Posted on 07/27/2009 2:55:53 PM PDT by bt_dooftlook
The Republicans still seem to have a hard time summarizing what the Democrats are attempting to do in a pithy punchy way; I thought maybe they could use some help, and look for your best, most creative suggestions.
"What the Democrats are proposing to do with ObamaCare is to restrict access to needed medical attention for our senior citizens while making abortion a mandatory, subsidized part of every plan. The practical effect is to kill our oldest and youngest citizens, while increasing the debt borne by the survivors to untenable levels - is this what you voted for, America?"
In re Cap'n' Trade:
The Democrats' Cap 'n' Trade program is not a tax on business, because businesses will pass on the cost to you, or fail, eliminating your job. It is a tax on everything you and your family enjoy, including food, travel, heating, cooling, shelter, etc., because Democrats think they can make better decisions for you and your family than you can. And the proceeds from this extravagant and unaffordable tax will go to subsidize things they don't want you to know about, including sending billions of your dollars to Russia. All because of increasingly dubious claims of "global warming". Are you willing to sacrifice your happiness and freedom today, America, for something that is unlikely to happen a century from now?"
How about they just grow a set of nads like Sarah Palins and just start fighting back?
Obama is like the guy you paid to fix your leaky roof. Six months later the roof is leaking worse than when he started.
And what is his response?
He now wants money to remodel your basement.
Talking points are meaningless.
Right before the GOP convention the GOP laid out their platform in clear language and then proceded to nominate someone who opposed much of it.
I think Sarah will manage just fine thank you.
During the 1980 presidential campaign, Ronald Reagan dubbed the fledgling Department of Education “President Carter’s new bureaucratic boondoggle.”
We should return education to the states.
Republicans should have their own plan and talk about it:
“In 2010, Republicans will gain seats, only if they campaign together, similarly to the contract with America. They
should promise that, if Republicans regain control of both houses of Congress, they’ll pass about five bills, including cutting tax rates to the 1988 rates, repealing all laws that violate the 10th Amendment, and immigration reform that would triple the fines for employers who hire illegal aliens. The money, from those fines, would be used to build a brick wall, along the Mexican border.”
47 posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:12:04 AM by PhilCollins
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2293213/posts?page=47#47
Sorry Phil,
The (illegal) immmigration issue is one of the reasons Republicans do so poorly.
The last 2 weeks I’ve been knocking on doors in the precinct adjacent to that where Oberweiss is committeeman. Clearly the anti (illegal) posturing of Oberweiss hurt him in this upper middle clas precinct, as it did in the precinct where I live, and as it did with most everyone I’ve talked to in the 14th district.
Oberweiss claimed to be Capitalist and Pro-Family. Then he took an immigration position that was anti-Capitalist and anti-Family. The hypocrisy alone hurt him, even with those who might otherwise agree with him on one side or the other of the forked tongue position.
The federal government telling private employers who they can and cannot employ is not capitalism.
Deporting the family wage earner and throwing his American Citizen kids on welfare is not pro-Family.
1. They need to use this mess as a 'teachable moment.' This is the time to explain the differences between a robust Constitutional Republic economy, and a sluggish Marxist State economy. As they say... those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Where we are today, we have been before... in the Carter years and the FDR years, so it is very obvious that we are not learning from history Each time we go through this, Americans make a correction of course and head toward the Conservative low taxes, small government, Constitutional Republic goverment policies that create jobs and a booming economy.... but we are not learning from these experiences and once we have expendible income again, and life gets good, here will come along another Bill Clinton selling us that same old bag of Marxist utopianism that gets us in trouble, and the young voters in particular will gobble it up.
We need to educate this time. We need to drive this point home. We need to continue educating and reminding people of how these economic failures happened, and keep educating with a sustained effort so future generations will not be doomed to forget it.
2. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The BIGGEST political barn burner imaginable but RNC FAILED to use this issue to its best advantage. Recent Rasmussen poll shows 54% of Americans still blame Pres. Bush for the economic downturn even though it was the Democrats who blocked reform of FMx2 in 2004 (CSPAN TAPES ARE DAMNING-SEE VIDS ON YOUTUBE.) which led to a housing collapse followed by a financial institution collapse.
If 54% STILL think it was Bush's fault... this MUST be corrected ASAP! And this is EASY... the case is EASILY made. Not only did the Democrats block reform after dozens of warnings from President Bush, they were particularly mean to the Regulator called before congress. One of them race baited and the cussed him out (Gregory, NY) and all of that is on CSPAN video. Maxine's defense of Frank Raines is particularly damning because Raines was forced to resign a short time later for fraud. And Raines is a top advisor of Obama today!
Hows that for starters?
Number Two: For as long as Zer0 is in the White House, think NO, say NO and VOTE NO on EVERY bill that comes up for a vote.
Number Three: Quit treating your consituents like a bunch of addled house-bound dimwits. Stick up for them! Vote like they want you to vote, NOT how you think the MSM will like you.
Number Four: Be prepared to be ousted on your ass if you don't follow One through Three.
Then you’d better learn Spanish and keep a pocket full of bribe money.
You are correct, for exactly the opposite reason you give. Bush/Rove/McCain demands for amnesty and open borders are exactly what caused the Republican party to lose support. McCain actually got 3 million FEWER votes than George Bush, who had he campaigned on amnesty in 2004 would have lost.
Your support for amnesty and open borders just to have cheap ILLEGAL labor is a suicide pact for the Republican party. Every poll taken on the issue shows that American oppose amnesty and open borders by 75% or more.
"Deporting the family wage earner and throwing his American Citizen kids on welfare is not pro-Family."
Well, hiring that ILLEGAL "family wage earner" is putting Americans in the unemployment line, requiring citizens to pay more in taxes, and ruining the quality of life of Americans in neighborhoods where the illegals set up residence.
It is a provable, if unreported, fact that the start of the current economic meltdown was in the foreclosed homes of illegal aliens given no doc, no downpayment loans they could never repay which triggered the subprime meltdown and the collapse of the collateralized derivatives.
Your amnesty, open border views are out of the mainstream, but unfortunately accepted by the ruling Republican elites. Continuing defeats like McCain's is the price for your naivete>
First, I think you and I agree that immigration policy should be based on principle and not political expediency. That said...
Where do you get your information that McCain was hurt by his immigration policy? I’ve knocked on every door in 20+ IL precincts, and every R door in 10+ more, mostly Chicago burbs but also DeKalb, Bloomington, Normal, IL. I base my information on firsthand conversations with these thousands of IL voters. My knowledge of other states is what I read, of course.
I know many Republicans who refused to vote for McCain. But they always list McCain’s many other flaws as the reason. Currently Mark Kirk is running for US Senate with the same immigration position as McCain. Conservatives are vocally against him for being pro-abortion, pro-gun control, pro-gay favoritism, pro-tax increase, pro-Cap-n-Trade. I have yet to see a single attack on Kirk for being pro-illegal. It is not the deciding issue for those who are anti-illegal.
On the other hand, it is a deciding issue for those who are pro-family, pro-capitalist, pro-illegal (my term, not theirs). They work beside illegals; they worship beside illegals; they live beside (or with) illegals.
I can say factually that I know how pro-illegal Froehlich won first as a Republican, then as a Democrat on his being pro-illegal when both the Republican and Democrat organizations were united against him in his races. (A different matter not relevant to immgration might bring him down.) I know the voters. I’ve knocked on their doors.
I can say factually that Oberweiss lost for Gov and then for Congress because he had the pro-illegal / mean spirited image. I knocked on doors for his opponent in the GOP primary and then for him in the final, and on manyt doors since his defeat. I listen firsthand to what the voters are saying.
I can say factually that when the far right wing pro-capitalist, pro-family, pro-illegal slate of Rod Craig won and their pro-illegal position helped, not hurt them. 83% of the vote in 9 precincts of Hanover Park in Cook County went for that slate over the united opposition of the Dems and RINOs. The deciding issues were transparency/good government, low taxes/spending restraint, support of wise spending by a local school district, and opposition to the taj mahal the other side wanted to build. But their pro-illegal position sure helped and did not hurt.
In Illinois, the only evidence the other way is in Carpentersville where the Democrats cynically took a pro-illegal position for political expediency.
I knocked on Hard R doors for Minuteman leader Pulido for Congress. When I pitched her pro-selfdefense, pro-life, low-tax, anti-corruption positions it motivated more people to vote than if I had pushed her anti-illegal position, which was all too well known and difficult to overcome with the knowledgeable Republicans.
In Red Utah an incumbent R congressman was way behind in the polls due to his corruption. Then his challenger switched from the corruption issue to taking an anti-illegal position. The challenger snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. The polling before and after the GOP primary confirmed the challenger lost based on his coming out anti-illegal.
Only in a special election in CA for congress did the Dem self-destruct by doing something even more stupid than the Republican and allow an anti-illegal Republican to win on the immigration issue.
I’m not saying others are as pro-illegal as I am. There are 6 distinct categories of Republicans who are pro-illegal and who often disagree on the reasons. But of those 6 pro-illegal groups of Republicans, the group that is by far the largest with the largest number of votes are the PTA MOMS (including metro-sexuals).
Above all else, they want to be NICE; and not MEAN SPIRITED. These PTA MOMS were the swing vote and deciding vote in both Froehlich races, as a R and then as a D, and the deciding vote in the last few Oberweiss races.
I agree with everything you said. About a week ago, on facebook, one of my friends said something like, “The U.S. unemployment rate is almost 10%, and at least 3 million illegal aliens work, in the U.S. For every illegal alien who has a job, there is an American who can’t find a job.”
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