked her, “Just why is everyone taking a Democratic state’s word, a Democratic employee’s word for a Democratic candidate?”
As noted before, Barack Obama’s sister, Maya, has 2 online registered birth months of August and September. This would point to Ann Dunham having had Maya out of the country, too and in a few weeks hauled her back to Hawaii for a late registration too to be an American.
So this is all the Barack Obama BC birth certificate mess everyone needs to help him out with as he is more qualified with the above birth certificate to be Canadian Prime Minster than the one DailyKos has issued in June 2007 in being an American President.
At least with the above, there is probably a real one in Vancouver to back it up.
Barack Obama, BC, (British Columbia) BCE, (Before Conning Everyone) and AD (Angelic Diety)
He seems to be a man of all history, past, present and future depending on the script.
Post Script: One might note that Dudley Dooright signed Barack’s birth certificate, so we know this one is real too as it is posted online.
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Also not that HI allowed a BC to be filed up to one year after the child was born in 1961 so it means nothing in regard to WHERE the child was born.
If you say so...I’ll take your word on it, out of respect...
But if yer wrong, you’re going to get such a noogie!!!
Cool, then they can also be brought up on charges of treason and who knows how many other charges. I will laugh and shed tears of joy as they are escorted at gunpoint in shackles to prison. God please let it happen...I know I ask for alot but please for my country.
No judge will set off nation wide, if not world wide, riots by saying Obama is not legally the president. Doesn't matter what the real truth is, that won't happen.
This is wasting time that should be spent fighting other issues. The climate bill sailed through the House, and that is an economy ender.
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