[Erik Latranyi]

I don’t buy this argument. He is his mother’s son. She is a US citizen.

This is why the birthers give conservatism a bad name....by clear omissions of facts that do not help their cause.

[real_patriotic_american]

Note that Obama is using attorneys and nearly a million dollars in legal fees to keep his original birth certificate hidden. Speaks for itself. When someone is hiding something, they have something to hide.

[so_real]

So ... following that logic ... Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad could legally

 1) visit a U.S state,
 2) hook up with an American girl (underage even),
 3) father a child (marriage optional),
 4) take the child back to Iran during its formative years for indoctrination,
 5) re-introduce the child to the United States at a later date,
 6) wait for the child to reach 35 years of age,
 7) use the financial resources of Iran to market this child for POTUS,
 8) thereby usurping the highest seat in this nation for his own purpose.

Nice. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Vladimir Putin is kicking himself for not thinking of it first.

Of course, this is quite similar to what the Founders feared Britain would do in retaliation for the Revolutionary War in order to return the States to British rule. That *is* why the "natural born" requirement was written into the Constitution, after all. Surprisingly, it draws an eerie parallel to Mr. Obama's circumstance today as well.

It seems many of us are so overwhelmed by legal prose, spin, and word redefinition that we can't even see the dangers from which our Founders were trying to save the inheritors of their nation. Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it.

I'm a birther -- I believe I'm good for "Conservatism". If the Founders weren't birthers, after all, your coinage would likely have the heads of British Royalty on it today.

[john mirse]

Father's Race: "African" is on Obama's short form birth certificate that I see on the internet. Shouldn't it be "Negro"?

In 1961, I believe that the RACE classification of black parents was "Negro" and not "African".

1. Obama, I want to see your 1961 long form birth certificate because I want to verify that the term "African" for the RACE of your father listed on your short form birth certificate---the one we see on the internet---is also the term used to classify the RACE of your father on your 1961 long form birth certificate.

2. Obama, if the RACE classification of your father on your 1961 long form birth certificate is different from the "African" RACE classification of your father on your short form birth certificate that you openly displayed on your official fight the smears site during the 2008 presidential campaign, then I say that you and Hawaii officials have a lot of explaining to do.

3. Dear Hawaii officials, including the Republican Governor: Is Obama's 1961 long form birth certificate the only time in Hawaii birth certificate history when a black parent was classified as "African" as opposed to the more commonly used term in the rest of the United States of America of "Negro"?

4. That is, can you cite another instance in Hawaii birth certificate history between 1961-1971 when a black parent's RACE classification was listed as "African" as a substitute for the more commonly used term in the rest of The United States of America of "Negro"?

5. Dear Hawaii officials, especially the Republican Governor: If you can't cite a single instance in Hawaii birth certificate history when the term "African" was substituted for the more commonly used term "Negro" to classify black parents in 1961, then I say that you have a lot of serious explaining to do as to why and how the term "African" happens to appear on Obama's short form birth certificate, the one Hawaii officials have publicly claimed is "authentic", and the one Obama displayed on the internet during the 2008 presidential campaign.