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To: real_patriotic_american
If they ever do produce a Birth Certificate, that would only prove he was born in the USA.

However, my understanding of the term “Natural Born Citizen” would require that both of Obama’s parents be US Citizens at the time of his birth. We already know his Father wasn't, and his Mother's dual Citizenship issue would make her status suspect as well.

If just being born on US soil was the requirement, every Anchor Baby born one inch inside US Territory would be eligible to be POTUS.

I know we have beat this like a dead horse, but that is how I see it.

25 posted on 07/18/2009 3:18:46 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Hitler used a TelePrompter, we would all be speaking German...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Yes, there are claims that Obama may not a natural born citizen regardless of where he was born since his father was a Kenyan. I believe that he was born in Kenya. Thus, his mother was to young to pass along American citizenship. I have not heard evidence that Obama’s mother was in Hawaii preceding his birth.

If Obama attended Occidental College as a foreign student, that could indicate that he’s not a natural born citizen as well.


35 posted on 07/18/2009 4:16:35 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: Kickass Conservative

The evidence which would substantiate his birth on US soil or elsewhere, exists in his very own hot little hands according to HIS VERY OWN BOOK Dreams From My Father. The DIRECTOR of Health Services of Hawaii, Janice Okubo, said that Hawaii has his BIRTH CERTIFICATE on file in accordance with Hawaii’s rules and procedures. A legitimate and moral president would be MORE than happy to allay his countrymen’s legitimate concerns about the legal basis for his governance and produce ordinary documentation to confirm that legal and constitutional basis, as did Barry Goldwater, George Romney Sr, and John S.McCain.

But I am certain that Hussein ain’t legitimate. He is in fact a lying usurping BASTARD who, were these documents be revealed, expose him for the counterfeit that he is. It is entirely possible that he is an ILLEGAL ALIEN. He attended public school in Indonesia. Indonesian law then only allowed for Indonesian citizens to attend Indonesian public schools. There is strong evidence, in the form of a registration document filed in 1976 at the St Francis Assisi Catholic School in Jakarta, Indonesia, showing one Barry Soetero, Indonesian citizen, religion Muslim as being registered there to attend school. His stepfather Lolo Soetero undoubtedly adopted him and made him an Indonesian citizen so that he might attend school there. There is no evidence that upon being repatriated, that he swore an oath of allegiance before the appropriate State Dept Official to reaffirm his citizenship. Even if he had, he would be naturalized and would forever have lost any natural born status, which he could never have had anyway since his putative father was a Kenyan and British citizen in Hawaii on a sutudent visa. If he didn’t take the oath than he is an illegal alien. All SCOTUS peripheral rulings on citizenship imply 2 US citizen parents born on US soil to qualify as a US natural born citizen, to include John Bingham, an author of the 14th amendment. But there is no mystery as to why HUSSEIN continues to stonewall, the only mystery being why there are so many citizens corrupt enough to obsfucate for this depraved criminal.

Anyone who believes that Hussein is legit HAS to believe that he is willing to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on armies of lawyers to keep his birth on US soil a secret from the American people.

We need his birth certificate in order to establish who his recorded Biological FATHER is and the location of his birth. We can’t take his word for it. He is a proven inveterate liar, who produces lies in litters like some sort of prevaricating political sow. Mr. constitutional law professor may have been trying to create a romantic myth of an African father while hoping that the public would disregard the “anachronistic” Article II, Sec. 1 clause 5 of the constitution and allow him to succeed in his coup and usurpation of the presidency.


89 posted on 07/19/2009 7:18:34 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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