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To: EDINVA

Pretty good analysis.....
Just thought it was interesting that the Federal Attorneys just happened to be present to be served with the papers, that Orley had tried various methods to achieve.

Why were they there? Had someone invited them? They tried to stand up for Obama...Why would a judge allow that if they had not filed the proper paper work to represent him?...Wouldn’t they be ruled out of order?

So many questions...so few answers.


481 posted on 07/14/2009 1:29:23 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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I don’t mean to be a party-pooper but in case folks missed federal judge David O. Carter’s bio from a Wikipedia link on the first page of this thread, he’s a Marine, yes. But he’s also a Clinton appointee to the federal bench and one of his most well known rulings was to order the allowance of a homosexual student club in Orange County High Schools.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_O._Carter


483 posted on 07/14/2009 1:33:48 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: hoosiermama

“So many questions...so few answers.”

Got that right !

Why were the US attorneys there ? I am going to assume that Dr. Taitz filed a “return of service” that the defendant Obama had been served through the US DOJ. If that is the case, regardless of flaws in service such as may have existed, the US Attorneys would be listed as parties to be noticed until the service issue was resolved. They would be copied on everything filed in the case, and would have received notice to attend the hearing.

I’m tempted to look up the case at PACER and print out the docket sheet and some of the case activity. But what I really want to see is the transcript of yesterday’s hearing. Transcripts are typically not posted in the court’s records, so hopefully Dr. Taitz or some intrepid reporter orders it and puts it online to clarify what actually went on yesterday.


516 posted on 07/14/2009 3:20:18 PM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: hoosiermama; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...
Judge Carter's courtroom is on the 9th floor as are a couple of other judges’ courtrooms.

Part of the 8th floor of the Federal District Court in Santa Ana, capital city of Orange County, California is populated by a number of AUSA’s, Assistant US Attorneys, who are the Prosecutors of motions, trials etc., and do their work out of there.

They are always there and their senior supervisor assigns them to cases. Probably the two most senior ones were in Judge Carter's courtroom for this and as you can see were tasked with opposing the default judgment as part of their daily duties.

As needed or depending where a case was developed they might bring some AUSA’s from Los Angeles or even fly them in from Washington D.C.

Some cases, including one in which I participated as part of the court with Judge Carter have components from all over the country and all over the world.

Luckily Judge Carter specializes in Complex Cases and when I was there we had some eight or nine defendants and a dozen lawyers, some who flew in from out of State.

His ordering the AUSA’s to “accept service” is in line with his mindset not to allow purely procedural obstacles prevent an airing of the case and forcing. He is short with tap dancing attorneys on either side but will sit and listen, if need be for half an hour, to allow a valid point to be made.

He does not side more easily (as some judges seem to do) with the government prosecutors though he is extremely even handed, thoughtful and courteous with them. Again never hurrying them.

Because of his refusal to hurry people when they present their view or evidence, his court sessions can be very long. One of mine started at 8 a.m. and ended at 1 a.m. for a 17 HOUR court session.

His started at 6 am and he did not leave till quite a while after we did at 1 am.

Very thoughtful, steady, detailed, highly experienced,respected, meticulous workaholic with strong feelings for fairness and giving people the chance to voice and present their views.

Unless he gets killed or has a weakness that would coerce him into setting aside his strong principles and love for the country, we could not have a better judge for this situation.

560 posted on 07/14/2009 7:34:22 PM PDT by FARS
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