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Organic food not nutritionally better than conventionally-produced food
London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine ^ | Jul 29, 2009 | Unknown

Posted on 07/29/2009 7:16:23 AM PDT by decimon

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To: eclecticEel

>> The only purpose is to convince people to pay higher prices for their fruits and vegetables by having them grown inefficiently.

Well, yeah, but insects need to eat, too. I bet you’re one of those uncaring conservatives, aren’t you.

Besides, I saw a whole Martha Stewart show on “organic food presentation”. It’s fascinating how that woman can make “veggie art” out of insect damage scars and caterpillar leaf cuttings!

(I’m lyin’ about the Martha thing of course... so far, anyway.)


21 posted on 07/29/2009 8:48:27 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: decimon

I’ll have mine raised with chemical fertilizer that has been determined after soil analysis for the desired crop not by guesswork with cow shit.


22 posted on 07/29/2009 8:48:53 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

My wife buys organic food at Whole Paychecks (I sample the free food there too and make a point of wearing my Imagine No Liberals tee shirt everytime I go in there) and quite frankly I don’t notice much of difference between the food she buys and the food I buy at Food For Less.


23 posted on 07/29/2009 8:50:00 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: All
Dr. Bruce Ames is credited/blamed for initiating the movement against man-made pesticides as harmful. Further research led him to recant.
24 posted on 07/29/2009 8:51:31 AM PDT by decimon
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To: dalereed

Forgot the pesticides, I had all the buggy garbage I ever want when I was a kid before DDT and other modern pesticides.

Bring back DDT, I love to breath it!


25 posted on 07/29/2009 8:52:05 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed
I’ll have mine raised with chemical fertilizer that has been determined after soil analysis for the desired crop not by guesswork with cow shit.

Aren't you the guy who'd rather have a V-8? ;-)

26 posted on 07/29/2009 8:53:27 AM PDT by decimon
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To: Nervous Tick
You should change your tagline to "Stop dissing consumers of organics. At least they spend their OWN money." :~)

I don't understand the obsession of some people who criticize others who choose to eat differently from them. What difference on God's green earth does it make to you where others choose to spend their money and what they choose to eat?? Last time I checked, the US is still a free country with the right to pursue your own idea of life and happiness.

27 posted on 07/29/2009 8:54:00 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (There is a demand today for men who can make wrong appear right. Terrence, c. 160 B.C.)
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To: Welcome2thejungle

Try eating organic exclusively for a couple weeks. You will notice the difference. It’s not something that’s apparent when you only nibble here and there! :~)


28 posted on 07/29/2009 8:56:35 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (There is a demand today for men who can make wrong appear right. Terrence, c. 160 B.C.)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

OK, if you pay for it.


29 posted on 07/29/2009 8:57:42 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Nervous Tick

wrong.


30 posted on 07/29/2009 8:57:44 AM PDT by ken21 (i am not voting for a rino-progressive.)
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To: Welcome2thejungle

LOL :~)


31 posted on 07/29/2009 9:01:03 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (There is a demand today for men who can make wrong appear right. Terrence, c. 160 B.C.)
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To: decimon

“Aren’t you the guy who’d rather have a V-8? ;-) “

Yes, as long as it’s over 300 horsepower!


32 posted on 07/29/2009 9:01:16 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

>> I don’t understand the obsession of some people who criticize others who choose to eat differently from them.

Look back at your earlier post: “Look for all the “all food is organic matter” kooks to come out on this thread, John123”

So, you can dish it out, but not spoon it in, eh?

It’s ok for YOU to make snide cracks about “kooks” who disagree with you, but when YOUR widdle feewings are hurt you get all kinds of pissed off. Typical one-way liberal butthead attitude.

Look, throw your money away on what you want. I seriously don’t care. I eat organic food, too. I won’t go out of my way to do so, however, nor will I overpay for it.


33 posted on 07/29/2009 9:01:37 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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>> wrong.

Your counter-argument is positively brilliant. NOW I see the error in my thinking.

Not.


34 posted on 07/29/2009 9:03:25 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Nervous Tick
I'm not "pissed off" as you put it so eloquently.

My point is, that posters come to these threads not only to argue about the science behind whether organics are beneficial or not but some come specifically to demean and insult people who choose to eat organic. I don't mind people who argue their side but I have a problem with people who like to throw the insults in as well. I used the word "kooks" because that is what they have labeled us on other threads. It was their word, not mine.

35 posted on 07/29/2009 9:12:58 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (There is a demand today for men who can make wrong appear right. Terrence, c. 160 B.C.)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

Also:

I wasn’t dissing the poster to whom I was responding (which by the way wasn’t you) for what they eat.

I was refuting his preposterous claim that people who eat “corporate” food get sick and die, whereas people who eat organic food don’t.

I can’t help but notice that you didn’t even bother to address the *content* of my post, choosing instead to just take a snotty little swipe at some generalized idea you had in your head.

What’s up with that? Chip on the shoulder or something?


36 posted on 07/29/2009 9:13:07 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

>> come specifically to demean and insult people who choose to eat organic.

This is an opinion forum, and organic food is a controversial topic. Stiffen up. Opposing viewpoints will fly. Join the “better homes and gardens organic food forum” if you can’t take the heat.

>> I used the word “kooks” because that is what they have labeled us on other threads. It was their word, not mine.

Oh, how convenient. But, no: it doesn’t matter where you heard the word before — if you use it to label others and put your name after it, it’s YOURS. To insist otherwise is lame.


37 posted on 07/29/2009 9:18:23 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett
All plants use nitrogen to grow. There is no difference if that form of plant food comes from time released nitrogen nodules (man-made) or from manure. (cow-shit & straw)

The end result is the same. Except that the plant does much better, longer, on the man-made stuff because the time release nodules distribute the plant nutrition more evenly over a longer period. The plant will only use what it needs.

Nitrogen is nitrogen. PERIOD. It is not “man-made”. It is merely a stigma that somehow, because technology has developed a better method for producing more food for more people on less ground, that it is somehow “unnatural” and evil and therefore is BAD for humans to eat it.

If this were the case, then why has the average age of people increased from 35 to over 80 since modern agricultural methods were developed? And, why do countries who still use those old methods still suffer a very short life from all sorts of diseases or starvation?

As far as eating potatoes claimed to be “organic” and those by regular means, that supposedly have less taste, I will gladly bet you the title to my home that I can grow a potato that will not only be twice the size of your Kosher organic, but will win an award at any contest for taste. And I use those deadly triple 19 commercial fertilizers and have for over 30 years.

The organically grown division of those contests have to have their own category because it would not be fair. they would not even make it past the contest elimination phase.

38 posted on 07/29/2009 9:24:25 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Give me LIBERTY or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: Nervous Tick

In reading over your forum posts, you are the one who seems to have a “chip on your shoulder”, Nervous Tick. Your posts are generally “in your face” type. I came on this thread to discuss the topic with like-minded posters, not to trade insults with you. Therefore, we have nothing to discuss ~ discretion being the better part of valor. Try to have a pleasant day. :~)


39 posted on 07/29/2009 9:24:49 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (There is a demand today for men who can make wrong appear right. Terrence, c. 160 B.C.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
"I can grow a potato that will not only be twice the size of your Kosher organic, but will win an award at any contest for taste."

Send it on over!! I'm game for sampling it! :~)

40 posted on 07/29/2009 9:26:59 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (There is a demand today for men who can make wrong appear right. Terrence, c. 160 B.C.)
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