Posted on 07/13/2009 8:48:39 PM PDT by FARS
Obama eligibility case will be heard on the merits !! Please distribute everywhere.
At the hearing today at the Federal Court building in Santa Ana, Judge Carter reportedly said the following: 1. There will be a trial. 2. It will be heard on the merits. 3. Nothing will be dismissed on proceedural issues. 4. The trial will be expeditious, and the judge pledged to give case priority. 5. Being a former Marine he realizes the importance of having a Constitutionally qualified POTUS/CINC. 6. Judge stated that if Obama isn't Constitutionally qualifed he needs to leave the White House.
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Hate to disagree with you Doug but I think the national uproar would be so great that the Democrats, claiming that Obama defrauded them, would move to impeach in a heartbeat.
There would be holdouts, but sober heads in the Dem. Party would know to fight to keep a President that attained office illegally would be the death knell of the party.
I'll share a big bowl of popcorn with you if it happens. It will be fun to watch...tragic in a real sense, but an event that might sober the entire country to serious purpose again - an that would be a blessing.
>>”Who will remove Obama if he can’t prove his birth as an American citizen?”<<
How about us, the American citizens who have been defrauded and robbed by his illegally appointed czars etc..
I take your point. But knowing the Democrats as I know them, they will create the scenario that it would be too damaging to the country, that we would collapse if her were impeached.
It usually takes a couple of days to show up in the PACER system.
The citizen ship issue is very interesting. I put little stock in the Kenya birth theory. In 1964 BHO senior married or shacked up with yet another white woman who also bore him a child and this one was born in Kenya. 45 years later blurred memories might very well confuse this child with Obama.
More interesting is that Stanley Ann Dunham was in Seattle WA in late Aug 1961. To my knowledge there are no flight manifests of when she arrived. The obamafiles say that she was cleared by her doctor to fly with an infant 3 weeks after his birth. This seems suspect to me. Also suspect is that Vancouver CA was a rife with homes for unwed mothers at that time. Why Canada?
From:
http://www.rense.com/general82/pbb.htm
To answer the question of ‘why Canada, eh?’
We know from a friend on Mercer Island that Ann Dunham was there with infant Barry. As women were in 1961 in a delicate condition, where their air travel was deemed harmful just like getting up on a stool, and hauling babies around was just not done and mothers and infants stayed usually a week in the hospital, it means that her friend was seeing Ann and Barry on their way home to Hawaii.
That means they were someplace else.
The United States of course is negated as if a baby born in Spokane was American, there would be no reason to register the baby twice in Hawaii.
Kenya being in Africa, required all sorts of vaccinations for travelers there. A pregnant woman would not be vaccinated, so this rules out pregnant Ann Dunham.
This by elimination means Canada for Ann to make baby Barry jr. just like Barry sr. a full-fledged British subject of the Queen and future Prime Minister.
As Kenya was still a colony in 1961 and did not open a consular office in Ottawa until 1978, that rules out any registration with Kenya or Ann having a reason to travel by train east into Ottawa as all she desired was in Vancouver, British Columbia.
The British Embassy which would handle all commonwealth information and probably birth registrations passing the information along to Kenya and perhaps a telegram of congratulations to Barack sr. on having junior has a consular in Vancouver.
1111 Melville Street, Suite 800
Vancouver, British Columbia V6E 3V6
Tel: 604 683 4421
Fax: 604 681 0693
Email: vancouver@britainincanada.org
Obviously, those records would be extremely interesting as to the date if it did not match the Hawaii birth certificate in being sent before his birthday that he was born. Location of course would be most interesting too if the telegram was from Vancouver or Ottawa embassy announcing the joyful news.
Nice part about this too is phone records should still be available even in Kenya in the date and location calls came in if a reporter cared to check.
Where there are definite records are in hospitals. Vancouver would attract an out of town 18 year old girl to two.
The first would be the new 1959 constructed Vancouver General Hospital and the Children’s Hospital established in 1947.
And as white girls having black babies in vanilla Canada would be quite noticeable along with a girl telling nurses and perhaps embassy officials, “The daddy is Kenyan and I’m American, but I demand my baby be a British baby”, sort of would stick in the minds of prudish Canadian nurses who probably only saw black people on boxes of Cream of Wheat.
I actually requested a reporter babe to check into this concerning the hospitals in Hawaii weeks ago as I asked her, “Just why is everyone taking a Democratic state’s word, a Democratic employee’s word for a Democratic candidate?”
As noted before, Barack Obama’s sister, Maya, has 2 online registered birth months of August and September. This would point to Ann Dunham having had Maya out of the country, too and in a few weeks hauled her back to Hawaii for a late registration too to be an American.
So this is all the Barack Obama BC birth certificate mess everyone needs to help him out with as he is more qualified with the above birth certificate to be Canadian Prime Minster than the one DailyKos has issued in June 2007 in being an American President.
At least with the above, there is probably a real one in Vancouver to back it up.
Barack Obama, BC, (British Columbia) BCE, (Before Conning Everyone) and AD (Angelic Diety)
He seems to be a man of all history, past, present and future depending on the script.
Post Script: One might note that Dudley Dooright signed Barack’s birth certificate, so we know this one is real too as it is posted online.
agtG end website quote
Also not that HI allowed a BC to be filed up to one year after the child was born in 1961 so it means nothing in regard to WHERE the child was born.
Here is the TRO for Major Cook. (Challenges BO's Eligibility)
If you say so...I’ll take your word on it, out of respect...
But if yer wrong, you’re going to get such a noogie!!!
;-)
Cool, then they can also be brought up on charges of treason and who knows how many other charges. I will laugh and shed tears of joy as they are escorted at gunpoint in shackles to prison. God please let it happen...I know I ask for alot but please for my country.
No judge will set off nation wide, if not world wide, riots by saying Obama is not legally the president. Doesn't matter what the real truth is, that won't happen.
This is wasting time that should be spent fighting other issues. The climate bill sailed through the House, and that is an economy ender.
Do you believe that zero is not? His actions are not? His policy decisions are not?
long time no see, and here we are again on a BC thread. :o)
Having orders revoked only means they are cancelled for the time being. Probably the appropriate thing to do until his case is resolved. The revocation is only temporary. Major Cook is very clear that he is enthusiastic about deploying once Obama can proof his eligibility, so no one can claim Major Cook is using this as a ploy to avoid service.
If he is court martialed for not deploying, he will be entitled to discovery that will include Obama’s long form birth certificate.
He has put Obama, the military and the U.S. District Court in a very difficult position because he is a man of courage.
Its on the AM radio shows here in DFW every morning.
Sorry for late reply. Here: Opponents of Barack Obama’s presidency claim small court victory
LATimes ^ | 9:26 PM | July 13, 2009 | Tami Abdollah in Santa Ana
Posted on July 14, 2009 1:06:12 PM EDT by ckilmer
Supporters of a case that disputes the legitimacy of Barack Obama’s presidency claimed a small victory today when U.S. District Judge David O. Carter told them to fix their paperwork and that he would listen to “the merits” of their case. But others present for the hearing Monday at the federal courthouse in Santa Ana stressed that the case remains a long way from ever getting a full airing in court and may never get to that point. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/07/opponents-of-barack-obamas-presidency-claim-small-court-victory.html
Thanks for the link. I will check it out.
God bless this serviceman.
He will have many enemies as a result of his brave protest.
False! It’s soon going to be declared that Obama is NOT eligible for the Presidency. The thugs in the streets don’t run our nation. And there would not be widespread riots. Liberal political leaders must be warned not to encourage rioting.
You wrote- “No judge will set off nation wide, if not world wide, riots by saying Obama is not legally the president.”
Part of the 8th floor of the Federal District Court in Santa Ana, capital city of Orange County, California is populated by a number of AUSA’s, Assistant US Attorneys, who are the Prosecutors of motions, trials etc., and do their work out of there.
They are always there and their senior supervisor assigns them to cases. Probably the two most senior ones were in Judge Carter's courtroom for this and as you can see were tasked with opposing the default judgment as part of their daily duties.
As needed or depending where a case was developed they might bring some AUSA’s from Los Angeles or even fly them in from Washington D.C.
Some cases, including one in which I participated as part of the court with Judge Carter have components from all over the country and all over the world.
Luckily Judge Carter specializes in Complex Cases and when I was there we had some eight or nine defendants and a dozen lawyers, some who flew in from out of State.
His ordering the AUSA’s to “accept service” is in line with his mindset not to allow purely procedural obstacles prevent an airing of the case and forcing. He is short with tap dancing attorneys on either side but will sit and listen, if need be for half an hour, to allow a valid point to be made.
He does not side more easily (as some judges seem to do) with the government prosecutors though he is extremely even handed, thoughtful and courteous with them. Again never hurrying them.
Because of his refusal to hurry people when they present their view or evidence, his court sessions can be very long. One of mine started at 8 a.m. and ended at 1 a.m. for a 17 HOUR court session.
His started at 6 am and he did not leave till quite a while after we did at 1 am.
Very thoughtful, steady, detailed, highly experienced,respected, meticulous workaholic with strong feelings for fairness and giving people the chance to voice and present their views.
Unless he gets killed or has a weakness that would coerce him into setting aside his strong principles and love for the country, we could not have a better judge for this situation.
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